your thoughts on the Census[views:9609][posts:70]______________________________ [Apr 1,2010 10:45am - Yeti ""] the fact that they are saying "your response is required by law" is fucking bullshit. i'm not doing it, i don't care, come after me. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 10:46am - FuckIsMySignature ""] scare tactic. its all for funding. the more people who do it...supposedly the more money our state gets for funding services that are just gonna be cut anyways. broke country is broke. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:07am - arilliusbm ""] They used the census in the 40s to gather American japs and throw em in camps. Little fact they don't tell you. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:08am - Doomkid ""] Yeti said:the fact that they are saying "your response is required by law" is fucking bullshit. i'm not doing it, i don't care, come after me. The Constitution mandates a census you fucking retard. Get counted or screw your community's chance for state and federal funding. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:09am - Doomkid ""] It will also cost the federal government MORE if you don't fill it out. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:10am - arilliusbm ""] lol @ calling yeti a retard. He doesn't pay taxes either. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:12am - ouchdrummer ""] Doomkid said: Yeti said:the fact that they are saying "your response is required by law" is fucking bullshit. i'm not doing it, i don't care, come after me. The Constitution mandates a census you fucking retard. Get counted or screw your community's chance for state and federal funding. smoochie boochies |
| _________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:12am - Doomkid ""] I did lol after I noticed the OP was Yeti, since I don't generally consider him a retard. This behavior is pointless and dumb though. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:14am - FuckIsMySignature ""] i will be not filling out the census due to sheer laziness and apathy. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:14am - xmikex ""] I have mine filled out, in an envelop and unmailed for the last 3 weeks. If this shit was THAT important they'd figure out a way for me to do it online like everything else important (EXCEPT REGISTERING TO VOTE!!!) |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:18am - arilliusbm ""] It took me 2 seconds. I love the Latino / Negroe option. I mean, my major complaint is that YOU CAN'T DO IT ONLINE YET. IT'S 2010, WHAT THE FUCK?STILL WASTING PAPER, EH GOVT? WHY DONT YOU TAX US FOR NOT BEING GREEN, OH WAIT... |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:21am - FuckIsMySignature ""] not everyone has online access. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:22am - arilliusbm ""] Theres ways to find out who doesn't. Telepathically speaking, I thought you knew what I just posted. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:23am - the_reverend ""] aril is 50% right as usual. I forgot to do it last night.granted i didn't open it until coast night either.i will do it tonight.if you don't do it they waste more money sending someone to your house. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:23am - largefreakatzero ""] I returned mine. They could have done a better job promoting it though. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:23am - ouchdrummer ""] I think people don't wanna do stuff just because they should, and other people are doing it. You rebels. It takes 5minutes TOTAL, it really DOES help allocate funds, they're obviously not rounding up japs anymore.. but oh yeah, funding will PROBABLY get cut, so Why even bother trying to get it? If you don't fill out yours, AND send it back, you have no right to complain about the governments allocation of resources. Bottom line. Just like voting, if you don't do it, you have no right to complain about politics. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:23am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""] Universal internet access for all. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:35am - FuckIsMySignature ""] ouchdrummer said: If you don't fill out yours, AND send it back, you have no right to complain about the governments allocation of resources. Bottom line. Just like voting, if you don't do it, you have no right to complain about politics. i have every right to complain about everything. much like voting, the census will do nothing to provide a positive affect on my standard of living. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:38am - ouchdrummer ""] right, especially if you DON'T FILL IT OUT. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:43am - arilliusbm ""] ITT: Be a good American citizen or GTFO |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:44am - the_reverend ""] it's part of the constitution. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:45am - FuckIsMySignature ""] i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:48am - RustyPS ""] xmikex said:I have mine filled out, in an envelop and unmailed for the last 3 weeks. If this shit was THAT important they'd figure out a way for me to do it online like everything else important (EXCEPT REGISTERING TO VOTE!!!)I think this was a sarcastic comment, but in all seriousness, the amount of money the government would save by making the Census and voter registration online in paper and ink alone would be huge EDIT: stopped at the quoted post before I read the rest of the thread...already discussed topic was already discussed |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:50am - arilliusbm ""] FIMS, read Jesse venturas new book. It's awesome. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:51am - FuckIsMySignature ""] i'll have to pick it up... i been meaning to check out the show too but i dont know how to find it |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:52am - arilliusbm ""] The show was pretty decent. Some episodes were meh but some were great. They renewed it for another season too. |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 11:53am - FuckIsMySignature ""] is it on Discovery channel? |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 12:06pm - ouchdrummer ""] FuckIsMySignature said:i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now. i have little more faith in it that you do. But if you don't do things like this, how can you expect it to improve? IE: Hey our band sucks dick, people always say that we're sloppy when they see us play. I KNOW My band members don't practice, so why should I? Our bands gonna suck anyways? You see? that logic just doesn't work, and yes that analogy is SORT OF relevant. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 12:08pm - xmikex ""] FuckIsMySignature said:not everyone has online access. www.holladaddy.com You've got to get pretty close to the bottom of the barrel to find people without some kind of internetz these days. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 12:08pm - ouchdrummer ""] that's not true. I still know at least a half dozen decent people who don't have it. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 12:12pm - arilliusbm ""] FuckIsMySignature said:is it on Discovery channel? trutv |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 12:13pm - the_reverend ""] TEENAGE SUICIDE... DON'T DO IT |
| ________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 12:13pm - xmikex ""] ouchdrummer said:that's not true. I still know at least a half dozen white people who don't have it. Ran that through the racism filter. Hope you don't mind. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 12:54pm - arktouros ""] Filling it out where my car is registered. Lack of online submission is because they want your DNA from the paper. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:12pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] ouchdrummer said: FuckIsMySignature said:i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now. i have little more faith in it that you do. But if you don't do things like this, how can you expect it to improve? IE: Hey our band sucks dick, people always say that we're sloppy when they see us play. I KNOW My band members don't practice, so why should I? Our bands gonna suck anyways? You see? that logic just doesn't work, and yes that analogy is SORT OF relevant. all i know is that it would take MAJOR changes in government to bring back my confidence enough to even bother submitting my opinion. we are probably not gonna see eye to eye on this so lets just agree to disagree. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:14pm - Yeti ""] FuckIsMySignature said:i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now. bingo. that sums up a lot of the reasons why i don't give a flying fuck about this shit. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:15pm - ouchdrummer ""] i agree that you're an idiot. How about that, homo? |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:15pm - ouchdrummer ""] april fools, i love you. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:17pm - Yeti ""] arilliusbm said:lol @ calling yeti a retard. He doesn't pay taxes either. i pay the taxes i have no choice to pay. for example, i pay income tax every day, it's automatically taken out of my paycheck. i just don't file every year because i don't see the point. i have only broken even since i started working. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:21pm - Yeti ""] Doomkid said:I did lol after I noticed the OP was Yeti, since I don't generally consider him a retard. This behavior is pointless and dumb though. i don't disagree why people would think it's stupid to feel this way. i just have absolutely no faith in anything related to any government, so i don't care what happens. we are going to be fucked in the ass no matter what we do, so might as well make things difficult for them. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:27pm - Doomkid ""] What is your proposed alternate to government? When has any human society functioned without it? (I'm including more informal tribal hierarchies in my definition of government here) |
| __________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:30pm - arktouros ""] India is starting their first official census to get info on their 1,000,000,000+ population, they're going to try to collect photos and biometrics on everyone over 15. At least we don't need to submit biometrics. Tony, you do pay taxes, you file to get a refund for the income tax you've paid. I'm not saying you should file, but you're probably missing out on money that's yours. There's little chance you'll actually end up owing more. Everybody has different ideas about the government...your taxes are used for absolutely everything from paying local cops to buying AK-47s for corrupt SA militias...but for but federal money out there (from your taxes) that funds public works projects and they use the census to allocate it. Public works = roads, libraries, schools, infrastructure. So not filling out the census is like not voting. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:32pm - the_reverend ""] Yeti said: arilliusbm said:lol @ calling yeti a retard. He doesn't pay taxes either. i pay the taxes i have no choice to pay. for example, i pay income tax every day, it's automatically taken out of my paycheck. i just don't file every year because i don't see the point. i have only broken even since i started working. ITT, yeti goes to jail |
| __________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 1:34pm - arktouros ""] related - anybody see the new leaked CIA document? your tax dollars are also being used to manipulate NATO populations... http://file.wikileaks.org/file/cia-afghanistan.pdf 26. Mar. 2010: CIA report into shoring up Afghan war support in Western Europe, 11 Mar 2010 This classified CIA analysis from March, outlines possible PR-strategies to shore up public support in Germany and France for a continued war in Afghanistan. After the dutch government fell on the issue of dutch troops in Afghanistan last month, the CIA became worried that similar events could happen in the countries that post the third and fourth largest troop contingents to the ISAF-mission. The proposed PR strategies focus on pressure points that have been identified within these countries. For France it is the sympathy of the public for Afghan refugees and women. For Germany it is the fear of the consequences of defeat (drugs, more refugees, terrorism) as well as for Germany's standing in the NATO. The memo is an recipe for the targeted manipulation of public opinion in two NATO ally countries, written by the CIA. It is classified as Confidential / No Foreign Nationals. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 2:08pm - arilliusbm ""] Repost. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 1,2010 3:13pm - Yeti ""] after doing my own research, i have to rescind my previous statements of not doing the census, i am a strong supporter of all things Constitutional, and as Doomkid pointed out, it is in there. I can't pick and choose what i will follow even if it goes against what i believe. however i do stand by my issues with the personal information they "require". why are my name and phone number necessary? they already have it, why do i need to keep reporting to the government? |
| __________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 3:16pm - arktouros ""] yeh,i'm not putting my name and phone number. Name they have, phone they can get if they wanted to, but you know. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 1,2010 3:17pm - xmikex ""] ouchdrummer said:i agree that you're an idiot. How about that, homo? lulzy. :spineyes: |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 1,2010 3:18pm - arilliusbm ""] Because the government is compartmentalized. The left doesn't know what th right hand is doing. And the CIA runs it all and controls various aspects of the government. You really want to know what's going on? Meet me in a smokey car at a show to find out more. no homo. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 1,2010 3:19pm - Yeti ""] arktouros said:yeh,i'm not putting my name and phone number. Name they have, phone they can get if they wanted to, but you know. i wonder though, is filling out the form "all or nothing"? |