People not coming out for relevant metal shows?[views:11518][posts:108]__________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:24pm - dreadkill ""] our drummer always talks about how much better it is for bands up here than it was in louisville. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:28pm - arilliusbm ""] Well, lemme just say I wholeheartedly agree with everything you guys said. There really isn't much one can do to change it. It takes more than one person. In my mind (which I'm sure most will disagree) there hasn't been a decent "metal" venue in quite some time. The past 4 years we've seen the Bombshelter and Mark's go down. I wasn't huge on either one. The Palladium has and will always be there. I personally love the MiddleEast, I wish it was easier to book there (is it easy to book there? Probably not - too many genres, too much demand). If you take a look at good "scenes" in American metal, the first that come to mind are the Bay Area Thrash scene and the Flordia Death Metal scene. What made those areas flourish? Was is the bands? (of course) Was it the venues? Was it the fans or the crowds? Things happen in cycles, all-throughout history. I am hoping New England catches that wave sometime and things pick up.. because honestly I think it's lacking something here, I'm not sure what. We've got good bands here.. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:30pm - RustyPS ""] I think the only way you can affect what goes on in the local scene (and I know this sounds cliche, especially coming from a band member) is to support any local bands you like. I'm not just talking about going to their shows and buy their merch, but spreading the word. Word of mouth is an underrated, but very powerful tool in getting people to do things. I know from experience getting people to commit to going to local shows is like pulling teeth most of the time. That's why if people can show some support to any local band helps perpetuate more and more kids coming out to "relevant" shows. That could be a way to start the ball rolling where the status quo sees a shift to a healthier scene. I'm not saying any of you don't do that, because I don't know most of you, but it doing stuff like flyering for a show that you had no hand in booking or whatever, but you just like the lineup could be a HUGE help. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:31pm - narkybark ""] Here's hoping the House of Blues fills in a very needed niche! They're off to a good start... |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:32pm - ouchdrummer ""] i like to help... i like to talk too. (no shit right?) So if ya'll want help flyering in Boston, hit me up. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:33pm - RustyPS ""] ...and I'm not saying everyone should do that, because I know people have more important things in their lives than flyering for a show they had no hand in (trust me, sometimes I barely have time to sleep it seems), but if you have some free time on your hands, that could be extremely helpful in getting things turned around. |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:34pm - ouchdrummer ""] like i said: I CAN HELP, I LIKES HELP, I LIKES TALKING, I LIKES PEOPLES! |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:36pm - arilliusbm ""] I think there are a lot of "rouge" metalheads here that don't know anything about the local metal scene. I've met quite a few people in my area that listen to metal and know NOTHING of bands in Boston. I mean, I'm more musically involved in the local blackmetal aspect of things and I've had people tell me they had no idea there were local BM bands. Perhaps one of the keys of this would be to put flyers up at local college campuses? |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:37pm - quintessence ""] It could always be much better here in New England. But talking to my friends from other parts of the country.... We have quite a good scene. Lots of options, lots of shows. I have friends who would kill to get the stuff we do. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:37pm - dreadkill ""] one of the big problems i see is the wrong people in charge of venues and booking. there aren't many people who do it right. if you look at guys like chris from metal thursday and rich horror, they flourish because they know how to put a good show together, from booking a lineup of bands that make sense together to properly promoting the shows. we don't have enough of that around here. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:37pm - RustyPS ""] well, I wasn't necessarily referring to us specifically, but any help would be beyond appreciated....and of course, yo0u scratch our backs, we'll scratch yours |
| _____________________________ [May 5,2009 1:38pm - Yeti ""] RustyPS said:I know from experience getting people to commit to going to local shows is like pulling teeth most of the time. you hit the nail on the head right here. once upon a time there weren't 10000 things to occupy everyone's time, like maintaining their celebrity status on myspace, and people were in it for the whole instead of the individual. when people went to a show they went nuts for EVERY band, not just the one they went to see, and didn't leave the second their band was done. i know its hard sometimes to stay late, but if you can, then do it. i've been trying to go to more shows in Worcester and watching all of the bands, just so they feel like people care. it wasn't a big dick measuring contest at every show about who is more metal than who, people united for a single cause. ego has always been prevalent, but not to the magnitude it is today. there are a million factors that have led to the downfall, chiseling away one at a time will do nothing but help. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:39pm - RustyPS ""] dreadkill said:one of the big problems i see is the wrong people in charge of venues and booking. there aren't many people who do it right. if you look at guys like chris from metal thursday and rich horror, they flourish because they know how to put a good show together, from booking a lineup of bands that make sense together to properly promoting the shows. we don't have enough of that around here.I wholeheartedly agree...more people booking solid shows would most definitely help things |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:40pm - arilliusbm ""] How about we clone Rich Horror? |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:43pm - ouchdrummer ""] I dunno, I preach "support local music" all the time, but if i don't like a band after a couple songs, (which i WILL give them a chance) I stop watching till the next band. I don't think anyone can be faulted for that. It's the bands fault that they're no good. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:48pm - arilliusbm ""] What about cheap studios? Or someone willing to record bands for little-to-no cost? Part of the responsibility of being in a band is to spend money for the band. However, we all know how much it costs to professionally record something. People are always asking about cheap local studios; but in all reality they are all expensive if you ask me. |
