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Open letter from Chris Grigg of Woe to Hunter Hunt-Hendrix of Liturgy

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[Jun 20,2011 5:24pm - Yeti ""]
only being wasted on stage is real. at any and all times.
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[Jun 20,2011 5:28pm - Randy_Marsh ""]

Yeti said:the beard is necessary for the amount of beer that flies out of your face when you sing. you can wring it out and start anew.


Yes, i have seen Notshaver do this many times. I think he should start his own brewing company.
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[Jun 20,2011 5:37pm - nekronaut ""]
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[Jun 20,2011 5:41pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Glass in hand like Dean fakkin Martin
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[Jun 20,2011 5:50pm - moonroom72 ""]
Black Metal was always transcendental...this new stuff isn't a step forward at all.
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[Jun 20,2011 5:51pm - Boozegood ""]
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TRANSCEND THAT MAH NUKKA
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[Jun 20,2011 5:55pm - Alexecutioner ""]

Yeti said:only being wasted on stage is real. at any and all times.


only doing an entire set being black out drunk and not remembering that you even played a show the night before is real
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[Jun 20,2011 6:03pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i belive that is refered to as "double baggin it."
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[Jun 20,2011 6:47pm - Czarnobog ""]
i could care less about woe or liturgy, but i think most people who front some kinda oh-so-innovative "artist with a vision" bullshit are almost always more ego than substance and a total waste of time. fuck bloated arty prog rock, "black" or otherwise.

i personally like my black metal like i like the death metal, punk, hardcore, and whatever other music i listen to: ugly, dark and abrasive.

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[Jun 20,2011 6:49pm - Czarnobog ""]
and spikey.

more gauntlets = more chance for blood.

the dark ones look favorably on spilled blood.
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[Jun 20,2011 7:30pm - GregD-blessedoffal ""]

Czarnobog said:i could care less about woe or liturgy, but i think most people who front some kinda oh-so-innovative "artist with a vision" bullshit are almost always more ego than substance and a total waste of time. fuck bloated arty prog rock, "black" or otherwise.

i personally like my black metal like i like the death metal, punk, hardcore, and whatever other music i listen to: ugly, dark and abrasive.





:point: This I can stand behind. :doublehorns::doublehorns:
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[Jun 20,2011 7:40pm - BlessedOffalNLI  ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:i belive that is refered to as "every blessed offal show ever."
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[Jun 20,2011 11:03pm - douchebag_patrol ""]
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[Jun 21,2011 12:21am - Hunter Hendrix  ""]
I googled my name and this came up. You guys just prove my point. And, while Chris made many good arguments, he just does not fully comprehend TBM. Honestly, I did not expect anything better from him. What a shame, we could have been so close.
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[Jun 21,2011 12:28am - frankovhell  ""]
Lol wut?

So what is your point exactly? That you transcend us neanderthals? That your music will matter in 10 years? 5 years? 3 years?

It wont. No one will give a shit. Its even pretty clear that your own brooklyn ass plungering bandmates don't either.
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[Jun 21,2011 12:46am - i_am_not_me ""]
Transcendental trolling, you say? Hiding behind burst proxies, I bet.
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[Jun 21,2011 12:48am - Boozegood ""]
Is this dude Jewish? He seems Jewish. I'd bet money he is a Jew. Or, at least one of them is.
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[Jun 21,2011 1:11am - A Glowing Old Man in the Window  ""]

Boozegood said:Is this dude Jewish? He seems Jewish. I'd bet money he is a Jew. Or, at least one of them is.


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[Jun 21,2011 1:36am - Lamp ""]

i_am_not_me said:Transcendental trolling, you say? Hiding behind burst proxies, I bet.


A substratum of chaotic proxies, if you will.
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[Jun 21,2011 2:42am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
lol @ Hunter Hearst-Wrendrix
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[Jun 21,2011 2:45am - late_rising ""]

xmikex said:And now I want to know... who booked that fucking Liturgy show in Brighton and why didn't they promote it?


I was under the impression that show had a big turnout. The kid who pours coffee at my brunch spot went. I assume it wasn't promoted in the metal scene but was promoted to the type of people who like Liturgy.
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[Jun 21,2011 2:51am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

late_rising said: the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy.
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[Jun 21,2011 2:59am - nekronaut ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:
late_rising said: the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy the type of people who like Liturgy.




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[Jun 21,2011 3:05am - Headbanging_Man ""]
Is that Deval Patrick?
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[Jun 21,2011 3:30am - Headbanging_Man ""]

bobnomaamrooney said:It's not even a question of pastoral vs. urban black metal, there are a number of bands who capably write black metal that reflect their urban experiences. These "hipster" black metal bands seem unwilling to do so, whether it's a lack of knowledge beyond second-wave Norwegian bands or willful adherence to a narrow spectrum of influences I'm not sure. And it's a shame because you can make incredible black metal records with an urban context.



This!

See also:

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[Jun 21,2011 11:11am - Mutis ""]

Hunter%20Hendrix said:I googled my name and this came up. You guys just prove my point. And, while Chris made many good arguments, he just does not fully comprehend TBM. Honestly, I did not expect anything better from him. What a shame, we could have been so close.


Probably a troll, but:

Unless one's audience is a board of nuclear physicists, an intelligent essay is written for the average half-brain. This means using simple words that the average person understands. By admitting that Grigg doesn't comprehend "TBM", you're admitting that your essay is poorly written.

Only pseudo-intellectual idiots use big words to show off. Especially today, when you can press F12 on your keyboard and pull of a list of synonyms of which you can pick the one with the most letters. Usually when I hear a black metaller use big words to convince people they're intellectuals, it comes after the phrases "racially aware" or "blood and soil".

Now that's just plain ironic.
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[Jun 21,2011 11:36am - burnsy ""]

Mutis said:Only pseudo-intellectual idiots use big words to show off.


I agree to an extent. I have a decent vocab and use 25 cent words here and there but I use them when that's the word I feel fits the context. Using words appropriately and using words just to impress people with how super-smart you are are two different things.

In this HHH interview... when he says that nonsense about the void being a substratum of chaos or whatever the fuck he said... that's the kind of person I believe you're describing. I wouldn't think he was a such a douche if he just kept shit like that to lyrics but when you're speaking like that in an interview, you come off as pretentious and seeming like you just downloaded the dictionary.com word of the day for the past month and tried to fit all you could into a single sentence.
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[Jun 21,2011 1:08pm - Cunter Cunt-Cuntrix  ""]
the void is a substratum of my butthole. enter the void.
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[Jun 21,2011 2:07pm - Mutis ""]

burnsy said:
Mutis said:Only pseudo-intellectual idiots use big words to show off.


I agree to an extent. I have a decent vocab and use 25 cent words here and there but I use them when that's the word I feel fits the context. Using words appropriately and using words just to impress people with how super-smart you are are two different things.



...or when writing a screenplay for a Star Trek episode.
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[Jun 21,2011 2:34pm - goatcatalyst ""]
sikk new Liturgy video


http://youtu.be/0lBy-04TdxY
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[Jun 21,2011 2:44pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i finally took a minute to actually check out this band. this is complete fucking garbage. also i checked out his interview. how can you even think you sound like you know what your talking about when every other word is "like"? that irritates me so much. i've heard more intelligent sounding children recite the alphabet.


"like, like, we are like black metal but like are better in so far as we like suck dicks while we transcend romanticism.."
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[Jun 21,2011 2:47pm - Hunter Hendrix  ""]
Lyrical content is inseperable from how I represent my music outside of songwriting and performance. I am the music I create.
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[Jun 21,2011 2:51pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
No, you are a faggot.
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[Jun 21,2011 2:55pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

goatcatalyst said:sikk new Liturgy video


http://youtu.be/0lBy-04TdxY



Haha, the director wasn't pleased when I called it "polishing a turd" a while back.
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[Jun 21,2011 3:03pm - goatcatalyst ""]
You'll never get invited back to the Penetralium if you continue to withold these secrets, Steve.
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[Jun 21,2011 3:07pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Pretty sure he baleeted the comment right after responding to it, y'know, like a guy who's secure of his artistic integrity would. :D
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[Jun 21,2011 3:16pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i dont know about you guys but i'd have alot more respect for this hunt hunt fellow if he killed in himself in a drunk driving accident of sort.
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[Jun 21,2011 3:58pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:i dont know about you guys but i'd have alot more respect for this hunt hunt fellow if he killed in himself in a drunk driving accident of sort.


fully back'd

he'd be like the Jon Nödtveidt of hipsters
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[Jun 21,2011 7:00pm - woeischris  ""]

Hunter%20Hendrix said:Lyrical content is inseperable from how I represent my music outside of songwriting and performance. I am the music I create.


Get over yourself Hunter. Comments like these only fuel hatred and contempt for current black metal. I am sorry this has put such a strain on our friendship, but until you chill out I will keep reminding you of what an idiot you are being.
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[Jun 21,2011 7:08pm - amorok666 ""]
Liturgys fucking gay. That is all.....

Also this:

bennyhillifier
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[Jun 21,2011 7:11pm - Headbanging_Man ""]

woeischris said:I am sorry this has put such a strain on our friendship


Faggot
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[Jun 21,2011 7:27pm - goatcatalyst ""]
All trolls. I'm not even posting in this thread. It's some degenerate fuckface from Peru
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[Jun 21,2011 7:55pm - Hunter Hendrix  ""]
What is a troll? And I\'m too cool for you Chria.
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[Jun 21,2011 7:55pm - Hunter Hendrix  ""]
What is a troll? And I\'m too cool for you Chris.
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[Jun 21,2011 9:45pm - douchebag_patrol ""]
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[Jun 22,2011 8:18am - woeischris  ""]
I wake up to this garbage? Hunter you are stupider than the people who post on this stupid website.
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[Jun 22,2011 9:58am - The_Rooster ""]
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2011/06/liturgys_hunter.html#more

Oh dear.
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[Jun 22,2011 10:11am - arilliusbm ""]
It's too bad there's no New England tour date because I would love to stab his motherfucking-cocksucking-smirk-laden face with a rapier, then slice his head off with a machete and use it as a stage prop.
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[Jun 22,2011 10:14am - shit that is brutal  ""]
^
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[Jun 22,2011 10:24am - Mutis ""]
Oh great, and give him more press?

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