Great cheap opportunity to get your band swag into the NE Metal Fest - Oak Knoll Productions table at NE Metal Fest
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[Feb 23,2006 4:08pm - jrb2971 ""]
This year Oak Knoll Productions has reserved a table at the New England metal fest. I really want to help push the local and underground scene (and recup some costs, having an indie label at a big show.. well it's outrageously expensive for someone trying to turn a hobby into a break even job).
What I'm offering to bands or anyone interested: I'll have someone there at my table (or myself) handing out SWAG bags(stuff we always get (from others?)). Your band can have your cd, flyer, sticker, etc placed in these bags we'll hand out to the masses as they pass our table. You can lock yourself in right now if you want since I'm just placing the price at just $25 a day. I'll take your swag and put them each in the tons of bags I'll be handing out. 3 days will only be $70 ($5 off whoopie!!). There will be a limit of 1 flyer, cd and sticker (3 items) per band and we keep handing out stuff in bags as long as I have bags and swag.
So get in touch with me if you want in. You'll be part if the indie/underground metal scene that is working it's way into these huge fests where it's getting almost impossible for us locals to be part of.
Email me if you'd like to get into this easy way to promote your band.
-Jeremy
jeremy@oak-knoll.com
http://www.oakknollmetal.com
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[Feb 23,2006 4:15pm - pisscup ""]
Get on this Keith!!!
[Feb 23,2006 4:16pm - KeithMutiny ""]
hahaha, YEAH!
[Feb 23,2006 4:24pm - jrb2971 ""]
you guys know my rep, I am an honest guy so really let me take you with me when I bring Oak Knoll's extreme metal and your swag to this show! I'll work my ass off for you - just ask my bands.
If this swag opprotunity goes well... I'll offer it for the Death In The Forest fest as well...
http://www.deathintheforest.com
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[Feb 23,2006 4:34pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Pay $70 to give away your stuff for free, yay!
[Feb 23,2006 4:35pm - thedeparted ""]
i think $70 is a little much, how come the high price?
[Feb 23,2006 4:38pm - jrb2971 ""]
or you can stand outside somehow all day and night handing your stuff out. They don't usually let you bring in hundreds of swag items to hand out... you just try it. I tried to last year. I'm paying 1500 to get in there and push real metal to the masses. How come I could have guessed you'd post the first pointless reply Johnny boy.. why aren't you shelling out money and offering to help other bands promote themselves? I'm pouring more money into this scene as well as giving out free stuff at shows then you have ever done in your life. I think we'll keep your graciously giving attitude in mind when it comes to sharing the limelight mumble mumble marshalls. Atleast everyone know they'll get their money's worth from me vs some scrounge who overcharges for crap cds.
I haven't seen any Pathos stuff in Firebox, Century Media, Relapse, The End Records... I do my best to deliver without being a rat.
[Feb 23,2006 4:43pm - dyingmuse ""]
i agree with jeremy, that's a lot of money for a table. and it's not like yall have to do it, just a suggestion. it's called promotion by the way. and i think jay dawg has done a fucking killer job this year! we have our releases all over the world in all the major labes distros, adds in big mags, shit i am proud to be working with jeremy, he has been nothing but super helpful to shroud and all of the bands that he works with!
not to mention one of the most selfless people i have ever met in this scene.
\m/
[Feb 23,2006 4:43pm - jrb2971 ""]
thedeparted said:i think $70 is a little much, how come the high price?
$70 for 3 days is too much? You wouldn't pay $25 a day and $70 for 3 days to have you stuff handed out to anyone that walks by my table? Ok what's reasonable? I'm a reasonable guy...
I wouldn't throw this question out to Nachos Productions, but if you want to haggle in price- I'm all for it! I've asked like 8 bands already and they usually have paid like $30 for a 1 day show that doesn't draw anything.. so $25 per day is definately lower than what others have charged in the past. But do please tell me what's reasonable.
[Feb 23,2006 4:45pm - thedeparted ""]
i dont have a problem with it, and i think its great youre going to help bands out, i was just wondering i had no idea how much it costs to get a table there.
[Feb 23,2006 4:46pm - jrb2971 ""]
it's 1500 this year up from 1000... if ANYONE emails me direct and wants in to this swag bag.. we'll work some deal out between you and me direct
I really know what it's like starting with nothing much and really giving bands the shirt off my back.[Feb 23,2006 4:47pm - dyingmuse ""]
hell yeah cheers!
[Feb 23,2006 4:47pm - KeithMutiny ""]
so 1500 for a table? and how many vendor spots do they have?
