[Leaked] Revocation - Existence is Futile
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[Oct 12,2009 10:24am - spalding ""]
oh forget it, that would be wrong. sorry grandpa!
[Oct 12,2009 11:02am - Humor Police ""]
your arrested
[Oct 12,2009 4:04pm - archaeon ""]
If anyone on here didn't buy this they can go to hell.
[Oct 12,2009 4:07pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I got the shirt and the CD!
[Oct 12,2009 4:29pm - spalding ""]
Only steal music from non-RTTP bands, that's the only time it's OK.
[Oct 12,2009 4:33pm - RustyPS ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I got the shirt and the CD!WE KNOW!
[Oct 12,2009 5:08pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Post 3 pictures of yourself wearing the shirt with 3 different girls or it didn't happen.
PS I love this CD. Dave, you're a beautiful animal.
[Oct 12,2009 5:20pm - spaldino ""]
haha exactly... it would be pointless to post it here as i am sure half of this board had an advance copy and stuff.
[Oct 12,2009 5:27pm - Conservationist ""]
spaldino said:haha exactly... it would be pointless to post it here as i am sure half of this board had an advance copy and stuff.
There are some music reviewers who'd love an MP3 copy to look over.
[Oct 12,2009 5:46pm - spaldino ""]
its all over the web, you can find it easily.
i post up big name album leaks that i find and i'm usually first on here to know of the albums being leaked, seeing as that sometimes i wait a couple days after a leak and no one posts anything about it until i offer up a link.
I believe that downloading isnt as much of a crime as anyone makes it out to be. people getting sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars over a few songs is a crime. to be honest, and i have said it before, i would love to have my music downloaded thousands of times... it just means more people are likely to show up to a show and buy merch. you know... the real revenue generators for bands.
[Oct 12,2009 6:02pm - corpus_nli ""]
Long live Dino!
[Oct 12,2009 7:03pm - the_reverend ""]
spaldino said:its all over the web, you can find it easily.
i post up big name album leaks that i find and i'm usually first on here to know of the albums being leaked, seeing as that sometimes i wait a couple days after a leak and no one posts anything about it until i offer up a link.
I believe that downloading isnt as much of a crime as anyone makes it out to be. people getting sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars over a few songs is a crime. to be honest, and i have said it before, i would love to have my music downloaded thousands of times... it just means more people are likely to show up to a show and buy merch. you know... the real revenue generators for bands.
[Oct 12,2009 7:08pm - dertoxia ""]
spaldino said:its all over the web, you can find it easily.
i post up big name album leaks that i find and i'm usually first on here to know of the albums being leaked, seeing as that sometimes i wait a couple days after a leak and no one posts anything about it until i offer up a link.
I believe that downloading isnt as much of a crime as anyone makes it out to be. people getting sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars over a few songs is a crime. to be honest, and i have said it before, i would love to have my music downloaded thousands of times... it just means more people are likely to show up to a show and buy merch. you know... the real revenue generators for bands.
dude you've got the right attitude man. that's how it should be. bands should be honored that people would even want to listen to their music at all. Not sue their fans for trying to listen to their music. I think that bands should host free high-quality mp3's or even lossless audio from themselves so people don't have to resort to torrents or limewire. It's proving to work with the cable industry. just look at NBC and Hulu. You make sure that you're providing the best quality for free and that takes away any reason for people to use 'illegal' downloading. If people want the physical copy so they have an actual disc and artwork then make that available too...for a reasonable price, not $20. You make your $$ back from merch sales. I think people are more willing to actually go to shows and buy merch if they know the band and know they are realistic about the state of the music industry.
Sorry about the rant. It's just cool when bands get it and understand we're undergoing a musical revolution right now and evolve with it.
For example, and no i don't like radiohead at all, but what they did where they put their CD up for download and let people pay whatever they wanted. Pure genious. When we're talking virtual sales there's no risk like pressing actual discs. The difference between 10,000 downloads and 1,000,000 is basically nothing. So what if only half the people who download pay anything, you're no worse off. You make money and your fans are happy knowing they got their high quality music from the band itself and not off limewire.
[Oct 12,2009 7:19pm - metalguy_2 ""]
You are ALLLLL wrong :-) Music should be distributed how the artist feels is best. It isn't anybody else's job to tell an artist what his/her art is worth or should be sold for.
Nobody here would tell an artist on the street he should be giving out copies of his prints for free. So just because it is easy doesn't mean we have any more right to free anything than we would if it were some other piece of art.
I am in no way saying that I buy all my music. Because I don't buy my music at all anymore really. The only thing I am saying is that nobody has the right to tell a musician that he should be grateful that thousands of people are downloading there music. That is for them to decide.
[Oct 12,2009 7:28pm - metalguy_2 ""]
i am downloading it...
[Oct 12,2009 7:36pm - dertoxia ""]
i agree with you too. it should be up to the artist. and artists should look at what works and doesnt work. and charging insane prices and then suing people is proving to not work.
I think if left up to bands then overtime prices would drop and quality would go up. Seeing 15 minute long cd's selling for 22 dollars is almost insulting. From lookin at the underground scene it makes way more sense than what you see out of the big name labels. There's better and longer cd's sold at lower prices and bands that more understanding about music downloading.
