High School student pwnds bill o'reilly[views:9803][posts:72]______________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 2:54am - the_reverend ""] I love when o'reilly's wrong and then denies that he is. that dick sucks bennyhillifier |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 3:15am - ArrowHead is watching you ""] hahahaha, what a fucking douche. Not only was he wrong, but he never even acknowledges the kid's point. He just back pedals, and accuses the kid of taking his own quote out of context after he himself just completely took the playwright's quote out of context. What an asshat. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 3:19am - demondave ""] The only thing he could do to retort is call the kid a "pinhead" |
| ______________________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 3:19am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] The guy has always been a fraudulent piece of shit from his days working on Hard Copy (which he won one, no wait two no...umm actually he wasn't working for them when they won those Pulitzers...I mean that single Peabody Award). And I love how he immediately goes for the victim angle with the other kid when Lange puts him in his place. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 7:27am - Doomwhore ""] elohel @ hyper-partisan media. I can't believe people pay for cable. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 7:06pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] I respect that Jesse kid more than Bill. Bill resorted to name calling instead of making valid points. Kudos to the high school kids. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 24,2007 7:16pm - yummy ""] that's Bill O'Reilly for ya. He'll never give anyone the benefit of the doubt or credit for making a good point when it opposes his train of thought. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 7:56pm - FleshFries ""] http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 8:49pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] "Jesse, you oughta read that book, it'll be very educational for you." - "I have read it, Bill." definitly pwnd |
| _____________________________ [Jun 24,2007 8:52pm - pam ""] My only hope in life is to live to see someone kill Bill O'Reilly. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 24,2007 9:19pm - the_reverend ""] I've listened to his show and he carries a gun (or so he claims). |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 3:34pm - HailAtWork ""] awesome...taken down by a 16 year old high school student. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 6:18pm - xmikex ""] meh. i'm not a huge oreilly fan, but I don't think that kid owned anyone. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 6:31pm - hooker nibbling penis ""] oriely owned himself. he sounds like a complete fool. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 8:36pm - the_reverend ""] I'm listening to his show. anyone (especially when they are right) who disagrees with him gets cut off and called a cool-aid drinker. then someone calls up to agree with him and the person sounds like an unaticulate hick. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 8:58pm - Kinslayer ""] xmikex said:meh. i'm not a huge oreilly fan, but I don't think that kid owned anyone. Thank you. This kid doesn't own him in the slightest. He's well prepared with his little transcript and the fact he was informed prior to going on the Factor that BO himself mentions drug use in his book but as usual, it's taken out of context. Read his book and tell me it condones drugs and then read the transcript from Joel Becker and tell me BO is over reacting... I mean, I'm no god loving idiot but I'm not a cool aid drinking, lefty pussy either. I dont want a gay, hollywood screenwriter telling my 14 year old kid to masterbate more often, have sex but "do it safely!" and to use drugs ...sorry; not a cool audience speaker for my kids. "In today’s world, I’m understanding also that girls have become the aggressor. So I’ve had patients who have had 13 or 14 year old boys in high school, and they’ve been very worried about the girls, the girls who want another notch in their belt for how many boys they’ve performed oral sex on. I think that’s having sexual, I mean emotional, consequences for the boys also. " "I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately," "Why I am going to take that position is because you are going to do it anyway," he continued. "I think as a psychologist and health educator, it is more important to educate you in a direction that you might actually stick to. So, I am going to stay mostly on with the sex side because that is the area I know more about. I want to encourage you to all have healthy, sexual behavior." http://www.bvsdwatch.org/content/view/91/1/ |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 10:14pm - the_reverend ""] did I just read that right? now that's not irony.. but that other thing that people call irony when they really mean something else. it's also funny that you said some about coolaid. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 11:03pm - Conservationist ""] The kid is an idiot. Oreilly probably is as well (Irish) |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 26,2007 11:23pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2KU02lsfH8 probably a repost, but fucking incredible nonetheless |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 10:56am - Josh_Martin ""] Kinslayer said:xmikex said:meh. i'm not a huge oreilly fan, but I don't think that kid owned anyone. Thank you. This kid doesn't own him in the slightest. He's well prepared with his little transcript and the fact he was informed prior to going on the Factor that BO himself mentions drug use in his book but as usual, it's taken out of context. Read his book and tell me it condones drugs and then read the transcript from Joel Becker and tell me BO is over reacting... I mean, I'm no god loving idiot but I'm not a cool aid drinking, lefty pussy either. I dont want a gay, hollywood screenwriter telling my 14 year old kid to masterbate more often, have sex but "do it safely!" and to use drugs ...sorry; not a cool audience speaker for my kids. You have problems with masturbation, safe sex, and recreational drugs? You must be the life of the party. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:00am - c. dagger (aka Kinslayer) ""] I have a problem with a faggot, hollywood hipster lecturing my 15 year old kid on sex and drugs, yeah... I have sex and use drugs but that's not the point; the point is that it wasn't an appropriate assembly for highschool kids and the parents that are pissed have every right to be pissed... |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:13am - Josh_Martin ""] I like this Sanho Tree guy. " I believe, first of all, that the drug war has failed. It hasn’t worked, it isn’t going to work and we need to find alternative solutions that minimize the harms caused by these drugs as well as the harms caused by the war on drugs which, in my opinion, now exceed the harms caused by the drugs themselves " |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:20am - Josh_Martin ""] How does being a psychology professor at UCLA make one a faggot Hollywodd hipster? The only one of those guys who was a performing artist faggot was only telling kids to stay in school. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:22am - FuckIsMySignature ""] They should work on developing a pill that makes you sober when necessary. That way you can take any kinda fuckin drug or alcoholic drink you want and when you need to do something responsible like drive a car or just not get arrested you'll be fine. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:25am - the_reverend ""] Josh, you have to understand that andy listens and follows jay severin, o'riely, michael grahm and others on 96.9. that should explain his views to you. I'm just curious why he's not talking about crimaliens or judas greg. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:28am - Josh_Martin ""] I think that whole lecture was awesome. Its about time schools started educating kids about sex and drugs in a realistic way. The "Drugs are bad mmmkay" approach is pure idiocy and the abstinence is best approach to sex doesn't work either. Nothing wrong with telling kids the truth about sex and drugs. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:31am - Josh_Martin ""] the_reverend said:Josh, you have to understand that andy listens and follows jay severin, o'riely, michael grahm and others on 96.9. that should explain his views to you. I'm just curious why he's not talking about crimaliens or judas greg. Oh. I don't get how people who do drugs can idolize assholes who would lock them up if given a chance. yaaay drug warriors. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 11:52am - tbone_r nli ""] Josh_Martin said:Kinslayer said:xmikex said:meh. i'm not a huge oreilly fan, but I don't think that kid owned anyone. Thank you. This kid doesn't own him in the slightest. He's well prepared with his little transcript and the fact he was informed prior to going on the Factor that BO himself mentions drug use in his book but as usual, it's taken out of context. Read his book and tell me it condones drugs and then read the transcript from Joel Becker and tell me BO is over reacting... I mean, I'm no god loving idiot but I'm not a cool aid drinking, lefty pussy either. I dont want a gay, hollywood screenwriter telling my 14 year old kid to masterbate more often, have sex but "do it safely!" and to use drugs ...sorry; not a cool audience speaker for my kids. You have problems with masturbation, safe sex, and recreational drugs? You must be the life of the party. hahaha. i think the kid in the tie made a better argument than bill but i agree with mike it wasn't an 'owning.' I actually watched the first two o'reilly factors addressing this issue, but i'd need to read the transcript of the assembly to have a real opinion on whether or not it was inappropriate. However, i would rather have a speaker tell the truth about sex/drugs and ways to do them responsibly than someone just lie to them about it. Perhaps having speakers on both sides and have it strictly for seniors (who are going to be on their own in college) would be more appropriate. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 12:00pm - the_reverend ""] I just like when bill's is wrong and then he just cuts off the person with a different view point. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 12:40pm - Kinslayer (aka c.dagger) ""] I don't like Michael Graham, really... Severin I think is funny but I do agree with him on many issues. Bill Oreilly I think is just every lefty's favorite person to hate out of ignorance next to Bush but when given the proper chance, most will find that he is always right...Bush on the other hand is a douche. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 12:54pm - thegreatspaldino ""] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWDVpSUXHeM&mode=related&search= even snoop hates this pompous asshole |
| _____________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:10pm - ZJD ""] Kinslayer said:I don't like Michael Graham, really... Severin I think is funny but I do agree with him on many issues. Bill Oreilly I think is just every lefty's favorite person to hate out of ignorance next to Bush but when given the proper chance, most will find that he is always right...Bush on the other hand is a douche. Most people I know who care enough to hate Bill O'Reilly know his views/attitude/etc. very well and are politically concious. Whether or not they agree with you/Bill, I don't think I'd call them ignorant. Is that what you mean? Also, when has Bill ever been right? I can't imagine even his most ardent supporters saying he's always right. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:40pm - timjohn ""] this just in: bill o'reilly is a douche bag. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:45pm - the_reverend ""] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_yMT5V8SI&mode=related&search= |