[Feb 23,2006 4:55pm - anonymous+ ""]
I think like umm 6 .... don't they have them listed on the site? I think I'm the little guy amongst all these big labels. I still have a day job. If I make any money it will go back to the table or to press more cds from bands that I sign.. hopefully I can pick up some more local bands as well if things go well this year.
[Feb 23,2006 4:58pm - RustedAngel ""]
my post from the metalfest thread:
"If the palladium didn't charge for someone to setup a booth there they'd be giving out space for free. (Does your landlord let you live rent free? no Do american legions let you put on shows in their space for free? no) If you're booth is smart then $1500 is NOTHING because you'll make that back and THEN SOME. You think they want a bunch of little weener's who don't know what they're doing taking up space at such a popular event? hellz no.
If you figure 3,000 kids go to metalfest, even if only 300 kids buy cd's from you at $9/ea you're making making your $1500 back plus another $1200 which is a total of $2700. "
[Feb 23,2006 4:58pm - jrb2971 ""]
There goes my pseudonym!
[Feb 23,2006 4:59pm - dreadkill ""]
jeremy's a good dude. oak knoll rules. if i wasn't in credit card debt, i'd certainly consider this deal.
[Feb 23,2006 5:01pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
You have to be a sucker to pay that much for a table.
And Pathos release ARE available at Relapse, Century Media and The End, as well as hundreds of other places.
Yeah, and I did a radio show for over 6 years "for free" and have been doing my distro since 1993, so whatever, crybaby.
And you can have the limelight and sell to the masses, I don't want that garbage.
[Feb 23,2006 5:02pm - jrb2971 ""]
RustedAngel said:my post from the metalfest thread:
"If the palladium didn't charge for someone to setup a booth there they'd be giving out space for free. (Does your landlord let you live rent free? no Do american legions let you put on shows in their space for free? no) If you're booth is smart then $1500 is NOTHING because you'll make that back and THEN SOME. You think they want a bunch of little weener's who don't know what they're doing taking up space at such a popular event? hellz no.
If you figure 3,000 kids go to metalfest, even if only 300 kids buy cd's from you at $9/ea you're making making your $1500 back plus another $1700 which is a total of $2700. "
I can only hope these kids will buy my extreme metal vs some big label ga ga... Then again don't most kids just get into what they hear on the radio? You definately have a point, which is why I'm going to figure out where to get the $1500 to get the table... it's like gambling and the odds aren't too bad. Then again the odds of a band getting good publicity in the swag bags is also just as good as the 3,000 kids buying stuff from me. So your point, well taken, really helps this swag effectiveness. You're hired! when can you start?
[Feb 23,2006 5:07pm - jrb2971 ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:You have to be a sucker to pay that much for a table.
And Pathos release ARE available at Relapse, Century Media and The End, as well as hundreds of other places.
Yeah, and iI did a radio show for over 6 years "for free" and have been doing my distro since 1993, so whatever, crybaby.
And you can have the limelight and sell to the masses, I don't want that garbage.
I guess your stuff just sold out at Firebox! hehe Crybaby.. wow .. I just can't wait to make sure you have enough space in New Bedford for the show coming up. 6 years of talking crap on the airwaves or handing out free cds to kids who can't afford paying alot for your recommended garbage of the day... limelight is better than lemonlight... metalheads not BIG HEADS...
catch my drift? nah, I didn't think so... cool not clepto
[Feb 23,2006 5:20pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I didn't even plan on setting up at Marshall's, GOREALITY were, but I think I will now, just to be around my fanclub.
:skull:
[Feb 23,2006 5:26pm - dyingmuse ""]
jeremy just told me on the phone on his way to the gym(otherwise he's post this) that he is willing to give john dwyer a super discount to put his stuff in our swag bags.
you gutta love this guy...or not
[Feb 23,2006 5:28pm - dyingmuse ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I didn't even plan on setting up at Marshall's, GOREALITY were, but I think I will now, just to be around my fanclub.
:skull:
i think jeremy is going to be there, cause he said someone asked him to set up there.
[Feb 23,2006 5:29pm - dyingmuse ""]
i was thinking of going who's going to be there?
[Feb 23,2006 5:33pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
GOREALITY asked me to be there too, we are having shirts made together and I am releasing their CD on my label.
And I'm not interested in marketing my stuff to NEMHF kiddies, good luck with that.
