More proof Dimmu is gay[views:14930][posts:158]_________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 5:37pm - Aegathis ""] RustedAngel said:Christraper said: Or that drummers who use triggers are better than real drummers just because it sounds cleaner? Don't even get me started on the triggers debate. Saying drummers who use triggers suck is like saying guitarist's that use amplifiers suck. Haha ,and where did u get the idea to bring up that point ?>:] |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 5:42pm - Justin ACR ""] dan. said:ill give you the fact that lots of shit that goes on in europe is totally lost on americans...but come on...for all tid and stormblast completely destroy new dimmu everyone loves those albums. is it just me or does stormblast suck. theres something about that album that just doesnt strike me. but everyone seems to love it. the only dimmu album i really like is enthrone darkness triumphant. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 5:46pm - whoremastery ""] i dont like any of em! |
| _______________________________ [Dec 2,2004 5:53pm - Hooker ""] I like Puritannical. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 5:56pm - Aegathis ""] Hooker said:I like Puritannical. so do i, but for some reason i cant really get into Death cult. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 5:59pm - whoremastery ""] death cult is the only one i have..because i bought it, for nick being in lockup with napalm....very dissaponted..but killer drummer |
| _____________________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 6:00pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Why most people hate Dimmu Borgir http://www.anus.com/metal/dimmuborgir.html |
| __________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 6:24pm - Jellyfish ""] that site is fucking stupid. All the reviews are bullshit. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 2,2004 6:29pm - Hooker ""] Aegathis said:Hooker said:I like Puritannical. so do i, but for some reason i cant really get into Death cult. Yeah, me too. It didn't really stick with me. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 6:29pm - Kalopsia ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:Why most people hate Dimmu Borgir http://www.anus.com/metal/dimmuborgir.html every single one of those reviews are retarded. |
| _____________________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 6:46pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] My favorite thing about those reviews is the bullshit the guy makes up to sound like he has an intricate understanding of music theory and recording techniques. |
| _____________________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 6:47pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] "The expressive rhythms are the interaction between strumming and the snare/bass heartbeat that blasts along behind the music's tonal avalanche" |
| _______________________________ [Dec 2,2004 7:52pm - retzam ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:"The expressive rhythms are the interaction between strumming and the snare/bass heartbeat that blasts along behind the music's tonal avalanche" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 7:59pm - the_reverend ""] honestly, how does this have 112 replies? |
| _______________________________ [Dec 2,2004 8:06pm - retzam ""] I only make up one fifty-sixth of them. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 8:13pm - the_reverend ""] you must be wicked excited about that AIDS vacine. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 2,2004 8:15pm - retzam ""] That's what my AIDS-filled erection is telling me anyway. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 8:52pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] Somebody post that picture of dimmu poolside. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 10:12pm - __THeMoor__ ""] fuck all of y'all, dimmu=awesome, who cares about the picture. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 11:06pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] Immortal has a ton of homo-erotic pictures... but their music still rules. Dimmu still rules as well so um... die. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 11:15pm - Dissector ""] Am I the only one on this planet that doesn't like Immortal? |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 11:18pm - attendmyrequiem ""] i don't get why people are arguing. so someone doesn't like dimmu borgir and people think that picture is funny stupid thing to waste typing on. i'm mortified by the fact that i'm doing it now. wtf |
| ________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 11:29pm - retzam ""] hahaha, the issue is that people are basing their opinions of bands on the way the band dresses and their interest in shooting funny pictures of themselves, not that people don't like dimmu. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 11:30pm - retzam ""] Dissector said:Am I the only one on this planet that doesn't like Immortal? You can't be, they are really cheesy and not for every black metal fan, and Battles In The North is a horrible album. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 2,2004 11:36pm - Abbath ""] retzam said:hahaha, the issue is that people are basing their opinions of bands on the way the band dresses and their interest in shooting funny pictures of themselves, not that people don't like dimmu. did i say that at all?! i put this pic on here for the people who think dimmu is a huge joke as they made themselves, shagrath is a joke and his vocals are shit to any type of metal they call themselves today, they should have broken up and died with pride a long time ago thanks to the people who fagged this thread even more than the picture itself |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 9:27am - Christraper ""] RustedAngel said:Don't even get me started on the triggers debate. Saying drummers who use triggers suck is like saying guitarist's that use amplifiers suck. I dont think they suck. I just think its cheating a little. IMO thatd be the same as if i somehow programed my guitar to do a sick solo without me even trying. Dont get me wrong, morbid angel are still one of my favorite death metal bands but ive got more respect for bands like Destruction that sound just as good and dont use triggers. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:00am - RustedAngel ""] Christraper said: I dont think they suck. I just think its cheating a little. IMO thatd be the same as if i somehow programed my guitar to do a sick solo without me even trying. Dont get me wrong, morbid angel are still one of my favorite death metal bands but ive got more respect for bands like Destruction that sound just as good and dont use triggers. I'll say this once again, just because you use triggers does not mean you're a bad drummer (or cheating). MA drumming vs' DESTRUCTION's drumming, there's no comparison. Pete rules then even without triggers. Triggers do not play the drum's for you, and saying it's like a guitar playing a solo for you, that is so idiotic. You still use real drums, it's not a drum machine that you pre-program out before the show. Triggers give your drumset clarity which is imo essential for playing fast. Some guitarist with shitty amps that have no clarity just sound like white noise... It's the same idea...Especially in a live setting...otherwise if you're not headlining it will sound like ass over a PA almost all the time. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:19am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] RustedAngel said: Some guitarist with shitty amps that have no clarity just sound like white noise... It's the same idea...Especially in a live setting...otherwise if you're not headlining it will sound like ass over a PA almost all the time. I think the white noise thing really hurts some black metal bands. Unless you're wearing headphones or have a pretty good cd player you can't really hear what they're doing. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:21am - Christraper ""] The only triggers ive seen are on Nefarious' drum set and the ones Dave Suzuki has in his practice space and they both work so that they make the same noise no matter how hard you hit the drums. So yea youre playing fast but you could just be tapping the snare or bass pedal and it would make this thundering manowar production drum sound regardless of how hard you hit it. Some drumemrs can do that without triggers and its nice to see that every once in awhile because its rare these days. And i edited this post because i accidentally sent it too early because im stoned. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:48am - RustedAngel ""] Christraper said:The only triggers ive seen are on Nefarious' drum set and the ones Dave Suzuki has in his practice space and they both work so that they make the same noise no matter how hard you hit the drums. So yea youre playing fast but you could just be tapping the snare or bass pedal and it would make this thundering manowar production drum sound regardless of how hard you hit it. Some drumemrs can do that without triggers and its nice to see that every once in awhile because its rare these days. And i edited this post because i accidentally sent it too early because im stoned. FACT, the faster the bpm, the less time you have to hit the drum again. Sure some drummers hit harder than others at faster speeds, but doesn't mean the drummer is cheating. He just doesn't hit as hard and wants people to be able to hear the drums as well as if he were playing a slow beat. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:49am - blue ""] i trigger my guitars. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:50am - paganmegan ""] hahaha |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:53am - RustedAngel ""] blue said:i trigger my guitars. yeah, to avoid cheating, I play my guitar with no pickups. hahahaha. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:54am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] So it becomes a case of the band being faster than their drummer? I don't like it when triggers are used on slower songs. But, you really can't fault someone for using triggers if they need them to keep up with the guitarists(and considering how some bands focus on technicality and speed, triggers are almost essential to providing a beat that doesn't sound like shit) |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:55am - Christraper ""] well if some drummers can get the same sound without triggers then why dont all those uber amazing drummers who do use triggers try doing it without them? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 10:58am - Christraper ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:triggers are almost essential to providing a beat that doesn't sound like shit) maybe they should just practice harder |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:01am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Christraper said:well if some drummers can get the same sound without triggers then why dont all those uber amazing drummers who do use triggers try doing it without them? It's probably just the sound they want.(although most of us don't want it) I think the last time the trigger issue came up someone mentioned how when you see him live, it's obvious that Hellhammer hits his drums hard and fast enough to get a natural thundering sound but he prefers the "consistency" or something like that of the triggers. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:03am - paganmegan ""] drums without triggers definitely sound better... not like the fake typewriter clacky sound of triggers... |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:04am - paganmegan ""] Triggers aren't too far off from electronic drum sets... in that they just don't sound as good |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:13am - RustedAngel ""] not all triggers sound clicky, you can control the sound yourself. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:18am - RustedAngel ""] Put it this way... When your bass drum is triggered and well defined, you better make fuckin sure that you play tight or everyone will hear your mistakes. In some ways triggers can be a hindrance!! |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:19am - Christraper ""] yea you can get your bass drums to sound like bongos or orchestra hits or pretty much any sound a synthesizer has...... |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:20am - RustedAngel ""] RustedAngel said:Put it this way... When your bass drum is triggered and well defined, you better make fuckin sure that you play tight or everyone will hear your mistakes. In some ways triggers can be a hindrance!! one of the best explainations I can give you. haha. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:21am - Christraper ""] yea but that cant be too difficult since you dont have to play as hard. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:21am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Christraper said:yea you can get your bass drums to sound like bongos or orchestra hits or pretty much any sound a synthesizer has...... So it would be possible to play a guitar solo on your drums, correct? This needs to be explored. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:22am - Christraper ""] hahaha maybe! |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:24am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I wish I had a triggered drum kit right now. I need to hear a guitar solo (or any non percussion solo) played on a drum kit. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:25am - RustedAngel ""] so you're saying karl sanders / nile cheats at guitar with his midi pickup this is like debating Digital vs Film. They are a tool, used well they can help add range and variation. In the end it comes down to the sound you want to produce. If triggers can give you an extra something then why not hell if you need a 10ft gong for one hit at the end of one song, why not. Music is all about invention and creativity, the more tools you have the more choice you have. And yes sometimes simple is best but other times why not go a little crazy. Music is about imagination and feel not about technical ability. In the end technique, acoustic drums, electronic pads, cymbals, triggers, etc... etc... are all just tools to release the creativity you have inside you. If it sounds right who cares what you used to create it. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:30am - Christraper ""] Tom i completely agree with you on that. I honestly dont care what people use as long as it sounds good. People were accusing Pink Floyd of the same crap back in the day because of all the effects they use and those guys are one of my favorite bands. I just cant stand it when people say one band or one style of music is better than another just because their sound is cleaner. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2004 11:32am - RustedAngel ""] Christraper said: I just cant stand it when people say one band or one style of music is better than another just because their sound is cleaner. To me the cleaner it sounds as a metal album...and crisp, the more I can enjoy it because I can hear what's going on. I've heard too many metal bands put out albums on labels that sound like ass and it's hard to enjoy because you can't hear what's goin on unless they play something slow, and well, some bands don't play anything slower. |