| _________________________________ [May 5,2009 1:54pm - sinistas ""] I'm with Ken on most of this stuff, but I think one of the major challenges that we have is the lack of options for metal shows in Boston proper. There's Church, but what else is there? There was that Bullfinch Yacht Club, but they're not doing metal any more, correct? I know it's not connected to the first part, but I really miss the Skybar. Rich and I booked some cool shows there. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 2:00pm - arilliusbm ""] Skybar was pretty cool. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 2:12pm - reimroc ""] RustyPS said:I think the only way you can affect what goes on in the local scene (and I know this sounds cliche, especially coming from a band member) is to support any local bands you like. I'm not just talking about going to their shows and buy their merch, but spreading the word. Word of mouth is an underrated, but very powerful tool in getting people to do things. I know from experience getting people to commit to going to local shows is like pulling teeth most of the time. That's why if people can show some support to any local band helps perpetuate more and more kids coming out to "relevant" shows. That could be a way to start the ball rolling where the status quo sees a shift to a healthier scene. I'm not saying any of you don't do that, because I don't know most of you, but it doing stuff like flyering for a show that you had no hand in booking or whatever, but you just like the lineup could be a HUGE help. I agree with everything you've stated. I do my best to make it to every local show I can with bands that I enjoy listening to. Its not like famous bands just pop out of nowhere, they all start out on the same level, local. I also feel that in most cases the local stuff is much better than what the "underground" record labels shove down our throat. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 2:14pm - reimroc ""] ouchdrummer said:I dunno, I preach "support local music" all the time, but if i don't like a band after a couple songs, (which i WILL give them a chance) I stop watching till the next band. I don't think anyone can be faulted for that. It's the bands fault that they're no good. Of course. I've gone to plenty of local shows just because one band was playing and 90% of the time I leave as a fan of one if not more other bands I heard for the first time that night. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 2:17pm - arilliusbm ""] Reimroc, want to join Black Mesa? |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 2:17pm - reimroc ""] video game influenced metal? count my nerdy ass in. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 2:25pm - arilliusbm ""] Nah, just a quick Half-life reference. I am working on a top-secret 8-bit metal project, though. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 2:26pm - reimroc ""] lol still count me in. |
| _______________________________________ [May 5,2009 6:03pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] LOL @ METAL SHOWS BEING RELEVANT |
| __________________________________________ [May 5,2009 8:16pm - grizloch‘slaptop ""] someone sum up everything in this thread after my first post... |
| _______________________________ [May 5,2009 8:32pm - Kevord ""] grizloch‘slaptop said:someone sum up everything in this thread after my first post... Alot of people talking about stuff they'll never do to improve a "scene". |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 8:46pm - RichHorror ""] arilliusbm said:How about we clone Rich Horror? THE ONLY PRACTICAL SOLUTION. Seriously, a good amount of the people I see bitching about this sort of thing online I NEVER see at any local shows. So fuck off and die. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 8:49pm - RichHorror ""] The only person on this board that does any real support of the scene is UN: boblovesmusic. Everyone else just goes to the shows they play or just their friends' bands' shows. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 8:51pm - RichHorror ""] Myself included. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 9:00pm - RichHorror ""] Kevord said: grizloch‘slaptop said:someone sum up everything in this thread after my first post... Alot of people talking about stuff they'll never do to improve a "scene". hahahahahaha, correct. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 9:11pm - RustyPS ""] my idea is good for people with some time on their hands.....sadly, I'm not one of those people I wasn't trying to preach or anything either...just felt like posting a thought on the subject |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2009 9:21pm - narkybark ""] bob is truly a music lover, cheers to him |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 9:24pm - RustyPS ""] its funny cause his name isn't even Bob...lol but yea, dude's a fucking trooper.....much respect |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2009 9:25pm - narkybark ""] I know he's named after various birdlife but he'll always be bob to me! |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2009 9:27pm - RustyPS ""] fair enough lol |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2009 11:14pm - arilliusbm ""] I don't nearly go to as many local shows as I used to anymore. Having kidz does that sometimes I guess |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2009 11:36pm - RichHorror ""] That's why I said it was a username, genius. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 11:39pm - dreadkill ""] RichHorror said:The only person on this board that does any real support of the scene is UN: boblovesmusic. very true. i can't remember the last time i went to a show and didn't see him there. i'm not certain, but i think he goes to more shows than the reverend. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2009 11:43pm - dreadkill ""] RustyPS said:its funny cause his name isn't even Bob...lol as far as i know, the only person with bob in their rttp handle who's actually named bob is BOBDEAD. i know boblovesmusic and bobnomaamrooney aren't actually bobs. am i forgetting anyone? |
| ______________________________________ [May 6,2009 1:08am - i_am_not_bob ""] You're forgetting me. :stupidflanders: |
| __________________________________ [May 6,2009 9:12am - dreadkill ""] hahahahaha |
| ________________________________ [May 6,2009 10:31am - xmikex ""] iwenttoarelevantmetalshowonce |
| _________________________________ [May 6,2009 11:31am - reimroc ""] iwrestledareleventmetalshowonce |
| ________________________________ [May 6,2009 11:36am - xmikex ""] ibloggedaboutarelevantmetalshowonce |
| _________________________________ [May 6,2009 11:40am - reimroc ""] ireadablogaboutareleventmetalshowoncemaybeitwasyours |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2009 11:43am - ouchdrummer ""] itwasn't |
| ________________________________ [May 6,2009 11:46am - xmikex ""] I know I'm late to this thread, but why is anyone taking the bait on this instead of pointing out that this dude is obviously just trying to sell his rinky dink little blog to people so he can get a job writing for Kerrang? |
| ___________________________________ [May 6,2009 11:50am - dreadkill ""] remember the candy called rinky dinks back in the day? i think they failed because no one wanted to put dinks in their mouths. |
| ____________________________________ [May 6,2009 11:51am - arilliusbm ""] i didnt even read the blog haha |