PANTERA BEHIND THE MUSIC
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[May 5,2006 8:49pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
PANTERA = Godfathers of Nu-Metal
[May 5,2006 11:16pm - Aegathis ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:PANTERA = Godfathers of Nu-Metal
Ill have to agree with ya there, most nu metalers got all their riffs from them, but theyre still way better than any nu metal band.
[May 5,2006 11:42pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
It's still bottom of the barrel meathead jock bullshit crap.
[May 6,2006 4:04am - dwellingsickness ""]
They must not have let you set up a Merch table at one of their shows, huh?...You seem aweful mad
[May 6,2006 4:08am - RichHorror ""]
I hope this has footage of Diamond Darrel getting shot in the face that I can masturbate to.
[May 6,2006 4:41am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
For you Rich, don't chafe!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a4dvXMbxY4
[May 6,2006 4:43am - RichHorror ""]
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A fall-down laugh riot, everytime.
[May 6,2006 4:46am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
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Nice pink shirt.
[May 6,2006 4:47am - RichHorror ""]
I am mortified no one has redone The Meatmen's "One Down, Three To Go" as a tribute to this band.
[May 6,2006 4:53am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I want to hire Nathan Gale impersonators to go to PANTERA tribute band shows.
[May 6,2006 1:11pm - BlackoutRick ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I was an EXHORDER fan before I even knew who PANTERRIBLE were.
Bullshit.
[May 6,2006 2:24pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I don't really see what was so great about Exhorder either. Granted, they had some good energy and some good riffs, but they were nothing special compared to all the vastly superior late 80s thrash acts at the time.
Pantera. Well, they have had a few good guitar riffs (on the first two 'heavy' albums) that, had anyone else played them, I doubt we'd be seeing cries of Exodouchebag or Artilleraunchy, and a singer who has done his best work with another band, that is about all I can say. The novelty of Pantera (particularly Phil Anselmo's lame ass must-be-drug-addict-and-loud-mouthed-tough-guy-for-controversy's-sake attitude) wore thin after high school. When they opened for Suicidal Tendencies (and Exodus I think?) at the Channel in 1990 they played a good set. That's all I've got, there were so many better bands to concern myself with and the same holds true today.
[May 6,2006 2:54pm - Anthony nli ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:I don't really see what was so great about Exhorder either.
It hurts to read that. The Law has some of the coolest riffs and best vocals ever!
[May 6,2006 7:26pm - dwellingsickness ""]
BlackoutRick said:AUTOPSY_666 said:I was an EXHORDER fan before I even knew who PANTERRIBLE were.
Bullshit.
I too was an exhorder fan way before ever hearing of Pantera, I think I first heard them when Far Beyond Driven came out. There was so much killer stuff between Exhorder's Slaughter of the vatican in 1990, and Pantera in 1994 , that I guess i just missed out on pantera, oh well. wasn't too big of a loss. Maybe living in south florida at that time and the death metal scene down there had something to do with it also:NEWHORNS:
[May 6,2006 9:52pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Anthony nli said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:I don't really see what was so great about Exhorder either.
It hurts to read that. The Law has some of the coolest riffs and best vocals ever!
Is there some other pressing of the album than the one I have? Because these vocals are not very good, and the lyrics are some of the most pedestrian I have ever read:
turn a deaf ear to all of
your
previous hearings so I can
tell you
the truth...
here we come to defy
all we have in mind is us
and all the rest is refuse
so you can stay or turn
away
what's mine is mine
and hers is mine
and his is mine
and yours is mine
that's the fact
I can recall a time when I
was young and was
taught to do
what is socially
acceptable
such a shit receptable
well, fool, I don't know
about you
but I'm gonna get some of
that pie
[May 7,2006 12:16am - Anthony nli ""]
The lyrics don't look great typed out but it's the way he delivers them that makes them awesome. I must have a very different taste in vocals than you because I think he's an ideal vocalist.
[May 7,2006 2:43am - craigforacurse ""]
pam said:generally "false" is a term skinny virgins in corpse paint use for bands that sell more than 20 CDs.
