[Leaked] Revocation - Existence is Futile[views:8844][posts:80]_________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 8:52am - Martins ""] I don't get it. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 8:54am - ZenErik ""] Martins said: ZenErik said:That's what you think... Until you start spending. :D There's a HUGE difference between running my headphones through my Firebox and then running them through my whole rig. For one, the Firebox is far more fatiguing. Detailed but overblown and abrasive. However, there is one thing that I DEFINITELY don't believe to make a difference. Boutique cables. Spending 300 dollars on cables is ridiculous. If the gauge of the cable is thick enough and well shielded, it doesn't matter what magic voodoo you heard it was created with. Well, let's see. If the bitrate of your DAC is faster than the bitrate of the file you're listening to, there's no benefit in terms of more accurate recreation of the music. I would assume, though, that you already have your music collection in some sort of lossless format, in which case you might even need a faster DAC. Your DAC (though I don't know anything about dedicated audio DACs) probably has some sort of output filter - something the Firefox wouldn't have - that would explain the difference between the two... but that's not to say that it's staying true to the recording. Cables, though, do have some significance. A shitty cable will have high resistance per unit length ratios, high inductance, high capacitance, and poor shielding, resulting in EMI and crosstalk. These factors can significantly change the sound and tonality of signal being sent. A good cable will have low resistance, low inductance, low capacitance, low crosstalk, and good shielding. These numbers usually matter at long lengths but depending on the cable used, can matter at short lengths too. In fact, in most industrial applications, the cable is one of the most important pieces of the system. Bad cable can mean bad system. The bitrate of my DAC is currently set to be the same as CD quality. However, there ARE benefits to DACs with higher bitrates. CDs, being digital, mean you have to connect the dots. A higher bitrate will put dots between those original dots and create a smoother sound. :spineyes: Just like upscaling DVDs. It's not to say that it's a significant difference to most, but it IS a difference. Some DACs are warmer and smoother and sacrifice a little detail. Some are very detailed and analytical. Less bass. To be honest, if DACs were PERFECT, they should technically all sound the same. Same with amps. But what's wrong with your setup coloring the sound a little? The main reason I went with a tube amp was the naturally warmer sound and also because tube amps use odd order harmonics. With solid state amps creating even harmonics, they should technically be more dissonant. Is this noticeable? Subjective. My setup uses all monoprice cables, and they do a fantastic job. They're all 1 1/2 - 3 feet and more than thick enough. Maybe you should take a look at tests done using coat hangers as cables. Boutique cables are rubbish. Pretty but rubbish. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 8:55am - ZenErik ""] woopz |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 8:58am - Martins ""] You have it a little backwards. Even order harmonics are the ones that sound good and odds are the bad ones. Tubes create both but when saturated, create more even order harmonics. I doubt your tube amp is always in saturation or else you'd need to replace tubes pretty often. Also, I know all about the coat hanger trials and, since they're solid and not stranded, you would actually get very little inductance and capacitance, though you would get a higher resistance depending on the thickness used. lol |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 9:04am - ZenErik ""] You are correct about the harmonics. I haven't looked at any of this stuff in a while. :P My baaad. However, my statement about high bitrate DACs being beneficial still stands. Moving to a higher capacity digital format would be nice, but it doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. I've seen a few digital downloads that are above CD quality, but that's about it. SACDs are rather limited too. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 9:05am - arktouros ""] aril said: Sometimes though, I miss the joy of buying a CD for the sole reason of not knowing what it will sound like. The internet has been both good and bad for music. backed. those days are gone. i'm spoiled by the number of digital albums i have and it's all just fodder. you can only listen to one song at a time... |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 9:25am - ZenErik ""] off to trade in my ipod at cex because my 50 dollar mp3 player sounds better. haha. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 9:57am - arilliusbm ""] Mail-order catalogues are pretty much dead these days. Everything is all about the internet. With paypal and shit for a black metal fan, it's great because you can order stuff from all sorts of Euro-labels. But at the same time, I remember back when it was nearly impossible to DL anything underground blackmetal related. When Napster first came out it wasn't that good for metal. It took some time for metal to kick up on Napster; I think I remember seeing Nokturnal Mortum appear on Napster until around the time of Goat Horns or a little bit after. When Audio Galaxy came out, metal was extremely easy to DL and was all over the place. The best place to always DL music was IRC. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 10:01am - arilliusbm ""] Direct Connect too. Do people still use that stuff? I used to be a moderater in a horrible metal direct connect server. Were forced to ban people for having Illnath or Cradle of Filth or Dimmu Borgir. hahaha, retarded. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 10:19am - arktouros ""] haha, DC++, I remember using that for a while. Mostly for games and copies of Windows. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 11:18am - goatcatalyst ""] ITT: fucking nerds |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:00pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] The Underground is dead. :whipper: |
| ______________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:03pm - Yeti ""] correctamundo. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:42pm - barbeloh ""] of course it's preferable for everybody to buy music they like and listen to on a regular basis. Downloading does, on the other hand, allow for a much wider dissemination of music than hard copy alone makes possible. For instance, I was pretty stoked to meet an Ipsissimus fan in Damascus airport's duty-free store buying a liter of Jameson's at 5am. I doubt that he has ordered a hard copy of "Trampling the Host," but it was very exciting to see that our music was being enjoyed in the syrian arab republic. |
| _________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:50pm - thetruthaboutmuffdivers ""] spalding said:sorry grandpa! You'll get nothing and like it!!! |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:35pm - metalfuck ""] so if it doesn't matter and we all think it's so great to steal music, where's the revocation link? |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:38pm - Archaeon ""] Find it yerself niggerrrrr. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 12:14am - metalguy_2 ""] agreed |
| __________________________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:06am - thetruthaboutmuffdivers ""] Ooh I bet no logger-inners will post it. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:38am - goatcatalyst ""] I still can't believe you Simple Jack full retards haven't caught on to my announcement of the Portal leak. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:40am - arilliusbm ""] only Cynic's Portal is real. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:43am - goatcatalyst ""] Cynic's Portal is more of a sphincter. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:44am - arilliusbm ""] You'd think those Aussies would have picked an original name |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:48am - goatcatalyst ""] I think it suits them fine. No such thing as an original name. Ever. Somewhere, at some time, some assholes called themselves the same thing as you and your gang of assholes. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:51am - arilliusbm ""] I know, I'm being the rttp prick. Post it up. |
| __________________________________________________ [Oct 20,2009 10:34am - thetruthaboutmuffdivers ""] thetruthaboutmuffdivers said:Ooh I bet no logger-inners will post it. Surprise! |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 28,2009 10:09pm - metalfan ""] To those who can't afford it http://rapidshare.com/files/288014589/EIF.rar |
| __________________________________ [Sep 21,2012 3:12pm - HAMBONE ""] BUMMP |
| _________________________________ [Sep 22,2012 4:22am - Zircon ""] Revocation has been requested to play the First NE Metal and Gothis Thrash October Festival.. This will be an annual event.. Get in touch with promoters through Scott Wily http://www.facebook.com/scott.wily.1 |
| _________________________________ [Sep 22,2012 4:27am - Zircon ""] Any other bands interested message us.. Zircon Presents The NE Metal/Thrash/Harcore/Industrial October Feast! |