EMI to stop selling records to indie stores[views:14830][posts:75]____________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 3:07pm - Beorht-Dana ""] I guess it depends on what you mean by indie. They do have like 26 locations in New England but the company is privately owned. After reading that stark magazine response article I don't think it will have any effect on NC. It'll suck for the real hole-in-the-wall type places though. |
| ____________________________ [Aug 4,2009 3:13pm - |an ""] 26 locations is definitely some serious volume. That would be a seriously dick move. TBH, most hole in the wall places I knew the owners of were dying for at least the last 10 years, and most owners closed up shop and moved to internet sales of vinyl. Sad, but probably smart. Too bad they couldn't hold out, vinyl seems to be making a comeback, albeit at slightly ridiculous prices. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 3:19pm - brian_dc ""] only slightly ridiculous...the logic is re-sale value is amazing on a lot of vinyl....I buy my records to listen to, though. So it's annoying. |
| ____________________________ [Aug 4,2009 3:23pm - |an ""] Well, my reasoning led me to understand that the longer-format and higher-quality of recording these days necessitates multiple and better quality records, which is understandable. Also the artwork and packaging are of a much better quality, which is tops in my book. And, most decent labels include free mp3 downloads, another simple but brilliant advance. All in all, new-school vinyl rocks, but I still can't feel right about spending $25-30 on a record, that's like 5% of most people's weekly salaries. Ideally I'd be able to walk into a store and buy 2-3 records to last me the week, and a 12 pack for the weekend, and not feel horribly guilty about it. Hooray for inflation! |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 3:27pm - Beorht-Dana ""] Yeah vinyl is pretty expensive now but with the way sales of it are going right now I am pretty confident prices will drop as production increases. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 3:37pm - reimroc ""] Vinyl is just too damn expensive. I'm happy with CDs and I can always DL FLAC rips of vinyl if I really want it. |
| ____________________________ [Aug 4,2009 3:40pm - |an ""] Beorht-Dana said:Yeah vinyl is pretty expensive now but with the way sales of it are going right now I am pretty confident prices will drop as production increases. Heh, good luck with that. Record players are still pretty expensive, I think we'd need to see them make a bigger market proliferation to seriously impact the buying volume. But maybe I just haven't gone record player shopping enough lately, is this not the case? |
| _____________________________ [Aug 4,2009 7:46pm - Lamp ""] MillenialKingdom said: the_taste_of_cigarettes said: * Black Sabbath * Iron Maiden * Pink Floyd * Queen * Saxon * The Smashing Pumpkins Yea, these bands really suck, Lamp. SM: 10 You know, I wasn't going to touch this... but I would really like for you to explain to me why you think Smashing Pumpkins is actually good, and no I'm not being sarcastic either, I really am curious as to how someone can actually like that band. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 7:55pm - Martins ""] At least you didn't say Queen! |
| _____________________________ [Aug 4,2009 8:49pm - Lamp ""] I guess I can understand why people like Queen, it's just not my thing. |
| ________________________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 9:03pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Lamp said: MillenialKingdom said: the_taste_of_cigarettes said: * Black Sabbath * Iron Maiden * Pink Floyd * Queen * Saxon * The Smashing Pumpkins Yea, these bands really suck, Lamp. SM: 10 You know, I wasn't going to touch this... but I would really like for you to explain to me why you think Smashing Pumpkins is actually good, and no I'm not being sarcastic either, I really am curious as to how someone can actually like that band. Listen to Siamese Dream with headphones from beginning to end and you'll COMPLETELY understand. Also Gish was great. For a lot of us, this WAS what was available in Jr High / High School. This band was amongst the pantheon that were our important rock groups at the time. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 4,2009 9:11pm - Lamp ""] See... this is the mentality that I don't understand. Do you actually like bands you listened to back then or do you just listen to them for nostalgic value? When I was in junior high I pretty much listened to nothing but Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Eminem and the thought of listening to those bands for any reason gives me reactions ranging from nap time to puke time. I listened to a fair amount of stuff in high school I think sucks now too. I mean, do you really have to listen to something just because you listened to it when you were younger? There are other bands I feel helped shape my music tastes today that I just can't get into as much or even at all anymore. Maybe I'm just an ungrateful bastard... |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 9:19pm - goatcatalyst ""] I listened to Cinderella as a child. I listen to Cinderella as a man. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 9:55pm - darkwor ""] Siamese Dream is still as powerful as it was when I was 13 and getting boners while holding my girlfriend's hand. Seriously, that record is still intense. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 9:56pm - darkwor ""] But Nirvana, not quite so much. |