I'm just sayin that times are changing and the big labels need to realize it.
[Oct 12,2009 7:39pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
The small labels are already adapting.
[Oct 12,2009 7:45pm - dertoxia ""]
good maybe sony and warner bros can take the hint
[Oct 12,2009 7:53pm - metalguy_2 ""]
I think it will eventually happen. As of the point where artists started to take people to court over it the battle was already lost.
It should have been a great incentive to change the way business was done, with the artist and the listener in mind. It is kind of a hard pill to swallow knowing that you don't have the same chokehold over the industry that you once had.
[Oct 12,2009 8:15pm - archaeon ""]
I'm at school for this shit so I'm going to rant. Anyone, who thinks that a band makes money off a purchase of their album from anyway other than directly from the band has a lot to learn about the business. Unless a band is selling 10,000+ records the band see's NOTHING from royalties (I'm sure someones going to find a counterpoint to this but you get the idea) and the numbers are even higher for major labels. There's fundamentally no point of purchasing unless you want to support that label or the store. Over 51% of music acquired is downloaded illegally and record labels are just start to catch on.
Record labels are still trying to get as much out of the 60 year old business model of a hard copy unit. I'm sure most labels are going to more so put out albums by digital download within the next ten years which means I won't be supporting them whatsoever.
DOWNLOAD MUSIC AND GO TO SHOWS/BUY MERCH.
/rant
[Oct 12,2009 9:00pm - the_reverend ""]
archaeon, way to quote steve albini's article the problem with the music industry.
http://www.negativland.com/albini.html
[Oct 12,2009 9:04pm - Martins ""]
MY BLACK ASS
[Oct 12,2009 9:11pm - Archaeon ""]
Thats in a book I read like a year ago. music is gay.
[Oct 12,2009 9:14pm - the_reverend ""]
you black ass it is
[Oct 12,2009 9:27pm - aril ""]
Jesus Christ d00d.
There is nothing better than actually owning a copy of the album. Downloading files does not compare to having the album itself, reading the booklet, looking at the art, etc.
[Oct 12,2009 9:30pm - Martins ""]
Oh, aril's right. lol duh!
Everyone gets the same high when they see a small plastic box with some colors on it and read some words inside said box. DUH!
[Oct 12,2009 9:30pm - Archaeon ""]
I know, Hence why I still buy albums I love for that value. But if someone is not going to check out a band because they can't afford to purchase their album and feels that it's wrong to download it. that's a different story.
[Oct 12,2009 9:34pm - aril ""]
I used to buy albums all the time. I had to sell almost my whole collection a few years back because I needed money. I still don't buy as many as I'd like (used to buy 5+ a week), so I DL the ones I'd think about buying.
But in all seriousness, owning a copy of an album you like far exceeds any pleasure of having it on a hard drive.
Sometimes though, I miss the joy of buying a CD for the sole reason of not knowing what it will sound like. The internet has been both good and bad for music.
[Oct 12,2009 9:34pm - RichHorror ""]
I only miss cassettes.
[Oct 12,2009 9:35pm - Martins ""]
Analog formats of listening to music > *
[Oct 12,2009 9:35pm - aril ""]
Cassettes and vinyls > CDs
[Oct 12,2009 9:36pm - Martins ""]
aril said:Cassettes and vinyls > CDs
repost
[Oct 12,2009 9:38pm - Asshole Police ""]
your arrested
[Oct 12,2009 9:47pm - Archaeon ""]
OMG YOU'RE
[Oct 12,2009 9:54pm - Martins ""]
arlolliusDP
[Oct 12,2009 10:00pm - Conservationist ""]
I buy albums.
After I've downloaded and heard them.
Landfill reduced massively!
This helped me avoid Opeth entirely.
[Oct 12,2009 10:01pm - ZenErik ""]
aril said:Cassettes and vinyls > CDs
Cannot agree with that. Depends how the album is mastered for each format, your setup, and personal preferences.
I run my music from my computer to a warm but detailed sounding DAC, tube headphone amp, and Sennheiser HD650s. In this case, the typical and unfounded arguments about how brittle and unnatural digital sounds do not apply.
There is one big advantage for analog formats though: infinite bitrate. But after a certain point not even the craziest of audiophiles will notice. Not even with a top of the line ridiculously analytical setup.
Anyway, carry on.
[Oct 12,2009 10:03pm - the_reverend ""]
the best thing to do for labels is make them collectible. vinyl with digital download is what I've been saying for years. You can even have the digital download be pre-released.
[Oct 12,2009 10:03pm - the_reverend ""]
conservationist will love my new band htepo.
[Oct 12,2009 10:24pm - Martins ""]
ZenErik said:
aril said:Cassettes and vinyls > CDs
Cannot agree with that. Depends how the album is mastered for each format, your setup, and personal preferences.
I run my music from my computer to a warm but detailed sounding DAC, tube headphone amp, and Sennheiser HD650s. In this case, the typical and unfounded arguments about how brittle and unnatural digital sounds do not apply.