HAHA THAT IS AWESOME!
[May 7,2006 3:57am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
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http://exhorder.tripod.com/main.html
[May 7,2006 10:28am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I'm not surprised that he's wearing that shirt, they were from the same state and I remember Phil himself telling my friends and I to check them out (among other bands). That's actually how I got my first Exhorder cassette. As much as I loathe what that guy became, one thing I can't gripe about is that he's always been into underground music and still is.
Their vocals are indeed similar (I think moreso than the riffs, drums, etc). But here is my confusion, and this has always troubled me because there has always been that 'Pantera sucks they ripped off Exhorder' thing going on for the past 14-15 years:
If Kyle's vocals are great, then why are the Pantera vocals terrible? Surely they are similar, but by this same reasoning, aren't all death and black metal vocals post-1990 also ripoffs? I just can't wrap my mind around why this logic applies to Pantera but not to those 5,373,365 other bands. Is it because they sold out stadiums, made a lot of money and a lot of fans, but Exhorder couldn't even last for three albums?
I know I'm playing the devil's advocate here, anyway, the Pantera 'defense' is at an end, because I have so many other better reasons to dislike that band than because they were influenced by Exhorder.
[May 8,2006 9:03am - Anthony nli ""]
yeah I agree, if you're going to hate on Pantera it's better just to leave Exhorder out of it.
Imagine if you put all that time and energy into your band and released two killer albums and then 10 years later the only way people remember you, most having never even heard you, is to say that another band ripped you off? Exhorder (at least Kyle Thomas, from an interview I read) hate that shit and wish people would stop it. Plus, it's not like there's bad blood or resentment between the two bands.
The reason why Exhorder broke up and never made it big is because Roadrunner screwed them over, not because Pantera stole their success.
[May 8,2006 9:40am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
I have to admit, I've never heard Exhorder. I've heard OF them but never their music. Where would I find their music so I can make a valid and sophisticated answer to why Pantera did this or that?
[May 8,2006 10:00am - xmikex ""]
I hate Phil Anselmo
I hate his vocals
I hate every lyric he ever wrote
I hate every stupid haircut he ever had
I hate that stupid pose he does on the cover of Cowboys From Hell
I hate all the dumb shit he says in between songs
I hate that stupid sour puss bass player, "Rex" what the hell kind of name is that?
I hate Pantera's ENTIRE fanbase
I hate everyone who's ever yelled "PANTERA" at a show that Pantera didn't play
I hate their stupid clean vocals
I hate when meathead teenage couples think Cemetary Gates is "their song."
I hate any Joe Christianni looking motherfucker who ever thought Walk was the personal soundtrack to his life
I hate the end of Walk when Phil Anselmo goes "You talkin to me.....I'm not home boy"
I hate anyone that ever took Pantera lyrics seriously
but when you weed out all the bullshit, and disregard Reinventing The Steel they wrote some outstanding music, Dime was the absolute man, and Far Beyond Driven is still a mega sweet album.
but anyone who ever thought Pantera is now, or was ever the "kings of metal" (a title I always abhored) is in a Joe Christianni poser coma.
[May 8,2006 10:18am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
All great reasons to hate Pantera in my opinion
[May 8,2006 10:19am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Actually at the end of "Walk", Phil says "You talkin' to me? Walk on home boy."
[May 8,2006 10:21am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
And that's exactly what he's thinking as he counts his bread while reading all our anti-Panti sentiments.
[May 8,2006 10:24am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
HaHa
[May 8,2006 10:30am - Yeti ""]
Pantera are in fact the Kings of Metal. Slayer assumes that role, but it definitely goes to Pantera. fuck what you have to say.
[May 8,2006 11:05am - kessaris ""]
you know what I love...
is when all the people who don't really do too much with themselves come out of the woodwork to bash Pantera. Then I hear the music they make and it's fucking awful. It winds up being just ambiant noise that is neither coherent nor worthy of a second listen. Fact of the matter is that Pantera made more money touring and making albums and just having fun than everyone on this thread combined. Including myself.
So the next time someone wants to say hey, Pantera sucked, or Pantera was gay in the 80's 'cause they were a hair band...just throw on Far Beyond Driven and think of the STrip Club they bought 'cause they made that album.
Nirvana sucks...different story altogether
Fact is Dimebag had more talent than any of his bashers...so pissoff sister and get me some pretzels
[May 8,2006 11:27am - xmikex ""]
kessaris said:you know what I love...
is when all the people who don't really do too much with themselves come out of the woodwork to bash Pantera. Then I hear the music they make and it's fucking awful. It winds up being just ambiant noise that is neither coherent nor worthy of a second listen. Fact of the matter is that Pantera made more money touring and making albums and just having fun than everyone on this thread combined. Including myself.
what an absolutely dumb reason to defend a band. And I actually like Pantera.
Sadam Hussein had more money than me from doing what he did, and I don't like him.
Wayne Newton could fit my apartment in his bathroom, and I don't respect him.
Rupert Murdock could buy, and sell me a hundred times over, and he's still a son of a bitch.
50 Cent has more money per buck tooth then I make in a year. STILL.. the ASPCA puts 1,000 homeless cats to sleep every day that have more talent then him.
thats like kids who try to say Eastcide was a worthwhile band because they played on TV. Big shit.
[May 8,2006 11:29am - xmikex ""]
ConquerTheBaphomet said:Actually at the end of "Walk", Phil says "You talkin' to me? Walk on home boy."
That makes about as much sense. I guess he couldn't ennunciate too well with Richie Sambora's balls in his mouth.
[May 8,2006 11:38am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
No kidding, by the very same logic, Avril Lavigne has more talent than Pantera because she makes a lot of money touring and making albums, moreso than Pantera did, and she is having more fun than all of us. I don't think that argument always works.
[May 8,2006 11:41am - xmikex ""]
Celiene Dion, Jennifer Lopez, Barbara Striesand, Oprah Winfrey
ALL make more money than Pantera, and by that logic are better.
don't work.
[May 8,2006 11:42am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I forgot Oprah....she is actually far heavier than Pantera too.
:Drum roll:
I'm sorry.
[May 8,2006 11:42am - pisscup ""]
I remember sometime back in the late eighties or early nineties when I was at some party watching headbanger's ball and a Pantera video came on. I was like "who the hell are these poseurs???" I never paid much attention to them after that. They didn't come from my scene and they never made it in to my scene. All they did was convince a bunch of kids who didn't know better that they were true.
[May 8,2006 1:02pm - Josh_Martin ""]
"Cowboys From Hell" is the gayest album title ever.
That's really all I have to add to this thread.
[May 8,2006 1:11pm - BlackoutRick ""]
kessaris said:you know what I love...
is when all the people who don't really do too much with themselves come out of the woodwork to bash Pantera. Then I hear the music they make and it's fucking awful. It winds up being just ambiant noise that is neither coherent nor worthy of a second listen. Fact of the matter is that Pantera made more money touring and making albums and just having fun than everyone on this thread combined. Including myself.
So the next time someone wants to say hey, Pantera sucked, or Pantera was gay in the 80's 'cause they were a hair band...just throw on Far Beyond Driven and think of the STrip Club they bought 'cause they made that album.
Nirvana sucks...different story altogether
Fact is Dimebag had more talent than any of his bashers...so pissoff sister and get me some pretzels
Brilliant!!
[May 8,2006 1:15pm - Yeti ""]
if Pantera was still around and touring, and say hypothetically they were at any one of any of your shows, and they really enjoyed your music and asked you to play with them, you would be all over their nuts in a heartbeat. the only reason anyone bashes Pantera is solely because of jealousy. they did what you cant.
[May 8,2006 1:18pm - Kinslayer ""]
xmikex said:"You talkin to me.....I'm not home boy"
He says "walk on home boy"...still a pretty dumb lyric, for sure; just thought I'd clarify that.
[May 8,2006 1:40pm - xmikex ""]
somebody beat you to it dude
[May 8,2006 1:46pm - xmikex ""]
Josh_Martin said:"Cowboys From Hell" is the gayest album title ever.
That's really all I have to add to this thread.
Is it as gay as writing a song of the same title and filling it with a bunch of old tyme wild west speak? I dunno.
WE'RE TAKIN OVA THIS TOWWWWN
[May 8,2006 1:47pm - xmikex ""]
Yeti said: the only reason anyone bashes Pantera is solely because of jealousy. they did what you cant.
that's right.
NONE of you could have ever started a band as bad as Viking Crown.
Get jelous.
[May 8,2006 1:49pm - dftg ""]
xmikex said:kessaris said:you know what I love...
is when all the people who don't really do too much with themselves come out of the woodwork to bash Pantera. Then I hear the music they make and it's fucking awful. It winds up being just ambiant noise that is neither coherent nor worthy of a second listen. Fact of the matter is that Pantera made more money touring and making albums and just having fun than everyone on this thread combined. Including myself.
what an absolutely dumb reason to defend a band. And I actually like Pantera.
Sadam Hussein had more money than me from doing what he did, and I don't like him.
Wayne Newton could fit my apartment in his bathroom, and I don't respect him.
Rupert Murdock could buy, and sell me a hundred times over, and he's still a son of a bitch.
50 Cent has more money per buck tooth then I make in a year. STILL.. the ASPCA puts 1,000 homeless cats to sleep every day that have more talent then him.
thats like kids who try to say Eastcide was a worthwhile band because they played on TV. Big shit.
this post was awesome.
[May 8,2006 2:22pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Yeti said:if Pantera was still around and touring, and say hypothetically they were at any one of any of your shows, and they really enjoyed your music and asked you to play with them, you would be all over their nuts in a heartbeat. the only reason anyone bashes Pantera is solely because of jealousy. they did what you cant.
Wrong.
They were all wicked cool people to hang out with, but musically they knew how I felt. And they were cool enough not to care.
[May 8,2006 3:07pm - Sacreligion ""]
pantera is far greater than anything you could ever achieve or hope to even dream of
[May 8,2006 3:13pm - Yeti ""]
Josh_Martin said:Yeti said:if Pantera was still around and touring, and say hypothetically they were at any one of any of your shows, and they really enjoyed your music and asked you to play with them, you would be all over their nuts in a heartbeat. the only reason anyone bashes Pantera is solely because of jealousy. they did what you cant.
Wrong.
They were all wicked cool people to hang out with, but musically they knew how I felt. And they were cool enough not to care.
well i guess that just solidifies the fact that they suck. i guess i'll just throw out my Pantera cds.
[May 8,2006 3:14pm - Yeti ""]
xmikex said:Yeti said: the only reason anyone bashes Pantera is solely because of jealousy. they did what you cant.
that's right.
NONE of you could have ever started a band as bad as Viking Crown.
Get jelous.
ok i will give you that. Viking Crown does in fact suck.
[May 8,2006 3:28pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Yeti said:Josh_Martin said:Yeti said:if Pantera was still around and touring, and say hypothetically they were at any one of any of your shows, and they really enjoyed your music and asked you to play with them, you would be all over their nuts in a heartbeat. the only reason anyone bashes Pantera is solely because of jealousy. they did what you cant.
Wrong.
They were all wicked cool people to hang out with, but musically they knew how I felt. And they were cool enough not to care.
well i guess that just solidifies the fact that they suck. i guess i'll just throw out my Pantera cds.
Huh? All I was saying was that just because you would kiss a popular bands ass doesn't mean everyone else would too.
[May 8,2006 3:33pm - Yeti ""]
meh. i dont care either way, its just fun to get everyones panties in a bunch. and dont lie, AC was all up on Panteras nuts.
[May 8,2006 3:48pm - Josh_Martin ""]
I don't speak for AC. All I'm saying is I made it very clear that I don't like Pantera and never did. (until I got all their 80's albums, I like those)
[May 8,2006 4:21pm - BornSoVile ""]
let's do this thing in style....