| _________________________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 10:21pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Lamp said:See... this is the mentality that I don't understand. Do you actually like bands you listened to back then or do you just listen to them for nostalgic value? When I was in junior high I pretty much listened to nothing but Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Eminem and the thought of listening to those bands for any reason gives me reactions ranging from nap time to puke time. I listened to a fair amount of stuff in high school I think sucks now too. I mean, do you really have to listen to something just because you listened to it when you were younger? There are other bands I feel helped shape my music tastes today that I just can't get into as much or even at all anymore. Maybe I'm just an ungrateful bastard... You listened to that stuff like I listened to Green Day. Green Day for me now is def a nostalgic thing. Siamese Dream has over 30 guitar parts on it. Billy Corgan wrote that entire album and played, to the best of my knowledge, every part on it (except the drums). It was during a period where he was a complete control freak and went down to every knob turn in the mixing and dictated how it should go. That album will definitely have books about it once everyone stops writing about Nirvana at some point this century. That said, it's a night-and-day difference. Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Eminem are what's refered to categorically as "hitmakers". They, debatebly, exist to simply chart (not counting the first Korn record which was actually awesome). Smashing Pumpkins spent a long time as a labor of love in an era when Sonic Youth, Nirvana, and more "artisically" sound bands were making record labels think it was ok to dump money and bands that would craft their music. In the end, it never paid as much as Britney Spears or Michael Jackson, but it was a bit of an experiment. I don't know if that answers your question, but maybe it gives you some info you didn't know. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 4,2009 10:28pm - RustyPS ""] darkwor said:Siamese Dream is still as powerful as it was when I was 13 and getting boners while holding my girlfriend's hand. Seriously, that record is still intense.A-FUCKING-MEN TO THAT! amazing record |
| _________________________________________________ [Aug 5,2009 12:03am - boblovesmusic@coolidge ""] goatcatalyst said:I listened to Cinderella as a child. I listen to Cinderella as a man. I didn't listen to Cinderella as a child, but you bet I listen to Cinderalla as a man! |
| ____________________________ [Aug 5,2009 7:46am - |an ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said: Listen to Siamese Dream with headphones from beginning to end and you'll COMPLETELY understand. Also Gish was great. For a lot of us, this WAS what was available in Jr High / High School. This band was amongst the pantheon that were our important rock groups at the time. This. Gish/SD were amazing albums. If you only like dirty 3 chord rock, I can see why you wouldn't get it. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 5,2009 8:00am - reim nli ""] Lamp said:I guess I can understand why people like Queen, it's just not my thing. My favorite rock group of all time. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 5,2009 9:50am - MillenialKingdom ""] Lamp said: MillenialKingdom said: the_taste_of_cigarettes said: * Black Sabbath * Iron Maiden * Pink Floyd * Queen * Saxon * The Smashing Pumpkins Yea, these bands really suck, Lamp. SM: 10 You know, I wasn't going to touch this... but I would really like for you to explain to me why you think Smashing Pumpkins is actually good, and no I'm not being sarcastic either, I really am curious as to how someone can actually like that band. They perfected Alternative Rock to the point where they put out some of the greatest albums of the 90's. Sure, Billy's voice isn't the best but it's about the arrangments he wrote. I've liked this band since I was like 9 years old and will continue to be a fan forever. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 5,2009 10:07am - XmikeX ""] darkwor said:13 and getting boners while holding my girlfriend's hand. If the Boston Globe could put together truths like that it wouldn't be going out of business. Solid LOlz |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 5,2009 11:34am - DestroyYouAlot ""] FWIW, I hated Smashing Pumpkins with a righteous fury when it showed up on the radio every five minutes, until the guitarist in my band at the time forced me to sit down and listen to the first two records. I get it, now (although it's still not something I'd listen to on my own, and the quality went in the crapper once he got rid of the band and it became the Biwwy Cowgan Expewience). |
| _____________________________ [Aug 5,2009 11:55am - |an ""] Understandable. Excess radio play usually makes me hate bands, especially since radio hits are generally not the most introspective material. FWIW though, the first time I saw "Today" on MTV I definitely shit myself and got their record that week. Haven't regretted that in 16 years. |
| _________________________________________________ [Aug 5,2009 12:55pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Every now and then a genuine good song / good band makes its way onto the radio. SEE: Kings of Leon, White Stripes, Black Keys, etc. I got so sick of every White Stripes single, that fucking Black Keys song (6 AM automatic or whatever) and "Molly's Room" or whatever the fuck that KoL first single was. Then I got their albums and these bands have genuine, incredible song writing talent. The White Stripes records became more and more in-tune with artistry and less blues albums, which was pretty rad. Kings of Leon's last record, BECAUSE OF THE TIMES, is so good I recommend everyone get it. And the Black Keys, holy shit...Dan Auerbach or whatever his name is...his solo record is the fucking bomb. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 5,2009 1:03pm - Pires ""] Lamp said: MillenialKingdom said: the_taste_of_cigarettes said: * Black Sabbath * Iron Maiden * Pink Floyd * Queen * Saxon * The Smashing Pumpkins Yea, these bands really suck, Lamp. SM: 10 You know, I wasn't going to touch this... but I would really like for you to explain to me why you think Smashing Pumpkins is actually good, and no I'm not being sarcastic either, I really am curious as to how someone can actually like that band. A-FUCKING-MEN TO THAT! I don't see how anyone can like the smashing pumpkins. Seriously, that band blows. But there are plenty of people who dig them here, so I'm in the minority. But man does it feel good. |