News Article: pentagon 911 video released[views:15691][posts:85]________________________________________ [May 17,2006 12:04pm - midgetstealer ""] Or "read it yourself instead of asking the government why" |
| __________________________________________ [May 17,2006 12:06pm - SacreligionNLI ""] same idea |
| ________________________________ [May 17,2006 12:23pm - troll ""] 911 was a ploy by the Busch Administration to get the Amerikan public to back G Dubya's plans to invade Iraq. Do you really think the Pentagone \m/ would let anything get that close to it? A 9eleven scenerio is gonna happen again soon. It's kinda funny but my friends seem to think that June 6, 2006 is too much of a symbolic date/# to go by un-noticed by terrorist groups and such..I'm skeptical though and besides, the only terrorists' to fear are the ones in the Whyte Haus. Its when the people lower their guard and forget that the world is a dangerous unforgiving nightmare and let the warm glow of the cathode-ray pacify their minds that the Gestapo knocks down your doors to bring you to the camps. We are all d00med. Enjoy your coffee. |
| ________________________________ [May 17,2006 12:26pm - troll ""] *sip* mmmmm...I know I'm enjoying mine. |
| ________________________________________________ [May 17,2006 12:35pm - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""] You can tell its not a plane, but whatever. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 17,2006 12:57pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] midgetstealer said: * The fact that the portion of the Pentagon attacked was nearly empty due to ongoing renovations, and that the aircraft undertook an extreme maneuver to strike this portion are strong evidence that the attack was an inside job. * The complexity and precision of the approach maneuver are nearly impossible to reconcile with the official account that the plane was piloted by Hani Hanjour, an incompetent pilot of even single-engine prop-planes. * Several eyewitness accounts suggest that the jetliner exploded before impacting the building. * The rapid clean-up of evidence of the attack, and the indications of forgery in the five video frames released by the Pentagon suggest insiders have conspired to conceal the nature of the attack. Do you have references for those, or are you just repeating something you heard... |
| _________________________________________ [May 17,2006 1:38pm - SacreligionNLI ""] taken from wikipedia.org: "The section of the Pentagon hit consisted mainly of recently renovated, unoccupied offices, and was damaged by the crash and the ensuing violent fire" "In September, Hanjour began to make cross-country flights in August to test security, and tried to rent a small Cessna 172 plane from Freeway Airport in Maryland - though he was declined after exhibiting poor flying skills." ------------------------ "Even before stepping outside I could smell the cordite. Then I knew explosives had been set off somewhere." - Don Perkal www.mcsweeneys.net/2001/09/19perkal.html "We saw a huge black cloud of smoke, she said, saying it smelled like cordite, or gun smoke." - Gilah Goldsmith www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550486,00.html |
| _______________________________________ [May 17,2006 1:43pm - midgetstealer ""] Man_of_the_Century said:midgetstealer said: * The fact that the portion of the Pentagon attacked was nearly empty due to ongoing renovations, and that the aircraft undertook an extreme maneuver to strike this portion are strong evidence that the attack was an inside job. * The complexity and precision of the approach maneuver are nearly impossible to reconcile with the official account that the plane was piloted by Hani Hanjour, an incompetent pilot of even single-engine prop-planes. * Several eyewitness accounts suggest that the jetliner exploded before impacting the building. * The rapid clean-up of evidence of the attack, and the indications of forgery in the five video frames released by the Pentagon suggest insiders have conspired to conceal the nature of the attack. Do you have references for those, or are you just repeating something you heard... http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/ |
| _______________________________________________ [May 17,2006 1:55pm - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""] it doesnt take a genius to analyze this video, you can tell that is defintally not a commerical airliner |
| ____________________________________________ [May 17,2006 2:05pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] "The fact that the portion of the Pentagon attacked was nearly empty due to ongoing renovations, and that the aircraft undertook an extreme maneuver to strike this portion are strong evidence that the attack was an inside job. " Or it was poor planning on the terrorists side. They were unaware that the section in question was under renovations. The manuvering doesn't seen that far off, especialy if they wanted to hit the Army section of the Pentagon. "The complexity and precision of the approach maneuver are nearly impossible to reconcile with the official account that the plane was piloted by Hani Hanjour, an incompetent pilot of even single-engine prop-planes." It has yet to be confirmed that he was the poilot. Also from wikipedia: "There is a controversy over whether or not the security tapes indeed show him, since the man claimed to be him seems significantly heavier than Hanjour, has kept his beard (Which the hijackers all reportedly shaved off the night before), and has a different style of hair." Not to mention: "Hanjour obtained a commercial pilots license in 1999 and according to the chief instructor, "Despite Hanjour's poor reviews, he did have some ability as a pilot, "There's no doubt in my mind that once that [hijacked jet] got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it," he said." "Several eyewitness accounts suggest that the jetliner exploded before impacting the building." They suggest, they never say for sure. Did you happen to notice that most of them say that it was a plane? "The noise was like an artillery shell, not an explosion like a bomb" |
