Nick of Silver[views:18784][posts:190]__________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:31am - sxealex ""] carina is from italy? |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:37am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] maybe i dont know, im just using my vast knowledge of not knowing her to guess. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:38am - RichHorror ""] sxealex said:carina is from italy? [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:40am - succubus ""] yes i'm italian when i lived there i did get grabbed, groped, etc. just walking down the street. sucked and made me walk with a slight hunch for a long time, but anyhow |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:41am - RichHorror ""] I get grabbed everywhere I go. Usually by police. |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:43am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] succubus said:yes i'm italian when i lived there i did get grabbed, groped, etc. just walking down the street. sucked and made me walk with a slight hunch for a long time, but anyhow not agreeing Nick did anything but by logic in this thread since you didnt call the cops and report it. i guess it didnt really happen. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:44am - sxealex ""] i understand italian and both my parents teach it.. i used to get tons italian metal kids on my metal server and they would post in italian for somereason... hardly any other languages came on... |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:44am - succubus ""] i didn't need cops...if i was with a male relative..whoever did it would get punched |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:46am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] succubus said:i didn't need cops...if i was with a male relative..whoever did it would get punched id imagine so......but dont you know kung fu anyways |
| ______________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:53am - cav ""] i think that posts about this issue should be banned from rttp...this has nothing to do with music at all...im not even going to bother stating my opinion because all it does is fuel the fire. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:58am - Sacreligion ""] [img] |
| __________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:59am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] HAHAHAH YES!!!!!! I was like "Why the fuck hasn't anyone BLOGPIC'd this shit??" lol |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:00am - Sacreligion ""] i was wondering the same thing and felt compelled to oblige |
| _________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:01am - sxealex ""] i just ate my slice of bread into a honda symbol |
| _________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:01am - sxealex ""] munch munch mmm reliability |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:03am - Sacreligion ""] ha |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:14am - diamond_dave ""] well here's one that should throw you all for a loop: i have no beef or even any opinion of BestialOnslaught or pisscup. i don't know either of these guys personally. although i will say they both seem from what i've seen on here to be pretty well-adjusted, level-headed guys. hoser, i've met you in person and i like you, you seem like a solid guy, but i think you've been pretty immature in this thread. i never knew nick before a year or so ago, and i still don't know him well enough to judge. so i don't know what he was like back then, but he definitely seems like a sincere person to me. but of course you never know. of all the people involved here, i have known none longer than the person who accused nick. i know nothing of the events that are being discussed here, but i can tell you that this girl and i had some mutual friends, so we used to hang out and what not. i happen to know that she is a compulsive liar, and also has a reputation of promiscuity. i know of many people who have decided stop being her friend because of her behavior, myself included (i could give a fuck if someone sleeps around, but the constant storytelling was too much). i never heard any stories from her of this type, and again, people can change. but when i knew her (about 3-4 years ago) she was definitely not a credible person at all. edit: i'd like to add, that the fact that she doesn't seem willing to resolve anything, even to say "fuck you nick" seems to support this. i know you can't exactly "resolve" a rape if it is true, but you know what i mean. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:19am - cav ""] im not surprized |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:23am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] diamond_dave said:of all the people involved here, i have known none longer than the person who accused nick. i know nothing of the events that are being discussed here, but i can tell you that this girl and i had some mutual friends, so we used to hang out and what not. i happen to know that she is a compulsive liar, and also has a reputation of promiscuity. i know of many people who have decided stop being her friend because of her behavior, myself included (i could give a fuck if someone sleeps around, but the constant storytelling was too much). i never heard any stories from her of this type, and again, people can change. but when i knew her (about 3-4 years ago) she was definitely not a credible person at all. she started this rumor exactly that time frame ago, around 2002-2003 |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:26am - brian_dc ""] This has been a long day for everyone involved. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:26am - Sacreligion ""] i raped myself about the same time |
| ________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:27am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] the_reverend said:dundundun |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:27am - brian_dc ""] you might think that jokes about this are funny, but you're pretty much wrong. |
| ________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:31am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] yeah did you guys even get to play the rest of that show today. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:34am - brian_dc ""] yeah. the show went on. These Are: , my band, and TTOS played with an announcement regarding the issue this thread is about preceding it. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:35am - brian_dc ""] Infantile Prostitute dropped off and I'm not sure what happened to Disaster Strikes |
