Islam is so peaceful.......we are the tyrants for attacking them!!! I've seen the light!!!![views:28868][posts:174]__________________________________________ [Aug 26,2006 12:02pm - CaptainCleanoff ""] ShadowSD said:Listen to me carefully. FUCK JEWISH SUPREMACISTS. FUCK WHITE SUPREMACISTS. FUCK ISLAMIC SUPREMACISTS. They are all different shades of the same gay. Gay? you are racist. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 26,2006 12:05pm - Troll ""] he's gaycist |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 26,2006 1:09pm - CaptainCleanoff ""] Troll said:he's gaycist Big time. [img] |
| _____________________________ [Aug 26,2006 1:34pm - pam ""] HailTheLeaf said:pam said:HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out. This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are. What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution. I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things. Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 26,2006 3:45pm - CaptainCleanoff ""] pam said:HailTheLeaf said:pam said:HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out. This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are. What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution. I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things. Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board. heh, pwned again. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 26,2006 5:28pm - HailTheLeaf ""] pam said:HailTheLeaf said:pam said:HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out. This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are. What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution. I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things. Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board. I'm glad, seriously, good for you, but I was unaware that I hate the land I live on and only attempt to start political discussion on message boards...oh apparently I'm also vegan and don't have a job, oh and according to the experts on the board who have never met me, I don't write any letters, make phone calls, sign petitions, attend rallies, volunteer, or donate either. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 27,2006 3:28am - pam ""] HailTheLeaf said:pam said:HailTheLeaf said:pam said:HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out. This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are. What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution. I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things. Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board. I'm glad, seriously, good for you, but I was unaware that I hate the land I live on and only attempt to start political discussion on message boards...oh apparently I'm also vegan and don't have a job, oh and according to the experts on the board who have never met me, I don't write any letters, make phone calls, sign petitions, attend rallies, volunteer, or donate either. No but you're content to assume as much about other people. Get over yourself, you get what you give.:middlefinger: |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 27,2006 9:43pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] pam said:No but you're content to assume as much about other people. Get over yourself, you get what you give.:middlefinger: [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 27,2006 10:12pm - the_reverend ""] this thread is still here? |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 12:28am - anonymous ""] Fuck yeah, cause we hate arabs and jew bags. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 12:41am - the_reverend ""] this thread is worst than watching jackass censored. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 8:01am - anonymous ""] Almost like listening to bands that insist on hating Christians and destroying thier heritege, yes? Oh I'm sorry that shits just fine in overkill, right? Its a little too "kosher" for me, if you know what I mean... |
| __________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 6:30pm - Dankill ""] Emeril knows how we roll. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 7:44pm - PatMeebles ""] I'm surprised about the quick pointing to the Christian extremes of 500+ years ago in order to try and hush up what us anti-islamonazis say about the plight of Muslims everywhere. Yes, we were just as bad... centuries ago. The difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christianity went through all the turmoil and came out a much more humanist religion, while Islam is STILL stuck in 8th Century barbarism in much of the world. So why don't you take the same amount of scorn to the religion that, even when offered modernity and peace, shrugged it off and decided to behead Christian school girls instead? Oh yeah, bring up Milosovic. Yeah, there was a campaign in the last decade to wipe out Muslims from the region. Well, what happened? All the Christian groups and countries stood up to Milosovic and brought him down. Those bombings on abortion clinics that happen once every blue moon? Still condemned as evil by a majority of churches and Christian faiths. When was the last time you saw a no-holds-barred condemnation of Muslim attacks WITHOUT hearing at the end "but we must UNDERSTAND their anger, because it's really the Jews fault for defending themselves." Hell, we don't even have a problem calling these people what they are; Christian Fascists. The "Moderate Muslims" don't even want to admit that they have a serious problem with 150 millions members of their own faith. CAIR put out a press release that specifically scorned Bush for using the term "Islamic Fascists" because "they're not really Muslim. Well, just because you think someone's a poser doesn't mean they aren't what they say they are. What's the percentage of the Christian equivelant to Islamofascists? Are there really over 150 million Christians who support special taxes for infidels? Killing women for going to soccer matches? Circumsizing 8 year old girls with shards of glass and no anesthesia? Beheading men who don't have full beards (what is it with beheading, anyway)? Maybe you guys should, I don't know, actually COMPARE the extremes of two religions and then decide which is 1) actually worse and 2) poses more of a threat and 3) is more generally accepted by the rest of the demonination. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 7:47pm - PatMeebles ""] P.S. I declare a contest to see how many DIFFERENT examples the rest of the board can come up with of Christians bombing infidels and sinners and I'll bet all the tea in China that I can put up double that number when it comes to Muslims bombings Israel ALONE. Edit: Also eligible are killings like the Chechan school massacre or the Yelwa massacre that have the same death toll/effect as a bomb |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 8:18pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] How about this, Christians run the united states when there is supposed to be seperation of chruch and state, all our money is funneled to such christiand and jewish groups. How about this, there has never been a non christian president, and even better, only two examples in history when there were presidenst of a different kind of christianity. Where are the non english, non german, non christian, non male presidents? Why do so many things go censored on american movies and tv, but you hop over to mexico and the news broadcasters got size ddd jugs falling out of their shirts, go to japan and you see people being beheaded in little kid shows? We are fooled to think we have as much freedom as we are told we do. Judiaism, christianity, and Islam all suck. down with the desert, up with the deep forests and fjords! |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 8:27pm - PatMeebles ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:How about this, Christians run the united states when there is supposed to be seperation of chruch and state, all our money is funneled to such christiand and jewish groups. How about this, there has never been a non christian president, and even better, only two examples in history when there were presidenst of a different kind of christianity. Where are the non english, non german, non christian, non male presidents? Why do so many things go censored on american movies and tv, but you hop over to mexico and the news broadcasters got size ddd jugs falling out of their shirts, go to japan and you see people being beheaded in little kid shows? We are fooled to think we have as much freedom as we are told we do. Judiaism, christianity, and Islam all suck. down with the desert, up with the deep forests and fjords! That was quite possibly the dumbest post I've ever read. It's called a representative democracy; just because you can't see tits and violence on PBS doesn't mean it isn't available and legal in the US. Hell, you don't even have to pay to see it. Also, in Mexico their illegal immigrants are killed and tortued, while in Japan you can't spit gum on the street for fear of getting some serious legal ass fucking. Speaking of Japan, they restrict citizenship to those people they consider Japanese. There are multiple generations of immigrants who never get their citizenship, even when born there. Stop comparing the freedoms we have with the rest of the world; you will most likely lose or stalemate. You think you're so tough badmouthing relgions in America, because you know that you'd never have to live with the fear of Christians slitting your throat for it. I dare you to say that Islam sucks to a Muslim and see what kind of reaction you'd get. Do you even think of Islam, or are you just saying that Islam sucks along with Christianity and Judaism because that way, you'll come off as "balanced?" |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 8:49pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] Actually out of the three I like Islam the most, but only because of the three it is most tolerable (the koran anyways) I am not saying I support terror or Islamic Nations. As well I have nothing against, Jews, Christians, or Islamist, just the institutes that run them and use their money to make war or convert people when it could be better spent feeding the hungry, constructing buildings, funding the arts, etc. Of course I know we have the most freedom of all nations, barring possibly some of the more modern European nations, but we are slowly loosing all the freedoms we have. You can look at all the contents of the bill or rights and see where many times in history ,and more so in the present, where they are violated. I agree that some of my remarks were clearly just heated and passioned at the moment. but if you look at your refrence to Japan's gum disposal laws, isn't that a good thing? I mean , I think it is Indonesia, but anyways some country in southeast asia is the cleanest of all nations in terms of litter and graffiti and other such things, how do they keep that up? they punish the people who violate it, they make them pick up trash while wearing signs that say "I am a litterbug, I hate (insert cities name)'s streets" Sorry for my hothead and fast talking, traits o' the irish when they are bored. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 8:56pm - infoterror ""] NO SHIT MORONS EVERY ETHNIC-CULTURAL GROUP NEEDS ITS OWN SPACE THIS INCLUDES JEWS AND MUSLIMS SEND THE JEWS TO ISRAEL SEND THE MUSLIMS TO ARABIA AND MURDER THE FUCKING CHRISTIANS HEIL HITLER ...NO, PROBABLY HEIL NIETZSCHE? WHY YES I DONT MIND IF I DO EUGENICS NOW (x32) |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 9:11pm - PatMeebles ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:Actually out of the three I like Islam the most, but only because of the three it is most tolerable (the koran anyways) I am not saying I support terror or Islamic Nations. How is it the most tolerable? If the religion isn't fucked up and it's just the institution, how can you give Islam itself a pass and say that it's more tolerable? Who was more tolerable by their own accounts, Mohammed or Jesus? Jesus only raised his hand once against a temple, not people. Mohammed fought wars and was a military leader. Y_Ddraig_Goch said:it could be better spent feeding the hungry, constructing buildings, funding the arts, etc. All of those things Islam does... not. Y_Ddraig_Goch said:but if you look at your refrence to Japan's gum disposal laws, isn't that a good thing? Good thing or not, we still have more freedom. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 9:25pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] I was speaking more tolerable to my knowledge in the realm of the holy books. The Old testement is archaic and preaches all kinds of laws againts minorities, wizards, and certain social groups. the Torah calls gentiles, beasts in human forms only meant to serve the jew. and as far as I have read into the Koran I have yet to once find anything speaking down on something as evil and such. As well I never said the institutions of Islam gives to the poor and such (well they do just like all the other religions, but just like all the other ones they brainwash the people they are helping) I am saying all three would better use the money they get on said things. Of course Mohammed waged wars, he carried them out himself upon those he thought were wrong, he was a fool. I can't defend any of the three more than the other I guess of the three I just like Arabic culture more, the arts, the music, the architecture. Baghdad was once the capitol of the civilized world. I say let the three have at each other and we pick off the remains. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 9:38pm - infoterror ""] ISLAM PRESERVED THE GREEK KNOWLEDGE AFTER THE CROWD BURNT IT. I HAVE NO USE FOR CHRIST OR MOSES. I HAVE NO USE IN EUROPE/AMERICA FOR ISLAM. BUT IN THE MIDDLE EAST? WELL, THEY DO THE BEST WITH IT. AND THE JEWS HAVE NATALIE PORTMANN. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 9:40pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] Natale Portman is pretty damn hot for a flatchested jew |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 9:59pm - infoterror ""] I ONLY FIND JEWISH GIRLS HOT UP UNTIL THEY GET THEIR PERIODS. THEN I CANNOT HAVE SEX WITH THEM FOR FEAR OF PRODUCING A HALFLING SPAWN. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 28,2006 10:10pm - anonymous ""] I like mine well done if you know what I mean. |