[Feb 23,2006 5:58pm - dyingmuse ""]
woah, i was just saying that the 2 of you would be there and could maybe brainstorm or something. dude, relax i am no enemy.
and like it or not, those kiddies are 1) customers 2) the future of metal and the scene(though, yeah some are pretty gay) 3) fans of above mentioned bands/zines/labels that's a kinda a weird outlook from a label, that possibly aspires to grow and become a "real" label not saying you arent real, but you know what i mean.
i for one am all about the scene growing, and thriving. call me crazy
[Feb 23,2006 6:37pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
RustedAngel said: making your $1500 back plus another $1700 which is a total of $2700.
What Einstein did those mathematics?
[Feb 23,2006 6:40pm - pam nli ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I didn't even plan on setting up at Marshall's, GOREALITY were, but I think I will now, just to be around my fanclub.
Well John, you must have forgotten this is JON's show, he books this club, they hired him, and YOU are NOT setting up a distro at this show. We invited Jeremy to be our only distro because let's see...he's not a douchebag, he doesn't badmouth bands who happily hook his bands up with shows, he doesn't call his customers kiddies, he doesn't look down on everyone, he genuinly cares about his and other bands, I could really go on all day but considering none of this will sink into your fat head I won't waste my time.
I adore Goreality, Fishcakes is one of the coolest guys especially, that I've met in a LONG time, and Jon, myself, and that gothenburg, MA band that nobody cares about...would do anything to hook up Goreality. HOWEVER, you, you fucking slob, have made it IMPOSSIBLE to overlook your attitude for Goreality's benefit.
Jon emailed Fishcakes when he initially said he wanted your distro there, and told him, with no malice, that you had not asked him to distro, and that honestly there just wasn't enough room because we asked Jeremy. (Who by the way is sponsering the show, bought us wristbands and is helping out immensly, and voluntarily.) The bar is tiny, and we don't see any reason to go out of our way so you can set up your shit. Space considering and you being a complete fucking maggot, considering.
We also said to Fishcakes, before your last shit talking session this week, that we'd be happy to provide you some space to set up Goreality's merch. I think it's a fucking shame that they have you handling their band, because everytime you run your faggot mouth, and shit on everyone with your arrogant attitude, you reflect on them. I know that you being a piece of shit has nothing to do with them, but not everyone will know that. And as someone in the music buisness you will never go far if everyone knows you're a fucking jerk. You've had your distro how long now? I see you're doing well for yourself...lol.
So let me say it for the millionth time, I'm sorry to Goreality if any of this overflows onto you, but we have ignored this fuck long enough. There are plenty of people I think are fuckers that I can completely ignore. However your lovely label leader won't let it drop and can't shut his mouth. I hope you understand.
That said, right here you faggot. :middlefinger:
[Feb 23,2006 6:44pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I must be doing something right.
[Feb 23,2006 6:48pm - dyingmuse ""]
wow, hats off to a well written speach. i don't really know johnny d well enough to agree with everything here, but after seeing his arrogant fuck everyone type attitude, i kninda have to agree with pam.
on another note, i still haven't heard gore reality yet. anyone have some mp3's? and how are you pam? \m/
[Feb 23,2006 6:52pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Yeah, she has everything right on target, that is all totally true.
[Feb 23,2006 6:56pm - pam nli ""]
prove me wrong. faggot.
I'm doing great Dan, how the hell are you?
[Feb 23,2006 7:02pm - pam nli ""]
Oh and P.S. http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?id=62
You lose all arguments. Ever.
[Feb 23,2006 7:05pm - pisscup ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I must be doing something right.
yee haw!!!
[Feb 23,2006 7:15pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
pam nli said:Oh and P.S. http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?id=62
Sometimes you have to live life on the edge to know you're alive.
And I don't have to prove shit to you or anyone else Pamela, so shove it up your cunt.
:middlefinger:
[Feb 23,2006 7:24pm - dyingmuse ""]
pretty good pam, i am now a daddy! DOOM METAL DADDY!
[Feb 23,2006 7:35pm - anonymous ""]
some times if you don't kill yourself by throwing yourself off a cliff.. try try again
[Feb 23,2006 7:41pm - brian_dc ""]
jrb2971 said:This year Oak Knoll Productions has reserved a table at the New England metal fest. I really want to help push the local and underground scene (and recup some costs, having an indie label at a big show.. well it's outrageously expensive for someone trying to turn a hobby into a break even job).
What I'm offering to bands or anyone interested: I'll have someone there at my table (or myself) handing out SWAG bags(stuff we always get (from others?)). Your band can have your cd, flyer, sticker, etc placed in these bags we'll hand out to the masses as they pass our table. You can lock yourself in right now if you want since I'm just placing the price at just $25 a day. I'll take your swag and put them each in the tons of bags I'll be handing out. 3 days will only be $70 ($5 off whoopie!!). There will be a limit of 1 flyer, cd and sticker (3 items) per band and we keep handing out stuff in bags as long as I have bags and swag.