| __________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:47pm - timjohn ""] there seems to be an endless deluge of vids proving the fact that he is a narcissistic wanker |
| __________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:50pm - timjohn ""] the_reverend said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_yMT5V8SI&mode=related&search= already posted in this thread ;-). absolutely horrendous and completely out of line for him not to apologize after the second time he made the error. and then for the news syndicating sites to allow an edit to the transcripts is possibly even worse - I wonder how much of a contribution from FOX they required to do something as slimy and deceitful as edit transcripts of a news broadcast |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:53pm - the_reverend ""] oh, I'm in a meeting and can't look at things like that right now. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:53pm - the_reverend ""] er.. I mean in training. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 1:54pm - xmikex ""] All I want to know is who dropped a fudge dragon in the urinal. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 2:57pm - timjohn ""] tim o'reilly > bill o'reilly |
| _____________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:02pm - pam ""] c. dagger said:I have a problem with a faggot, hollywood hipster lecturing my 15 year old kid on sex and drugs, yeah... I have sex and use drugs but that's not the point; the point is that it wasn't an appropriate assembly for highschool kids and the parents that are pissed have every right to be pissed... Did you read the transcript? You can't really say whether it's appropriate or not if you didn't. I didn't either, but I'm not taking Bill's word on it over one quote he pulled out and harped on, like he ALWAYS does. And you do and glorify coke more than anyone I have ever met...so you have to expect no one to take your disapproval here to heart. I can't figure out how you can respect these conservative shitheads and do drugs, listen to satanic black metal and be pretty much what conservatives hate. Merely hating blacks and gays does not a conservative make. You sir, confuse me. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:09pm - timjohn ""] pam said:c. dagger said:I have a problem with a faggot, hollywood hipster lecturing my 15 year old kid on sex and drugs, yeah... I have sex and use drugs but that's not the point; the point is that it wasn't an appropriate assembly for highschool kids and the parents that are pissed have every right to be pissed... Did you read the transcript? You can't really say whether it's appropriate or not if you didn't. I didn't either, but I'm not taking Bill's word on it over one quote he pulled out and harped on, like he ALWAYS does. And you do and glorify coke more than anyone I have ever met...so you have to expect no one to take your disapproval here to heart. I can't figure out how you can respect these conservative shitheads and do drugs, listen to satanic black metal and be pretty much what conservatives hate. Merely hating blacks and gays does not a conservative make. You sir, confuse me. pwned silly :LOL: |
| _____________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:12pm - pam ""] I'm not trying to "pwn" him. Just saying he confuses me. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:14pm - RichHorror ""] I love that people are arguing over something when they didn't read the transcript of the event in question. |
| _____________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:18pm - pam ""] Full Transcript |
| _____________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:19pm - pam ""] Joel Becker: Hi. My name is Joel Becker, and I’m a clinical psychologist. I’m going to ducktail off a little bit of what Andee said, but I think I’m going to go in a little bit of a different direction, because I’m going to encourage you to have sex, and I’m going to encourage you to use drugs appropriately. (applause and cheering from audience) And why I’m going to take that position is because you’re going to do it anyway. So, my, my approach to this is to be realistic, and I think as a psychologist and a health educator, it’s more important to educate you in a direction that you might actually stick to. So I want to, I’m going to stay mostly today talking about the sex side, because that’s the area I know more about. I want to encourage you to all have healthy sexual behavior. Now what is healthy sexual behavior? Well, I don’t care if it’s with men and men, women and women, men and women, however, whatever combination you would like to put together. But I think that we know enough about what constitutes healthy sexual behavior to think about it along two lines. One is, the issue of health and disease. So all the information that you can get about the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases, you should have. And then we should be realistic about what you are actually going to stick to, and what you are not. We were handed this survey that was done here at the high school, and one very shocking statistic that came to me was, and actually the people that compiled it missed something here, there was a question ‘have you had sex?’ and 33 percent of the respondents, and I guess this goes all the way from the ninth grade to the twelfth grade so we’d expect it to be lower in the ninth grade, higher in the twelfth grade, 33 percent, so a third of you copped to having sex. How many were under the influence of drugs or alcohol when you had sex? Eight. That would be 8 of the 15, which is actually more than 50 percent, because they saw it was what percent of the total, its over 50 percent of you who are having sex are having sex under the influence of