I voted "yes" for wine in grocery stores...[views:15528][posts:104]_________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 7:19am - sinistas ""] Swerving through the street Drunk as fuck Searching for a open store I think I'm out of luck Maybe I'll find a mad mother on patrol Hit her car Smash it up Pull her out Beat her up Take her money Run her down Can't find any beer It's way past two There's just one thing we can do Hit her car Smash it up Pull her out Beat her up Take her money Run her down Drive her face out of town Drunk drivers against mad mothers |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 7:45am - DestroyYouAlot ""] The guy at the liquor store last night was ranting about "No on 1" like it was the end of the world. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 7:54am - CaptainCleanoff ""] They are afraid of the competition. I see signs for no on 1 all over the packys down here. It is just wine, what is the big deal? |
| ____________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:10am - pam ""] I'm voting yes. Fuck them. People cook with wine, they serve it at dinner, get over it. |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:13am - i_am_not_logged_in ""] Wine's just the first step. The law can easily be changed, all they have to do is tack on "and beer" if they feel like it. And people drink wine to get drunk too. A lot of younger people come in trying to buy random sorts of white zinfandel. |
| ____________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:14am - pam ""] Yeah and they'll still get carded...like everywhere else. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:19am - xmikex ""] It's important because independently owned packies, and convenient stores depend on that sole advantage over blockbuster stores like Stop & Shop and Walmart (the one and only time I'd ever put the two of them in the same sentence) to stay in business. A yes vote on #1 would be one step closer to Walmart controlling the world. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:26am - CaptainCleanoff ""] On the other hand, if the kids have friends that work in grocery stores they can go to them and not get carded. haha. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:35am - xmikex ""] CaptainCleanoff said:On the other hand, if the kids have friends that work in grocery stores they can go to them and not get carded. haha. haha. a VERY mature way to look at it. What kind of a 17 year old kid thinks scamming a bottle of Aste Spumante is cool? |
| _________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:46am - sinistas ""] "yo dawg, get me a bottle of shiraz" |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:46am - largefreakatzero ""] We have wine AND beer at grocery stores, gas stations, you name it. Oh the convenience. |
| ____________________________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:53am - jim is to lazy to get his password ""] xmikex said:It's important because independently owned packies, and convenient stores depend on that sole advantage over blockbuster stores like Stop & Shop and Walmart (the one and only time I'd ever put the two of them in the same sentence) to stay in business. A yes vote on #1 would be one step closer to Walmart controlling the world. thats so true. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 8:55am - CaptainCleanoff ""] xmikex said:CaptainCleanoff said:On the other hand, if the kids have friends that work in grocery stores they can go to them and not get carded. haha. haha. a VERY mature way to look at it. What kind of a 17 year old kid thinks scamming a bottle of Aste Spumante is cool? What can I say, I'm old. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 9:06am - HeavensJail ""] When I lived in Maine, you could buy beer and wine at the grocery store. The drunk driving problem wasn't any worse, and smaller liquor stores continued to survive. When I lived in Michigan, you could buy beer and wine and liquor at the grocery store. The drunk driving problem wasn't any worse, and the smaller operators were doing a-okay. When I lived in Germany, it was almost impossible to find somewhere that didn't sell beer and liquor. Drunk driving was practically nonexistent (probably due to enforcement and better public transit), and the small operators continued to do well (probably because all the grocery stores closed at 8 PM). When I was in China, it was possible to buy beer from vending machines. This was officially Totally Awesome. I'm not a fan of incrementalism, so I voted no on #1. Seriously, we just need to throw out the rotting corpse of the Blue Laws and start the hell over. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 9:44am - paganmegan ""] They have beer in vending machines in Germany as well |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 9:50am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Japan had it, but had to get rid of it (from what I've heard). |
| __________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 10:20am - DeRtOxIa ""] do we have any Drive-Thru liquor stores up here like down in virginia? |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 10:22am - the_reverend ""] way to try and be NH asshats. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 10:25am - DestroyYouAlot ""] the_reverend said:way to try and be NH asshats. Next we're going door to door hitting toddlers in the temple with a ballpeen hammer to simulate the genepool up there. Hey-ohh!!! |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 10:30am - Josh_hates_you ""] odd. they sell beer and wine at all the supermarkets and convienience stores around here just no liquor. and they sell liquor till 5 pm on sundays. Fuck NH and their state run liquor stores. As far as kids getting beer or wine cheaper at the supermarkets, it wont happen. At these places the under 21 employees are not even allowed to touch the beer to scan it on the register they need to call an over 21 sales person to swipe it. Then you have to put it in your own cart cause the stupid bagboy is not 21. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 10:30am - BornSoVile ""] As much as I want to vote for this I don't want to, in favor of the little guy. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 7,2006 10:33am - Yeti ""] xmikex said:It's important because independently owned packies, and convenient stores depend on that sole advantage over blockbuster stores like Stop & Shop and Walmart (the one and only time I'd ever put the two of them in the same sentence) to stay in business. A yes vote on #1 would be one step closer to Walmart controlling the world. you're right. the "mom and pop" stores are dwindling out, and its unfortunate. like local corner hardware stores are shutting down due to Lowes and Home Depot on every corner. i am in favor of the little guy. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 10:34am - the_reverend ""] Josh_hates_you said:Fuck NH and their state run liquor stores. yeah, fuck anything that makes liquor cheap as shit. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:02am - anonymous ""] I voted no. Do we really need more drunken drivers out on the streets killing people. If you wanna drink and get WASTED go for it. And if you wanna drive after, then you should just go right ahead and drive your car into a tree instead of killing innocent people!! Alcohol is sold in liquor stores and FOOD is sold in grocery stores. Alcohol has no nutrional value to it. Its sad when some people think it IS food :spineyes: |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:05am - Josh_hates_you ""] Those state run liquor stores are no cheaper than regular package stores. The reason I hate them is that there are not enough of them. I always have to go out of my way to find one. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:06am - sinistas ""] Soda is sold in grocery stores, but you don't eat that, do you? Are you fucking retarded? |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:07am - Cecchini @ UML ""] the problem is that MA has been set up like it has been currently for DECADES so a large amount of packies have been created to compensate for that. now the super markets want to cut into their market and that unfairly puts a lot of people in MA in an unfair position where they could lose their stores/jobs when they most certainly don't need to. the grocery stores don't need whine sales to turn the huge profits they turn, the independent packies do. look at what putting pharmacies in targets, walgreens, cvs and so on did to independent pharmacies, they are all but extinct now thanks to big business going after a market it doesn't need to survive and does more harm than good. what if next year the super markets proposed to sell gas at super markets, dont you think then all the gas stations would be in an uproar? this isnt a state like NH where for years and years its been legal for grocery stores to sell whine/booze, so MA has a large amount of packies to compensate and grocery stores are setting out to drastically tip those scales without any good cause. seriously, what unfair competition are they talking about? stop and shop sells food, a packie sells whine... stop and shop has to compete with market basket not local jims booze store down the street. thats like blockbuster going after a gas station. its greedy big business plain and simple. |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:07am - FuckIsMySignature ""] anonymous said:I voted no. Do we really need more drunken drivers out on the streets killing people. If you wanna drink and get WASTED go for it. And if you wanna drive after, then you should just go right ahead and drive your car into a tree instead of killing innocent people!! Alcohol is sold in liquor stores and FOOD is sold in grocery stores. Alcohol has no nutrional value to it. Its sad when some people think it IS food :spineyes: Liquid lunch for me :duffbeer: |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:08am - Cecchini @ UML ""] the problem is that MA has been set up like it has been currently for DECADES so a large amount of packies have been created to compensate for that. now the super markets want to cut into their market and that unfairly puts a lot of people in MA in an unfair position where they could lose their stores/jobs when they most certainly don't need to. the grocery stores don't need whine sales to turn the huge profits they turn, the independent packies do. look at what putting pharmacies in targets, walgreens, cvs and so on did to independent pharmacies, they are all but extinct now thanks to big business going after a market it doesn't need to survive and does more harm than good. what if next year the super markets proposed to sell gas at super markets, dont you think then all the gas stations would be in an uproar? this isnt a state like NH where for years and years its been legal for grocery stores to sell whine/booze, so MA has a large amount of packies to compensate and grocery stores are setting out to drastically tip those scales without any good cause. seriously, what unfair competition are they talking about? stop and shop sells food, a packie sells whine... stop and shop has to compete with market basket not local jims booze store down the street. thats like blockbuster going after a gas station. its greedy big business plain and simple. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:08am - Cecchini @ UML ""] double post! eat it bitchesssssss! |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:08am - the_reverend ""] josh, you must have no clue. I have 2 or 3 of them with in walking distance. on is a few parking spaces away. NH consistantly has like cheapest alcohol prices in the country and the second highest alcohol sales in the country per capita. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:12am - skullfucked nli ""] who said anything about nutritional value? its ignorant to think the sale of alcohol in grocery stores is going to increase drunk driving. hi. california sells bottles of schlitz at 7-11 and nobody's calling it the death/wastoid capital of the US. this is about independent stores getting shafted. DUUUUUHHHHH F00D IS $0Ld @ TEH F00D $TOR3. good argument. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:12am - Josh_hates_you ""] the_reverend said:josh, you must have no clue. you're just figuring this out now? |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:14am - the_reverend ""] ahahaha! since your last departing, you are much more reserved than you used to be. makes less hilarious posts, but probably makes your life less complex. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:15am - xmikex ""] anonymous said:I voted no. Do we really need more drunken drivers out on the streets killing people. If you wanna drink and get WASTED go for it. And if you wanna drive after, then you should just go right ahead and drive your car into a tree instead of killing innocent people!! Alcohol is sold in liquor stores and FOOD is sold in grocery stores. Alcohol has no nutrional value to it. Its sad when some people think it IS food :spineyes: I'm voting no. BUT I think the drunk driving argument is kind of a dumb one, so much so that I think it's going to push some people to vote yes out of spite. There is hardly a shortage of wine in Massachusetts. Anyone who could buy it under this new law could already buy it now. Increased availibility isn't going to lead to an increase of drunk driving unless you start pumping wine through people's kitchen sinks and water bubblers. The intelligent reason to oppose this is the crippling effect it could have on small buisnesses. Ironically enough if this passed plenty of liquor stores would close eventually, which (I'd have to assume) would lead to a DECREASED availibility of alcohol. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:43am - Josh_hates_you ""] Yeah I'm growing up into a conservative dork. You're a smart guy aaron. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 7,2006 11:44am - Jim_ ""] Fuck this whole shit, we need to bring back prohibition. |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 12:02pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] I'll get you beer baron! |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 12:08pm - xanonymousxx ""] Jim_ said:Fuck this whole shit, we need to bring back prohibition. nahh dude vote yes for wine in grocery stores |
| __________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 12:15pm - Niccolai ""] I vote no. all booze should be illegal. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 12:49pm - xanonymousxx ""] actually if you really want wine just go up to new hamphire or make the trip to the package store down the street... but it really doesn't matter not like people under 21 will be buying it... if they want it they will get it |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 12:53pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] anonymous said:I voted no. Do we really need more drunken drivers out on the streets killing people. If you wanna drink and get WASTED go for it. And if you wanna drive after, then you should just go right ahead and drive your car into a tree instead of killing innocent people!! Alcohol is sold in liquor stores and FOOD is sold in grocery stores. Alcohol has no nutrional value to it. Its sad when some people think it IS food :spineyes: it's good that you voted no, but for the wrong reasons, as some already stated. i am a small business owner, so obviously no is my vote. and also, there actually is nutritional value in some alcoholic products. the problem is that in general, the US gluttonizes everything. if you go almost anywhere in europe, you can find young adults hardly legal at all, even younger children, with a glass of wine at a meal. not because they want to get wasted, just because there are less sulfides in their wine and therefore doesn't really get anyone drunk unless you drink a whole shitload. a glass of wine a day in most places in europe is kind of like the whole "an apple a day will keep the doctor away" saying in the US. since wine, beer and liquors are a large part of many european cultures, they are used to not having it excess (most of the time). obviously there will always be exceptions to the rule. some nutritional value can still be found in alcoholic beverages here in the US, but needs to be taken in with much more moderation. it would be wonderful if that sort of culture was present here in the US, but if we ever made any attempt, there would probably be a heap of trouble coming our way for years, but probably would even out eventually. still not a good idea |
| __________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 12:57pm - Niccolai ""] Jim_ said:Fuck this whole shit, we need to bring back prohibition. Backed. |
| ____________________________ [Nov 7,2006 2:13pm - pam ""] As long as there is a demand for liquor...liquor stores will be just fine. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 2:15pm - dreadkill ""] i vote no on question pam. no pams allowed in grocery stores. |
| ____________________________ [Nov 7,2006 2:24pm - pam ""] I'm OK with that. I hate grocery stores. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 2:33pm - dreadkill ""] i did it for your benefit only. for some reason when i typed benefit, it came out as beefit, so i changed it. |
| ____________________________ [Nov 7,2006 2:35pm - pam ""] It can be for my beefit, too. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 2:36pm - dreadkill ""] your beefit is the greatest beefit ever |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 7,2006 2:42pm - largefreakatzero ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:>> and also, there actually is nutritional value in some alcoholic products. >> Yessir -- Guinness for strength! |