| ________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:40am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] brian_dc said:Infantile Prostitute dropped off and I'm not sure what happened to Disaster Strikes yeah we left when IP dropped off and couldnt stand being there with the retardedness going on. plus you folks hadnt shown up yet so we figured it was a no go. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:40am - sxealex ""] yea we did... honestly i think alot of people support nick and a selective group of people have black listed him and then there are a few people just being dick heads because its fun. id like to stop talking about it till we can futher discuss it with those people who have promised(on the terms that nick said that stuff he said b4 the set) to FINALLY have, after YEARS of attempts by him and us to have an open discussion with nick and some of his friends. more people involved = more drama. so if you wanna say u support nick go ahead start a poll for that but enough discussion and attention to the matter. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:43am - brian_dc ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:brian_dc said:Infantile Prostitute dropped off and I'm not sure what happened to Disaster Strikes yeah we left when IP dropped off and couldnt stand being there with the retardedness going on. plus you folks hadnt shown up yet so we figured it was a no go. Yeah, Nick was nice enough to let us know that there was shit going down so we wouldn't possibly waste gas to drive up to a show that wouldn't happen. So we waited for the official call that it was still going on. So yeah, we got there pretty late. Sorry we didn't get to see you Sean. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:43am - brian_dc ""] and Alex(edit: sxealex), you're totally right. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:44am - Sacreligion ""] brian_dc said:you might think that jokes about this are funny, but you're pretty much wrong. but it's the internet! |
| _________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 1:51am - sxealex ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 2:00am - brian_dc ""] sxealex said:[img] I like this one better than the Asian posing his face off in hyperspace. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 2:10am - sxealex ""] mee too that kids makes me angry. this one makes me laugh like as if that guy has a limp dick. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 2:11am - sxealex ""] i wish it had a thought bubble that said "Erection!" |
| __________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 10:59am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] since I would never have a fair day in court on Board.HP, I submit this for your consideration: katiekay - 04/24/06 at 10:12 am (68.9.230.75) so, i admittedly only read half of this thread. but i had to stop real quick and address the bullshit that omar is throwing out there. omar - 04/23/06 at 08:17 pm (207.180.183.162) the reason this bothers me is that the accused has continuously tried to talk to people about this (stemming from when this was first talked about on honeypump over a year ago) and all that happens on the other side (to the extent that i know) is him being critized. there hasn't been a dialogue about it and so this crap is not only still in the air, but people who don't even know him continue to harbor negative feelings toward him. The Accused not only refused to talk about it for over a year, but when he did he straight up denied it and in turn called me a liar and a slut. he also made repeated attempts to get in touch with me to give me shit and threaten me, not communicate about what happened in the past and what we both wanted to happen in the future. so yeah, he got criticized a little bit. when he brought this to the board by creating a thread about how he was the victim, he caught more shit, by more people, because HE chose to talk about the situation on the internet where people that he had wronged in various ways happened to post, so that he could further his harassment of them. some of those people told him off. compare that to this: "Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:15:31 -0800 (PST) From: "N Cigarettes" <fireandjail@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Subject: hey there To: kay@riseup.net Hey Katie This is Nicholas. I've heard you've been pretty angry at me and I don't know why. Everyone just says, "Don't talk to Katie, she's pissed at you!" and no one says why when I ask. What the hell did I do? Furthermore why haven't you told me? Last time we hung out we were getting along well, so is everyone just being stupid? I'll be at the meal today and maybe you could talk to me then. Or try calling me and giving me some way to get in touch with you. Or failing that, just email me. But for god's sake, if you're pissed at someone, at least tell them! 617 918 7797 voice mail your friend (to the best of my knowledge), Nicholas PS - I thought you said you liked the poem I wrote you but Colleen said you hated it. I'm sorry you didn't like it but I thought it was pretty good and I wrote it to cheer you up. Backfire..." also the new year's eve in question was NYE 2004, not 2003. That's my mistake, the evening was in 2003 and the NYD was in 2004. this means whatever statements she made were in the beginning of 2004. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 11:21am - these_are_fucked ""] All in all it seems that Nick has been mroe than reasonable, as he was last night when he was trying (through me and others) to get access to a discussion with his accusers. Repeatedly, Nick asked me to pass along word that he wanted to talk with the group that was congregating in the PZL. And repeatedly, the group in the PZL told me that they couldn't, or wouldn't talk to him directly. Instead, they were intent on "outing him" for the issues that have been discussed here. When I asked them to create a discussion that was not focused on Nick, I was accused of suppressing their free speech. When, seconds later, they were discussing how they didn't want Nick to be there, his own right to speech was ignored. True rights for all people, of all genders, races, etc, can't be achieved until the abusers of those rights can realize the harm that they inflict upon other people. The people who got up and spoke last night looked mean and vindictive to all of us in attendance because they were. For whatever Nick did to these people in the past, he has been (and was last night) completely willing to talk to those people. Their response? "He can't say he didn't do it." Which is a classy way of saying Nick was fucked over even before he stepped foot into the DC last night. The reason these people stand as abusers of equality, and not the guardians of it, is that they are using the rhetoric of feminism and equality to apply to their own personal grudges. They do not want the situation resolved, because that would mean Nick could be left alone. They do not want to go to the authorities, because from what I can tell, theres no case to be made that Nick did anything wrong. They simply want to make Nick's life hell. All I have to say is, since when were we all the judge and jury for each other's pasts. |
| ________________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 11:24am - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""] there should be a douche bag filter on this board. about 80% of people would not be able to post here. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 11:45am - CTborderpatrol ""] its the poem dude. dudes who write poetry always get fucked over. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 11:59am - Joe/NotCommon ""] slowlypeelingtheflesh said:there should be a douche bag filter on this board. about 80% of people would not be able to post here. Including me. Sorry I made this thread, I was trying to stick up for Nick. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:03pm - dreadkill ""] slowlypeelingtheflesh said:there should be a douche bag filter on this board. about 80% of people would not be able to post here. my IP address would be banned. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:04pm - dreadkill ""] Joe/NotCommon said:slowlypeelingtheflesh said:there should be a douche bag filter on this board. about 80% of people would not be able to post here. Including me. Sorry I made this thread, I was trying to stick up for Nick. you're a good man, joe. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 24,2006 12:31pm - Josh_hates_you ""] drama is gay. im not wasting the time to read this bullshit. but i will add to it. nick ciggs touched my penis once. borderline rape if you ask me. |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:37pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Subject: Hello please read IMPORTANT From: "cuntree club" <punxisladies@gmail.com> Date: Mon, April 24, 2006 3:41 pm To: "booking@therobotoproject.org" <booking@therobotoproject.org> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello I am writting on behalf of a collective of people from the boston area in regaurds to a band that is scheduled to play your space June 1 or 2 of this summer. The band in question is A Taste Of Silver. The reason I am writting is because the guitar player for this band has been brought up on charges of sexual assault and has just recently started the long process of being held accountable. In order for his band to be allowed to play shows here (and they aren't allowed to play many spaces still) The band must post a statement on their website or merchtable ,that was read aloud by the perpatrator on 4/23/06 that shows that the band supports his efforts to hold himself accountable for his actions. Stating that he is aware that he has been called out as a rapist, and that he and his band does not condone or support that behavior, that he cares what his community thinks of him and that he will do anything he can to learn about why he was called out, and about respecting boundries so that nothing like this will happen again. Also he will support the survivor and adhear to their needs or requests, especially in the matters of not speaking to them or visiting them uninvited. Also befor the band plays the perpetrator should read a short statement along the same lines, in no way should he mention any admission of guilt or innocence, there is to be no debate over whether or not anything happened, the fact of his being accused is all there is to be stated. We would very much appreciate your support on this issue and holding this man accountable for his actions, we are all working together to make the best of this situation and for the most part Nick *******, or Fast Eddie or Faust (all the same person) is trying to work with us as well. Thank you for reading this please get back to us with any questions/answers anything. Thanks again. Jennifer Marie Hardin Sarah Tetreau Sarah Okalita Leah Peacock Mary Rae Ruchti Julianna Englander Colleen Moriarty Jennifer McMahon Kyle Kubis Melissa Kent Wendy Wriot Ross Noyes Timmothy A. Banghart Terry Couzzo Scott Unless Erin A. Mike Reid Jeff Hall Sarah Delorey Rachel Wolfsy Ginn Norris Libby O'Flaurety Andrew Rogers Nicholas Murray Jill Muramo Matt Carrol Katie Kay Jeff Bramhall Ryan Abbot Rob Noyes Dave Sheehan Sue Jeivan Hannah Abeloe Matt Lieber Mark Borone Audrey Stitt Marianne Chimi Isreal Lundt Dominic Mango Joeseph White The Papercut Zine Library collective REgeneration Records store The cuntree club collective Boston MA |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:38pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I put this up cause anyone there on Sunday is probably as surprised as I am that I was "required" to do any of this. I was not informed and am pissed now that they would do this during a process where we are negotiating what the fuck is going on |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:47pm - dwellingsickness ""] Those people on that list and everyone else, Is blowing this way out of proportion |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:52pm - anonymous ""] I bet all those bitches have fish breath cause it's the cool thing to do. Once the trend is dead, they will be driving mini-vans and taking the kids to soccer pratice. Asshole whores. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:52pm - dreadkill ""] fuck all those people. nobody should be treating nick like he's guilty. i'd play a show with TTOS and tell anyone who tried to make him read some kind of statement to go fuck themselves. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:54pm - RichHorror ""] Does anyone have phone numbers for these ladies? I'd like to organize a meeting with each one to sanely and maturely open the lines of discussion and debate on this issue. I am so alone. |
| ______________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:55pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Nick, you should just tell all those people to eat your asshole. At least you're trying to rectify the situation, I doubt anyone else accused of raping someone by a group of people without a police investigation would even consider addressing the issue. |