alcohol and drugs. If you look at the AIDS transmission literature, this is a major route of transmission. People having sex under the influence because you get careless, and you get sloppy. (laughter from audience) So that’s very important to look at that relationship between those two variables. So, what else do I mean by having healthy sexual behavior? I think that we also want to have a definition of healthy sexual behavior as sexual behavior that is appropriate to your level of emotional development. Now what does that mouthful mean? Well, I’m not sure that ninth graders, tenth graders, eleventh graders, and twelfth graders are all exactly equal, in fact I’m fairly sure you’re not, in your level of emotional development in terms of what you can handle. And if you think that having sex doesn’t come with feelings, that’s where you’re mistaken. Sex does come with having feelings, and that’s what you have to have to be prepared for. I’m going to come back to that in a second, but I also just want to just comment on, you know, I’ve been told that this is a very liberal high school, and I’m probably speaking to the choir by encouraging you to have healthy sexual behavior because most of your parents probably have given you similar views, but you know, when you are 13, 12, 13, 14, certainly one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. (laughter from audience) Masturbate. Please masturbate. Now, if any of you have been told, and one of the problems that we have right now is that religious communities are trying to give us information and sometimes that information isn’t correct. So I went to a very interesting panel this morning, and I just reference the story of Onan. You know that the sin of masturbation is the sin of onanism? Does anyone know what that Bible story was? Well, where it came from I found out today, was that you know these people were all Jewish because this was the Old Testament, and in the Jewish law, when a man dies, his brother automatically becomes the woman’s husband, so the brother inherits his brother’s wife and becomes father to that brother’s children. Well there was this one very wicked man named Onan, and Onan was evil in the following way: he had sex with his brother’s wife but he refused to make her pregnant because he was evil and it was a woman’s right to get pregnant, and instead, he spilled his seed on the ground. How they got from there to there, that that meant that masturbation is not okay, no one seems to be able to figure out, but that’s where it came from. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, and it doesn’t even address the issue of masturbation in women. So, it’s not a sin to masturbate in my world. So, lets go back again to the issue of developmental, emotional development, and what you can handle. I’m going to reference right now a famous article by a guy I don’t reference much, whose name was Sigmund Freud. Ever hear of him? Okay. Well, Sigmund Freud, for which we’ve actually proven most of what he said was untrue, so you’ll know that, but he happened to write this paper in 1923 that had the following title, “The Psychological Consequences of the Anatomical Distinctions Between the Sexes.” Let’s interpret that. In other words, how is your reaction to intimacy or sex different based on the layout of your sexual organs? Where’s a woman’s sexual organs? Inside her body. Where’s a boy’s sexual organs? Outside his body. (laughter from audience) We’ve got a set-up here, if you take a look at this. In order for a girl to have sex, she makes herself vulnerable, she “opens herself up to the male” and inevitably, feelings follow that. So girls, this is really tough for you. Boys don’t have that reaction. Their sex organs are outside their body, we older people make jokes and say teenage boys will stick their you-know-what in a melon, (laughter from audience) I mean, that’s about as much feeling as they need to have for the object. (laughter from audience) And after it’s over, it can be as meaningless as you could imagine. So you have to all be prepared for those differences between the two of you. In today’s world, I’m understanding also that girls have become the aggressor. So I’ve had patients who have had 13 or 14 year old boys in high school, and they’ve been very worried about the girls, the girls who want another notch in their belt for how many boys they’ve performed oral sex on. I think that’s having sexual, I mean emotional, consequences for the boys also. So what I’m saying here, and then I’ll wrap up, I encourage you to have a healthy sex life that is both responsible and appropriate for what you can handle emotionally. Thank you. (applause and cheering from audience) |
| _________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:21pm - Anthony ""] it's fo tweny niggaz |
| _____________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:21pm - pam ""] HAH! This is basically the sex ed issue. Idiots want abstinence only, while smart people want safe sex education. Same fucking argument, and I'm with this guy. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:32pm - d.cead ""] Black Metal does not adhere to left wing politics, sorry. and ummm....I posted a link tot he whole transcript like.....28 posts above yours. |
| _____________________________ [Jun 27,2007 4:40pm - pam ""] Black metal is the antithesis of conservative morals and views. Period. I never said it fit in ANY politics, so I'm not sure what your point is. You can like what you want, I'm just pointing out the irony that you're an O'Reilly fan when he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. And the fact that you DID read that and still think he's going to influence kids to do drugs makes even less sense. I suppose teaching high school kids safe sex is going to make them fuck everything that moves, too, right? Better to pretend no ones fucking or doing drugs than teach them how to be as safe as possible, right? Same logic. Think what you want, I just disagree. |