So get in touch with me if you want in. You'll be part if the indie/underground metal scene that is working it's way into these huge fests where it's getting almost impossible for us locals to be part of.
Email me if you'd like to get into this easy way to promote your band.
-Jeremy
jeremy@oak-knoll.com
http://www.oakknollmetal.com
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My suggestion:
Pam and Dwyer...fight somewhere else so Jeremy's thread doesn't turn into a 200 post crap thread with only 20 posts actually about what he's trying to do.
[Feb 23,2006 7:43pm - jrb2971 ""]
So enough of John and his lack of thought before he replying tersely or jumping off a cliff per se.
IF ANYONE wants my help in getting their stuff out at any shows just email me or even if you want a free Oak Knoll sampler cd. Post all the negative comments you want or question my logic- it's not going to stop me
Sorry JD, your rebuttals can't even touch Pam. She rules and we all know it [Feb 23,2006 8:00pm - handinjury ""]
pam nli said:AUTOPSY_666 said:I didn't even plan on setting up at Marshall's, GOREALITY were, but I think I will now, just to be around my fanclub.
I adore Goreality, Fishcakes is one of the coolest guys especially, that I've met in a LONG time, and Jon, myself, and that gothenburg, MA band that nobody cares about...
What is "Gothenburg"? Is there a city/town in MA called that?
[Feb 23,2006 8:05pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Yeah, so anyone that wants to pay $70 to give away stuff for free, get in touch soon!
[Feb 23,2006 8:09pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Gothenburg, Sweden is where a huge majority of Melodic Death Metal bands (AT THE GATES, DARK TRANQUILLITY, etc.) come from.
[Feb 23,2006 8:11pm - pam nli ""]
Sorry Brian, but I'm not the one that starts it, ever. And I'm not gonna just keep ignoring everything to make for a peaceful rttp. Sorry.
And no, you don't have to prove anything to me John, but until you do, calling me a liar in so many words means nothing. That's all I'm saying, I'm done now.
[Feb 23,2006 8:15pm - pam nli ""]
Brian- I just realized I come off bitchy at you there, I'm not.
[Feb 23,2006 8:17pm - handinjury ""]
So there is NO Gothenburg in MA. Lies, I have been tricked.
Okay, I get it, so I play Guitar in a Death metal band from Tampa, RI.
Whatcha think John boy.......about my use of grammer and spelling.
[Feb 23,2006 8:20pm - pam nli ""]
grammar* hehe
[Feb 23,2006 8:37pm - DJ Death ""]
Hey JRB2971.... Id like to set up a CD giveaway with you for Cold Northern Vengeance Albums, with flyers at this years metal fest. Plese email me at KRAFTWERK14@yahoo.com so i can coorispond with you directly. Talk to you soon.
[Feb 23,2006 8:43pm - pam nli ""]
CNV, good stuff. Maybe we can work out something with me too, Jeremy, for the BOX of zines I still have and some STR demos.
[Feb 23,2006 9:05pm - jrb2917 nli ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:Yeah, so anyone that wants to pay $70 to give away stuff for free, get in touch soon!
There you go again, opening your mouth.. blabbling out something pointless. Why do you persist? Do you just like being a jerk? Are you out there trying to help bands? or just help yourself?
Obviously my offer for $25 a day (3 days for $70) isn't such a bad idea to some who are used to paying like $30 a day to have their stuff swagged out at crapped shows. Just because you failed math class in the last school you attended (kindergarten) doesn't mean you can keep on saying 1+1 =2 and be cool for stating the obvious or even getting up on your soapbox and miscommunicating what the actual point of this thread is about. You are a moron! You aren't doing anything to help the scene but badmouth others who are doing more than you.
Do us a favor and jump back in the Falls.. please! You might do the metal scene a favor.
[Feb 23,2006 9:09pm - jrb2917 nli ""]
pam nli said:CNV, good stuff. Maybe we can work out something with me too, Jeremy, for the BOX of zines I still have and some STR demos.
I'll be more than glad to put STR demos out , some zines.. I can even put them into those swag bags. I'll try to set up a page on my site about all of this.
Just a side note - if anyone thinks $25 a day is too much for a day.. still contact me and we'll work something out.. I am not like mr poopy pants spoiling the thread or scene :tightiewhities: