PANTERA BEHIND THE MUSIC[views:45327][posts:163]____________________________________ [May 8,2006 4:28pm - Sacreligion ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [May 8,2006 5:49pm - Killer Kaduggan ""] this whole thread's got zackleys |
| __________________________________ [May 8,2006 6:09pm - dreadkill ""] i was just talking with a friend about how awful viking crown was. |
| __________________________________ [May 8,2006 6:14pm - dreadkill ""] pam said:generally "false" is a term skinny virgins in corpse paint use for bands that sell more than 20 CDs. ha, that ruled. |
| _________________________________ [May 8,2006 6:47pm - kessaris ""] xmikex said:kessaris said:you know what I love... is when all the people who don't really do too much with themselves come out of the woodwork to bash Pantera. Then I hear the music they make and it's fucking awful. It winds up being just ambiant noise that is neither coherent nor worthy of a second listen. Fact of the matter is that Pantera made more money touring and making albums and just having fun than everyone on this thread combined. Including myself. what an absolutely dumb reason to defend a band. And I actually like Pantera. Sadam Hussein had more money than me from doing what he did, and I don't like him. Wayne Newton could fit my apartment in his bathroom, and I don't respect him. Rupert Murdock could buy, and sell me a hundred times over, and he's still a son of a bitch. 50 Cent has more money per buck tooth then I make in a year. STILL.. the ASPCA puts 1,000 homeless cats to sleep every day that have more talent then him. thats like kids who try to say Eastcide was a worthwhile band because they played on TV. Big shit. go drink a beer and shut up 'cause I could really careless about your vagina |
| _________________________________ [May 8,2006 6:52pm - kessaris ""] I hate it when people don't quote the whole post. Had I been in Anthrax this would have been on blabbermouth.net already |
| _________________________________ [May 8,2006 6:55pm - brian_dc ""] I don't mind the partial quote...makes it clear what is being responded to. |
| _________________________________ [May 8,2006 6:56pm - brian_dc ""] "Message: you are ab-using blah blah blah to reply to artfuckpushingpins. Please remove excess text as not to re-post tons" also, it's what Sir Rev enjoys. |
| _______________________________ [May 9,2006 8:09am - xmikex ""] kessaris said:go drink a beer and shut up 'cause I could really careless about your vagina first of all "care less" is two words. and the phrase is "couldn't care less" second, everyone is joking with eachother about pantera. you're the only one getting mad... about Pantera. take a Midol and chill out, you look foolish. |
| ___________________________________ [May 9,2006 8:34am - poopsmcgee ""] DrinkHardThrashHard said:I forgot Oprah....she is actually far heavier than Pantera too. :Drum roll: I'm sorry. hahaha |
| ________________________________ [May 9,2006 9:29am - mcmahon ""] Decades of Rock LIVE 2006 - Philip Anselmo performing Would? let the bashing begin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niia9PaFsxA |
| ___________________________________________ [May 9,2006 2:28pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Has anyone ever noticed in Pantera's videos and such that Phil always has that look on his face..the look that hardcore kids give when they're getting tough and are gonna kick some ass.. You know what I'm talking about? Phil is a douche bag |
| _____________________________________ [May 9,2006 2:42pm - danny p nli ""] all i know is that those zubaz pants make me want to go watch sandman wrestling videos on repeat |
| ___________________________________________ [May 9,2006 2:44pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] HaHAHAhAhaha |
| _________________________________ [May 9,2006 3:09pm - metalguy ""] Dimebag Darrell came up with cooler guitar riffs than you. Rex shut his mouth most of the time. Vinnie Paul has solid and tastful playing. and Phil had some of the best heavy metal singing around at the time. Fact of the matter is. You cannot start to sing like him without at least 3 or 4 people noticing who you are influenced by... Right away. Same goes for Dimebag. I love how most of you guys won't even recognize talent in spite of the consensus. It doesn't matter really what you think about the band itself. If a band is selling that much music. And touching that many people at once. THEY HAD TO HAVE BEEN DOING SOMETHING RIGHT!!! In ten years I will still remember Pantera..... In ten years I won't remember any of this local shit music! Neither will any of you. Grow up and stop trying to make up reasons to hate them. Stop trying to cover up the jealousy. Just admit and know that they are a group of people that should not be ignored and written off as fakes. |
| ____________________________________ [May 9,2006 3:25pm - Sacreligion ""] i'll still remember all of this local music but i see your point |
| ____________________________________ [May 9,2006 4:35pm - SeedBassist ""] metalguy said:In ten years I will still remember Pantera..... In ten years I won't remember any of this local shit music! Neither will any of you. Woah buddy, don't put down an entire music scene just because a handful of people don't enjoy Pantera...that's just not cool |
| ____________________________________________ [May 9,2006 5:42pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I'd like to thank Phil for spawning every goddamn awful metalcore vocalist ever. |
| ___________________________________ [May 9,2006 5:52pm - anonymous ""] xmikex said:kessaris said:go drink a beer and shut up 'cause I could really careless about your vagina first of all "care less" is two words. and the phrase is "couldn't care less" second, everyone is joking with eachother about pantera. you're the only one getting mad... about Pantera. take a Midol and chill out, you look foolish. you're trying to make me look foolish #1 #2 you're one of those guys who knitpicks incorrect spellings. #3...why am I wasting my time? There is a perfectly good groin that needs ascratchin' #4 ...there is no #4 #5 stop quoting me #6 don't respond to anything I say hasta |
| ______________________________________ [May 9,2006 5:53pm - kessaris nli ""] that was me, forgot to login luckily I had the word right in front of me, ptherwyse I would have prob bably misspelltit |
| ______________________________________ [May 9,2006 6:02pm - kessaris nli ""] I forgot, #7 I'm not mad at all about Pantera, I was just trying to make the detractors feel bad about themselves you on the otherhand seem to have some sort of vendetta against me for some reason. I don't know what it is, but I don't really care either. You're the one who said something. So, what am I to do, take it on the chin or respond? I'll respond? So umm, I've said what I wanted, now I guess it's your turn. Just say it, don't quote me and then pick me apart, thats what e-fedders do... |
| ________________________________________ [May 9,2006 6:08pm - Asshole Police ""] metalguy said: In ten years I will still remember Pantera..... In ten years I won't remember any of this local shit music! Neither will any of you. Grow up and stop trying to make up reasons to hate them. This actually works out well, since no one here will ever remember you either. Some people don't like Pantera, for reasons they feel are valid. YOU grow up and stop masturbing to your Phil posters, go leaf through Metal Edge and discover your next favorite band, you goddamned pop metal gusher. |
| _________________________________ [May 9,2006 7:13pm - metalguy ""] I like how you resorted to trying to offend me by refurring to subpar magazines, and band worship. Instead of getting defensive.. And trying to insult my musical tastes. Just try and take something from what I said previously. |
| _________________________________ [May 9,2006 7:29pm - metalguy ""] If you want to make fun of me further let me provide you with some actual ammo this time. Since that last comment seemed like you were really struggling. I like to listen to Charlie Parker, Jaco Pastorius, Cannibal Corpse, Killswitch Engage, Shadow's Fall, Carcass, Morbid Angel, and Victor Wooten. I think Joe Satriani is over rated, as well as Steve Via. I think Pophyria is alright and I would rather listen to Cryptopsy. I read bass player magazine. I play the Tenor Sax. I am a music geek.. All I do is read music and play bass. I don't have a girlfriend and I don't care either. I know I am not going anywhere with my musical career. But I am going for it anyways. Because music is what I love. If you cannot muster anything of quality(which I am almost positive you won't be able to) after reading that then you are sad. |
| ___________________________________ [May 9,2006 7:46pm - anonymous ""] Metalguy kicks ass!! |
| _________________________________ [May 10,2006 10:22am - xmikex ""] kessaris nli said:you on the otherhand seem to have some sort of vendetta against me for some reason. I'LL SEE YOU IN HELL, GUY I DON'T KNOW... IN HELL!!!!!!!!!! |
| _________________________________ [May 10,2006 10:27am - xmikex ""] metalguy said:And touching that many people at once. And for that same reason, everyone will always remember Michael Jackson [img] |
| _________________________________ [May 11,2006 9:24pm - mcmahon ""] 10pm tonight |
| ______________________________________ [May 11,2006 10:14pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Hahahahahahahaha! |
| ______________________________________ [May 11,2006 11:01pm - Sacreligion ""] phil anselmo = the perfect model as to why you shouldn't do heroin |
| ______________________________________ [May 11,2006 11:24pm - SeedBassist ""] Sacreligion said:phil anselmo = the perfect model as to why you shouldn't do heroin Amen to that. I enjoyed the episode. Sucks that everything ends on a sour note, and not just wth Dime's death....the fact that Phil and the Abbot family will pretty much never reconcile with each other. As much as an arrogant prick Phil can be, and as much as he fucked alot of things up in regards to Dime and Pantera...It does seem as if he feels horrible about what happenned. Everybody says shit out of anger sometimes, and everybody says things they wish they could take back. Unfortunately for Phil, he'll never have the opportunity to apoligize to Dime, and he just wants to make things right with Vince and Rita...and you can't fault a man for wanting that. |
| _________________________________ [May 11,2006 11:27pm - yummy ""] I think just the amount of conversation about Pantera on this board says enough. Whether you like them or not you're all talking about them. They made some impact on you so HA! |
| ______________________________________ [May 11,2006 11:29pm - SeedBassist ""] yummy said:I think just the amount of conversation about Pantera on this board says enough. Whether you like them or not you're all talking about them. They made some impact on you so HA! Good form.....good form indeed |
| ______________________________________ [May 12,2006 12:05am - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Nathan Gale made the most impact. |
| ______________________________________ [May 12,2006 12:10am - SeedBassist ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Nathan Gale made the most impact. Dude, honestly....that's just not cool. Having an opinion is one thing, and believe me, I have no problem with the fact that you don't enjoy Pantera's music. But poking fun at someone's death is just not cool. Regardless of how you felt about the music.....he's still a human being |
| _____________________________________________ [May 12,2006 12:11am - SAC VALASYRKA NLI ""] it was beautiful than it became real when they went from phils addiction to footage of dimes death. im seriously moved and ive found my call... as a musician im am going to put my balls to the test and revolutionize music like pantera did! fuck you if you didnt learn anything from this and congrats to thoose who were moved. lets do this shit brothers and sisters..metal music will reign again and we will be togeather!! |
| _____________________________________________ [May 12,2006 12:14am - SAC VALASYRKA NLI ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Nathan Gale made the most impact. by the fucking way that makes me sick and ive never heard of some person who is and forever will be hated as much as that peice of shit motherfucking psycho nathan " i am a fucking pussy who wants to ruin the world of metal music" gale. fuck you. |
| _____________________________________ [May 12,2006 12:32am - anonymous ""] if he had never died...no one would care about him.... damageplan would have faded away and the only way they would make a comeback would be to re-form pantera. and still....no one would think dime was a "genius" unless he was dead. i'm not downing his playing ability...it's far greater than mine....but.... why does everyone care about someone they didn't even know? sure, what happened to him was tragic...but I don't give a fuck cause I didn't know him. pantera has a big fan base...but they are NOTHING special within the realm of metal. there's far better and more influential bands out there. this is just as ridiculious as people crying over kurt cobain, 2 pac, etc, etc. |
| _____________________________________ [May 12,2006 1:19am - Sacreligion ""] people considered him a guitar god while he was still alive so there's one reason you look like an ass and if you look at metal in general, not just "underground metal," they are one of the most influential bands of the genre...they came out with pure balls to the wall metal when it was nowhere to be found as far as media coverage is concerned...they were a massive worldwide phenomena that metal hasn't seen since their passing |
| __________________________________ [May 12,2006 2:26am - Cecchini ""] anonymous said:if he had never died...no one would care about him.... damageplan would have faded away and the only way they would make a comeback would be to re-form pantera. and still....no one would think dime was a "genius" unless he was dead. i'm not downing his playing ability...it's far greater than mine....but.... why does everyone care about someone they didn't even know? sure, what happened to him was tragic...but I don't give a fuck cause I didn't know him. pantera has a big fan base...but they are NOTHING special within the realm of metal. there's far better and more influential bands out there. this is just as ridiculious as people crying over kurt cobain, 2 pac, etc, etc. people were all about Dime/Pantera when he was alive, so I disagree with your first statement. I will say that all these lame-o bands that do Pantera tributes during their shows and stop the song when it gets up to the solo part *cough throwdown cough* don't give a shit about dime. I mean, in the years before his death he was still winning all these awards in fan voted mags across the world. people care about someone they don't know because they looked up to him or felt some sorta inspiration from music he made. you probably have people you don't know in your life that if they died tomorrow would be a downer on your day. how you judge influence is all a matter of opinion. Pantera broke mainstream and thus had a wider and broader range of people to influence. So while there are better bands with better players out there, some 13 year old kid who hasn't figured how to get access to these bands had a better chance of hearing a Pantera song and being influenced by that, and eventually he will come across these 'better' bands. As much as I can't stand any era of Metallica new or old, I won't deny that they were one of the bands that got me into metal when I was younger because it was so easy to get access to it, and through that I found tons of bands I consider better and bands that have influenced me truly. As far as how special they are in metal, that's all opinion to. Some might see them as really great song writers and others might not, thats up to the listener because song writing is all personal opinion. As far as comparing his death to 2pac/Cobain... Well, Cobain took the cowards way out and shot himself when he was supposed to be raising a child, he was a pussy and thats all there is to it. As much as people here hate rap and what not, 2pac was murdered and his death should be mourned like Dimes. I know alot of people here say "oh he was just another rapper who rapped about this this and that", but keep in mind rappers have a different background and culture and is the message in rap songs really so much worse than what is said in black/death metal songs? I'm getting side tracked, but I will say that I can't recall any rappers killing and eating each other, and how much different was the 2pac/Biggie situation from what the Dime/Phil situation was becoming? Anyway. So regardless of what your personal opinion is on someone like Dime, or 2pac I guess, you can't deny that because of their mainstream success they were able to influence a large amount of people that they normally wouldn't have had access to in the underground scene. And because they were killed in circumstances beyond their control and because they placed so much inspiration in people, you have to expect that people are going to mourn them and remember them like they knew them even if they never did. fin. |
| _____________________________________ [May 12,2006 2:30am - SeedBassist ""] Ohh Cecchini, you have a way with words. you brought some good points. Dime WAS an inspiration to many people. Even if you don't like him, you should still show respect and realize that he was killed doing something that many people on this board do, which was performing the music he wrote and he loved...i'm sorry, but that is not an act deserving of murder |
| __________________________________________ [May 12,2006 2:56am - davefromthegrave ""] I like Pantera, and so, just as i do with any other band that I like, I don't give a fuck how anyone else feels about them. |
| __________________________________ [May 12,2006 3:23am - powerkok ""] Dimebag bashers are either closet homosexual kitten beaters, or have tiny penises that cannot please a woman or many small anused men. |
| ________________________________ [May 12,2006 8:10am - xmikex ""] SAC VALASYRKA NLI said:ive found my call... as a musician im am going to put my balls to the test and revolutionize music like pantera did! can't wait. [img] picture that guy playing Type O Negative 'black #1', that's all i can think of. |
| ________________________________ [May 12,2006 8:11am - xmikex ""] davefromthegrave said:I like Pantera, and so, just as i do with any other band that I like, I don't give a fuck how anyone else feels about them. bingo! :duffbeer: |
| _____________________________________ [May 12,2006 8:11am - Morbid_Mike ""] powerkok said:Dimebag bashers are either closet homosexual kitten beaters, or have tiny penises that cannot please a woman or many small anused men. Have to agree w Jess on this one Dime was a martyr for Metal! |
| _______________________________ [May 12,2006 10:32am - Yeti ""] who gives a flying fuck what some piece of shit has to say. that Behind the Music was jaw dropping. it was the most intimate look at THE GREATEST METAL BAND OF ALL TIME. seeing that footage of Dimes death was one of the most difficult things i've ever seen. i have to say the thing that irks me the most is the fact that Phil wasnt allowed at his funeral. you know, what was said wasnt cool, but it was said out of anger and despair. for a few measly years they were angry at each other, but for 20 fucking years they were like brothers. i thought that was wrong of them. this further solidified my love for Pantera, and all you fucks that talk shit about Dime being killed, you know, i can understand not liking Panteras music, but mocking cold blooded murder is wrong. what if your brother was shot to death and someone started making fun of it? you'd fucking flip. Pantera was, and always will be more than 99% of us can ever dream to be. their legacy will live on when you are rotting on a couch after a failed life. |
| __________________________________________ [May 12,2006 11:07am - dreadedsilence ""] Yeti said:who gives a flying fuck what some piece of shit has to say. that Behind the Music was jaw dropping. it was the most intimate look at THE GREATEST METAL BAND OF ALL TIME. seeing that footage of Dimes death was one of the most difficult things i've ever seen. i have to say the thing that irks me the most is the fact that Phil wasnt allowed at his funeral. you know, what was said wasnt cool, but it was said out of anger and despair. for a few measly years they were angry at each other, but for 20 fucking years they were like brothers. i thought that was wrong of them. this further solidified my love for Pantera, and all you fucks that talk shit about Dime being killed, you know, i can understand not liking Panteras music, but mocking cold blooded murder is wrong. what if your brother was shot to death and someone started making fun of it? you'd fucking flip. Pantera was, and always will be more than 99% of us can ever dream to be. their legacy will live on when you are rotting on a couch after a failed life. pretty much the same thing i was thinking. what really bothered me was when Dime's wife said she told Phil that she'd "blow his fucking head off" herself if he showed up to the funeral. it's a sad thing when a tragedy like this should be bringing the abbotts and phil closer to resolving their issues, but instead it's fueling their feud. |
| _______________________________________ [May 12,2006 11:43am - danny p nli ""] yeah dimes wife seemed like a royal bitch. total texas trash |
| ______________________________________ [May 12,2006 12:39pm - HailTheLeaf ""] They spent too much time dwelling on Dime's death..and damn they made Phil look bad...it's all the way it was put together, we'll never really know how shit went down. |