Nonprescription substitutes for zoloft and risperdal[views:7219][posts:51]______________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 1:25pm - Vomitthesoul ""] Anyone else here take prescription meds for depression/anxiety? Ive been on meds for 10 years and I wanna be off them by the middle of next year.I already found a substitute for zoloft which is a herb called St. Johns wort.But I cant find anything that would replace risperdal.I already tried not taking risperdal and I got headaches and couldnt fall asleep. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 1:55pm - dreadkill ""] i recently got on prozac. it makes me less angry but i still managed to flip out on christmas and yell at my girlfriend. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 1:57pm - BornSoVile ""] smoke weed. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 2:41pm - Vomitthesoul ""] I smoked weed for years.But after awhile of doing that every day I got real depressed and lazy.Weed dont work for me |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 3:13pm - the_reverend ""] prozac takes 2 weeks to start working |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 3:14pm - Vomitthesoul ""] I take zoloft which is similiar to prozac |
| ______________________________ [Dec 30,2005 3:24pm - Yeti ""] why are people so quick to take medication? sure there are plenty of wackjobs to hand this shit out to, but doesnt anyone use willpower? i suffer from a deplorable excess of explosive and often misplaced anger, which "should" have been attacked with medication. however i refused to let a chemical dictate my body, and with hardwork and time, i am overcoming it. and dont be so quick to buy into the whole "herbal" remedy shit. there is only one herb that anyone needs. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 3:28pm - dreadkill ""] i wasn't quick to take medication. i tried just about every way to make myself feel better over the years, but i finally turned to medication when i realized nothing else was ever going to work. i probably should have started taking meds 15 years ago. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 30,2005 3:36pm - Hoser ""] Yeti has obviously never had persistent and massive panic attacks. The kind that make you feel like you would rather be dead. Ya know, can't breathe, chest pain, feeling like you're going crazy, feeling like you want to stab your wife when she's done nothing wrong, blurred vision, dizziness. I take Lexapro.....stuff kicks ass. Been on it for about 4 months. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 4:07pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""] I was on risperdal for about a year because I couldn't shut my brain up when I needed to sleep. It was one of the easier meds to ween myself off of when I just got too tired to care about anything and was able to sleep. On a side note, risperdal is an anti-psychotic they give to schizophrenics. Made me feel even more fucked up when I found that out. But I got over it. I actually don't take anything anymore. I'm not cured but I convinced myself that I didn't need them. Don't know if that's good or bad. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 5:04pm - overdosenow ""] Yeti said:why are people so quick to take medication? sure there are plenty of wackjobs to hand this shit out to, but doesnt anyone use willpower? i suffer from a deplorable excess of explosive and often misplaced anger, which "should" have been attacked with medication. however i refused to let a chemical dictate my body, and with hardwork and time, i am overcoming it. and dont be so quick to buy into the whole "herbal" remedy shit. there is only one herb that anyone needs. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 5:04pm - overdosenow ""] ^^^^ looks like we got a Tom Cruise fan here. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 30,2005 11:20pm - Vomitthesoul ""] Well I was suicidal in my late teens. Im a suicidal failure I gotta have some help Got suicidal tendencies But I cant kill my self :doublehorns: |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 1:51am - anonymous ""] yea I gotta agree .you dont need meds. its really all in your head. I had them for years and once your ready to get off of them youll be fine. the mind is a terrible thing. be strong... |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 1:58am - Dissector ""] I'm on medication for Manic Depression/Bi-Polar but I don't even know what it is. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 31,2005 2:41am - eddie ""] Dissector said:I'm on medication for Manic Depression/Bi-Polar but I don't even know what it is. i dunno either but your mom sells them to me. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 9:05am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Sometimes I take ibuprofen for headaches. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 9:22am - Vomitthesoul ""] All of u that say I dont need meds,have u ever had severe depression? People who have never been on meds for depression or any other mental illness have no clue about the illness or what its like to take meds every day. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 9:24am - Joe/NotCommon ""] I worked in a pharmacy for years, and some people definately take medicine because they need it. On the other hand, alot of mothers don't want to raise their kids so they put them on meds. Those mothers are usually addicted to pain killers and I fucking hate their very existence. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 12:44pm - dreadkill ""] i had a conversation with someone a few months ago about anti-depressants and he was being retarded about it. he couldn't understand that some people have chemical imbalances that make them feel that way and that trying to will yourself to feel better won't make up for a chemical problem. he pretty much said that people need to grow up and deal with it and he never had any problems with depression. until you have a problem like that, you really have no idea how to handle it. that guy just didn't get it. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 12:56pm - Dissector ""] dreadkill said:i had a conversation with someone a few months ago about anti-depressants and he was being retarded about it. he couldn't understand that some people have chemical imbalances that make them feel that way and that trying to will yourself to feel better won't make up for a chemical problem. he pretty much said that people need to grow up and deal with it and he never had any problems with depression. until you have a problem like that, you really have no idea how to handle it. that guy just didn't get it. I felt the exact same way your friend felt at first. I thought personality disorders and shit like that were jsut bogus. Until one event led me to go to the doctor and he said that I do have a chemical imbalance. So now I'm eating my own words. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 1:52pm - BlackoutRick ""] Son the doctors have to be right? Don't you believe they're fuckin salesmen in disguise and in cahoots with insurance and pharmaceutical companies? They're fuckin coming up with bogus ailments and the whole country believes they need these pills help with these ailments. America is fuckin strung out!!! When I was young, I never saw fuckin commercials for fuckin Zoloft and fuckin Prozac!!! What the fuck is going on here?!?!? Wake the fuck up and take responsibility!! |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 1:57pm - Dr. Sludge ""] I found the best anti-depressant/anti-anxiety med to be Effexor which is a SNRI (serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor). Zoloft and Wellbutrin just didnt cut it for me. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 1:59pm - Dr. Sludge ""] BlackoutRick said:Son the doctors have to be right? Don't you believe they're fuckin salesmen in disguise and in cahoots with insurance and pharmaceutical companies? They're fuckin coming up with bogus ailments and the whole country believes they need these pills help with these ailments. America is fuckin strung out!!! When I was young, I never saw fuckin commercials for fuckin Zoloft and fuckin Prozac!!! What the fuck is going on here?!?!? Wake the fuck up and take responsibility!! Sounds like a hippy conspiracy. :middlefinger: |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 2:53pm - dreadkill ""] BlackoutRick said:Son the doctors have to be right? Don't you believe they're fuckin salesmen in disguise and in cahoots with insurance and pharmaceutical companies? They're fuckin coming up with bogus ailments and the whole country believes they need these pills help with these ailments. America is fuckin strung out!!! When I was young, I never saw fuckin commercials for fuckin Zoloft and fuckin Prozac!!! What the fuck is going on here?!?!? Wake the fuck up and take responsibility!! i'm proof that these pills can work. since i started taking prozac, i feel less pissed off all the time, less hopeless, less stressed out, and less anxious. i'm sleeping better, i'm not worrying about everything, i'm not overanalyzing everything. if you want to think it was all in my head, you're welcome to your opinion, but i know i'll go right back to the way i used to feel if i get off the prozac. case in point: i was on paxil for a couple weeks in august. it made me feel great, but i couldn't bust my nut anymore, so i stopped taking it. there was a problem with my insurance, so i couldn't see the doctor and get a new prescription for a couple months. when i was on the paxil, i felt so much better. off it, i was just as miserable as i was before. on prozac now, feeling better. i think finally admitting to myself that i needed help dealing with my problem and realizing i couldn't completely handle things myself was a great example of waking the fuck up and taking responsibility. you are welcome to disagree. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 3:10pm - dreadedsilence ""] Joe/NotCommon said:Sometimes I take ibuprofen for headaches. me too, man. i feel your pain |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 3:11pm - Vomitthesoul ""] dreadkill said:BlackoutRick said:Son the doctors have to be right? Don't you believe they're fuckin salesmen in disguise and in cahoots with insurance and pharmaceutical companies? They're fuckin coming up with bogus ailments and the whole country believes they need these pills help with these ailments. America is fuckin strung out!!! When I was young, I never saw fuckin commercials for fuckin Zoloft and fuckin Prozac!!! What the fuck is going on here?!?!? Wake the fuck up and take responsibility!! i'm proof that these pills can work. since i started taking prozac, i feel less pissed off all the time, less hopeless, less stressed out, and less anxious. i'm sleeping better, i'm not worrying about everything, i'm not overanalyzing everything. if you want to think it was all in my head, you're welcome to your opinion, but i know i'll go right back to the way i used to feel if i get off the prozac. case in point: i was on paxil for a couple weeks in august. it made me feel great, but i couldn't bust my nut anymore, so i stopped taking it. there was a problem with my insurance, so i couldn't see the doctor and get a new prescription for a couple months. when i was on the paxil, i felt so much better. off it, i was just as miserable as i was before. on prozac now, feeling better. i think finally admitting to myself that i needed help dealing with my problem and realizing i couldn't completely handle things myself was a great example of waking the fuck up and taking responsibility. you are welcome to disagree. I know what your going though. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 3:20pm - SacreligionNLI ""] stupid |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 8:11pm - BlackoutRick ""] I guess it's opinion. I just don't agree with it. I believe people escape their problems by dulling their brains. It's life, man. Turn and face the problems. Don't run. Yeah, dealing with life sucks and is fuckin rough at times but that is what it's all about. "It's our struggles that define us!" |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 8:30pm - Dissector ""] I don't have any problems. I'm not taking medication to escape problems. I'm Bi-polar so in nothing is really bothering me I just have fits of rage for absolutely no reason. One of these fits of rages got too far so I decided to do something about it. I'm not trying to run away from anything all the pills are doing for me is stopping random outbursts. I still get mad, I'm not like some kind of plastic doll or anything. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 8:43pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""] BlackoutRick said:I guess it's opinion. I just don't agree with it. I believe people escape their problems by dulling their brains. It's life, man. Turn and face the problems. Don't run. Yeah, dealing with life sucks and is fuckin rough at times but that is what it's all about. "It's our struggles that define us!" you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. thanks for contributing. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 31,2005 9:21pm - Dr. Sludge ""] BlackoutRick said:I guess it's opinion. I just don't agree with it. I believe people escape their problems by dulling their brains. It's life, man. Turn and face the problems. Don't run. Yeah, dealing with life sucks and is fuckin rough at times but that is what it's all about. "It's our struggles that define us!" It's not opinion. Until you have been through extended periods of depression, you really have no perspective on this issue. Its like saying you hate coffee when you've never had a cup of the stuff. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 1,2006 1:42am - Lamp ""] All I know is next time I see my counselor, I'm asking about these meds because I've been getting the same depressing feelings described in this thread lately, seriously. Getting so depressed you feel like you're going to puke or break down in tears for no reason sucks. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 1,2006 7:10am - nick ""] when you are comming off effexor it feels like people are shooting lasers in your brain. pretty crazy stuff. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 11:54am - BlackoutRick ""] Dr. Sludge said:BlackoutRick said:I guess it's opinion. I just don't agree with it. I believe people escape their problems by dulling their brains. It's life, man. Turn and face the problems. Don't run. Yeah, dealing with life sucks and is fuckin rough at times but that is what it's all about. "It's our struggles that define us!" It's not opinion. Until you have been through extended periods of depression, you really have no perspective on this issue. Its like saying you hate coffee when you've never had a cup of the stuff. Yeah, I guess I've never been depressed!!! Everyone has at sometime in their life. It's your body and mind telling you there is(are)something(s) wrong in your life and something has to be done (action) to solve it or them. It's all part of life and it has eveything to do with responsibility. I'm a fuckin addict(which is always under medical and social scrutiny) and I've been straight for six years. The first 2 years I was fuckin wicked depressed and I didn't take shit for it. The councilers in my half way house told me to suck it up and feel your pain. For two fuckin years I "suffered" anxiety attacks and all that other shit and I watched other people go through the same thing while popping some pill to ease them through it. In Recovery they call that "eating your booze." Don't get me wrong. I don't want to judge anyone and I don't want this to be a self-righteous rant. I am simply stating my opinion on the matter. To each his own. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 12:14pm - SacreligionNLI ""] yeah...life sucks ass...fuckin deal with it like the rest of us |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 12:30pm - BlackoutRick ""] HAHAHAHA!!! Thank you. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 1:16pm - dreadkill ""] all i'm saying is if you have some kind of chemical imbalance that causes overwhelming depression or bi-polar disorder or other such issues, you can't just deal with it. i think everyone in this thread who took responsibility and sought help was doing the best thing possible. these aren't happy pills that dull everything away. i was in a shitty mood on christmas. the pills can't stop that. if something bad happens, i still have a negative reaction. the pills don't make it so i don't care when something terrible happens to me or someone i care about. i think alot of people miss the point when it comes to medication. you can't possibly know what it's like until you experience it yourself. these pills aren't some government mind control conspiracy. i feel like infoterror found a way to infiltrate this thread. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 1:18pm - SacreligionNLI ""] yeah i was told i was chemically imblanced too and got put on that zoloft shit...it did nothing i'm fairly certain they're all placebos |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 1:18pm - SacreligionNLI ""] all psychiatrists/psychologists are fucking quacks |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 1:27pm - Sticky Icky ""] SacreligionNLI said:yeah i was told i was chemically imblanced too and got put on that zoloft shit...it did nothing i'm fairly certain they're all placebos Just because one med didnt work for you, doesnt mean theyre all placebos. How long were you on it? Did you take it every day? What dosage were you at? |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 1:44pm - SacreligionNLI ""] i wanna say i had to take either 100 or 150 mg everyday, and i took it for like 2-3 months before i realized it was a waste of time and energy and i didn't feel any different that's why i feel that they are placebos, there are other ways to feel happy other than listening to some guy tell you how your brain works and giving you his half-baked advice i also had to go to therapy for a while, and i went to two different doctors...and both were full of shit, just looking for anything "damaging" to latch onto so they could milk my family for all their money...also a waste of time and energy all in all, they're all full of shit, who the fuck in their right mind can make assumptions about how you think of things and how you live your life |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 1:57pm - Sticky Icky ""] I'll agree that therapists make $$$ off of suffering, but it actually works for some people. Some people cant just all of a sudden pull strength outta their ass. If you actually WORK with a therapist instead of being difficult and constantly cynical, you may learn how to find inner strength. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 2:20pm - dreadkill ""] some things don't work for some people. certain medicines work for certain people. i think i got lucky with my therapist. he's a really good guy and really helps me get things organized when i'm overwhelmed. i have friends with horror stories about therapists. some of them suck at their jobs, in fact, i imagine a lot of them suck, but there are good therapists out there and good drugs out there. the therapists aren't going to make anyone's life better. it's up to the person to apply the advice he or she thniks is valuable. not everything works for everyone. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 2:30pm - SacreligionNLI ""] dreadkill said:but there are good therapists out there and good drugs out there yes...yourself and pot :krusty: |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 2:31pm - SacreligionNLI ""] Sticky Icky said:you may learn how to find inner strength. is that something that really needs to be learned? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 2:35pm - Sticky Icky ""] If youre a weakling, yes. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 3:13pm - SacreligionNLI ""] tis a shame |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 3:20pm - SacreligionNLI ""] as a matter of fact, they should join an emo band and write a song about it |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 1,2006 5:36pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""] SacreligionNLI said:tis a shame You are absolutely the most ignorantly retarded person on this board at the moment. |