There is one big advantage for analog formats though: infinite bitrate. But after a certain point not even the craziest of audiophiles will notice. Not even with a top of the line ridiculously analytical setup.
Anyway, carry on.
How much did you pay for all that? What are you running into the DAC? Surely you're not running the headphone out into the DAC... because then you'd be running a DAC into a DAC which wouldn't work.
[Oct 12,2009 10:32pm - ZenErik ""]
A lot. :P It's not even a super high end setup, but it's the best headphone setup I've ever listened to.
Surely I am not using the headphone output on my computer.
Here's the chain: MacBook, Firebox, Oritek DAC, WooAudio WA6 headphone tube amp, Sennheiser HD650s.
I use the coax output from the Firebox into the DAC.
[Oct 12,2009 10:37pm - Martins ""]
Haha, now it makes sense. Though, as an aspiring audiophile, I really don't think it's all necessary. I mean, it probably DOES sound amazing but that's not to say you couldn't get the same sound with less hardware and for cheaper. To each his own, though!
[Oct 12,2009 10:41pm - ZenErik ""]
That's what you think... Until you start spending. :D There's a HUGE difference between running my headphones through my Firebox and then running them through my whole rig. For one, the Firebox is far more fatiguing. Detailed but overblown and abrasive.
However, there is one thing that I DEFINITELY don't believe to make a difference. Boutique cables. Spending 300 dollars on cables is ridiculous. If the gauge of the cable is thick enough and well shielded, it doesn't matter what magic voodoo you heard it was created with.
[Oct 12,2009 10:44pm - BSV ""]
sold a few copies at my store in Shrewsbury. Still on sale for $9.99!!
[Oct 13,2009 12:02am - goatcatalyst ""]
At risk of the Repost Police making an Amadou Diallo of me...
I download everything. Shit I've never even heard of - much of it based on the recommendations, reviews, comparisons, etc of my favorite blogspots (which I regard as the new magazine / zine / MTV / source or whatever... just you wait for the launch of BEATINGSINTHENONTVROOM.BLOGSPOT.COM)
Being an impoverished whelp, I've come to view music as a meritocracy and I'll buy about 3 or 4 CDs a month. Be good enough to make me want to own your shit and make your presentation / imagery / lyrics / aesthetic / packaging to the point where I'll desire it over the other shit I'm also digging.
Case in point - the new Portal album that just leaked. In case karma isn't just a faggot nigger hippie thing, I'm not going to post the link.
Wink wink nudge nudge
[Oct 13,2009 8:23am - RustyPS ""]
goatcatalyst said:I download everything. Shit I've never even heard of - much of it based on the recommendations, reviews, comparisons, etc of my favorite blogspots (which I regard as the new magazine / zine / MTV / source or whatever... just you wait for the launch of BEATINGSINTHENONTVROOM.BLOGSPOT.COM)
http://abovethecloudsbelowtheheavens.blogspot.com
[Oct 13,2009 8:37am - aril ""]
ZenErik said:
aril said:Cassettes and vinyls > CDs
Cannot agree with that. Depends how the album is mastered for each format, your setup, and personal preferences.
the artwork, packaging, and whole concept of vinyl alone > cd. It's better to not flick through tracks with the click of a button. Of course CDs are great and all, but vinyl is just a better experience.
[Oct 13,2009 8:42am - Martins ""]
ZenErik said:That's what you think... Until you start spending. :D There's a HUGE difference between running my headphones through my Firebox and then running them through my whole rig. For one, the Firebox is far more fatiguing. Detailed but overblown and abrasive.
However, there is one thing that I DEFINITELY don't believe to make a difference. Boutique cables. Spending 300 dollars on cables is ridiculous. If the gauge of the cable is thick enough and well shielded, it doesn't matter what magic voodoo you heard it was created with.
Well, let's see. If the bitrate of your DAC is faster than the bitrate of the file you're listening to, there's no benefit in terms of more accurate recreation of the music. I would assume, though, that you already have your music collection in some sort of lossless format, in which case you might even need a faster DAC. Your DAC (though I don't know anything about dedicated audio DACs) probably has some sort of output filter - something the Firebox wouldn't have - that would explain the difference between the two... but that's not to say that it's staying true to the recording.
Cables, though, do have some significance. A shitty cable will have high resistance per unit length ratios, high inductance, high capacitance, and poor shielding, resulting in EMI and crosstalk. These factors can significantly change the sound and tonality of signal being sent. A good cable will have low resistance, low inductance, low capacitance, low crosstalk, and good shielding. These numbers usually matter at long lengths but depending on the cable used, can matter at short lengths too. In fact, in most industrial applications, the cable is one of the most important pieces of the system. Bad cable can mean bad system.
[Oct 13,2009 8:44am - ZenErik ""]
I can easily agree with the packaging and artwork generally being superior on vinyl, but that has nothing to do with the sound. :D
Someday I will probably get a turntable. Just as a music fan, it would be nice to have. I need to do my research first.
[Oct 13,2009 8:49am - Martins the 7th grade music teacher ""]
Lolz kids. Listen up and do your homework or you're expelled from my music class