| _________________________________________ [May 17,2006 2:13pm - SacreligionNLI ""] im just gonna propose a new theory...it was a nuke that didn't detonate and to cover up the fact that terrorists had nuclear launching capabilities they covered it up with a plane no way it was a 757 though...have you ever actually seen one of those in person? |
| ______________________________ [May 17,2006 3:18pm - Yeti ""] the cause was some mexican janitor farting in the bathroom |
| _________________________________________ [May 17,2006 3:19pm - SacreligionNLI ""] damn mexicans |
| ______________________________________ [May 17,2006 3:26pm - hungtableed ""] troll said: 911 was a ploy by the Busch Administration to get the Amerikan public to back G Dubya's plans to invade Iraq. Do you really think the Pentagone \m/ would let anything get that close to it? A 9eleven scenerio is gonna happen again soon. It's kinda funny but my friends seem to think that June 6, 2006 is too much of a symbolic date/# to go by un-noticed by terrorist groups and such..I'm skeptical though and besides, the only terrorists' to fear are the ones in the Whyte Haus. Its when the people lower their guard and forget that the world is a dangerous unforgiving nightmare and let the warm glow of the cathode-ray pacify their minds that the Gestapo knocks down your doors to bring you to the camps. We are all d00med. Enjoy your coffee. wow. I don't understand how people are so willing to sign on to the most rediculous conspiracy theories. I have officially lost all hope for mankind. |
| _________________________________________ [May 17,2006 3:30pm - SacreligionNLI ""] that's certainly not the MOST ridiculous conspiracy theory it would be the most ridiculous conspiracy theory if he included the fact that most of the Bush admin. are reptilian shapeshifters here to start a globally policed new world order in which they have al the power and humans are their slaves...wait, that's pretty much happening besides the shapeshifting part...now is it so hard to believe? that's right...i'm fuckin crazy |
| _________________________________ [May 17,2006 4:41pm - soloman ""] Size of 757 matches the initial size of hole in the building - somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high) Rims found in building match those of a 757 Small turbine engine outside is an APU Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211 Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon 60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage |
| _______________________________________________ [May 17,2006 4:45pm - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""] soloman said:Size of 757 matches the initial size of hole in the building - somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high) Rims found in building match those of a 757 Small turbine engine outside is an APU Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211 Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon 60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage and where are your sources? I refuse to believe that this is nothing but an inside job, I mean come on..look at the tape...are you going to tell me that that is a plane? and further more look at the area of the Pentagon, there is NO way that plane going those speeds got low enough to hit the pentagon, that is just god damn ridiculous |
| _________________________________ [May 17,2006 4:52pm - soloman ""] All that was taken from my above link. Its a very interesting read. Seriously, read through the whole thing : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 I agree the tape that was just put out is ridiculous. It's stupid that it was released with the hope of squashing conspiracy theories. It takes a photo about every half second. There is no way youre gonna see anything with that. The biggest problem with the conspiracy theory is that if the plane never hit the pentagon, then were did it go? There is plane full of people unaccounted for. I'm not saying that our government should be trusted completely. I'm just saying the Boeing DID hit the pentagon, and that this missle conspiracy is crap. |
| ____________________________________________________ [May 17,2006 4:58pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] I'm not reading any of this thread, but I finally saw the video. It's the same video I saw years ago. I guess they've just decided to shove it in everyone's faces now. It's been available to the public since 9-11, though. |
| _________________________________________ [May 17,2006 5:13pm - SacreligionNLI ""] Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer suggested this very same conspiracy in 1962 when Cuba was one of our major enemies. Using scare tactics as a front to get people behind the idea of attacking Cuba. -Starting rumors about Cuba by using clandestine radios. -Staging mock attacks, sabotages and riots at Guantanamo Bay and blaming it on Cuban forces. -Firebombing and sinking an American ship at the Guantanamo Bay American military base—reminiscent of the USS Maine incident at Havana in 1898, which started the Spanish-American War—or destroy American aircraft and blame it on Cuban forces. (The document's first suggestion regarding the sinking of a U.S. ship is to blow up a manned ship and hence would result in U.S. Navy members being killed, with a secondary suggestion of possibly using unmanned drones and fake funerals instead.) -"Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type [sic] planes would be useful as complementary actions." -Destroying an unmanned drone masquerading as a commercial aircraft supposedly full of "college students off on a holiday". This proposal was the one supported by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. -Staging a "terror campaign", including the "real or simulated" sinking of Cuban refugees -"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute [sic] to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized." -Burning crops by dropping incendiary devices in Haiti, Dominican Republic or elsewhere. do you know that all of those people in the list of passengers is real? perhaps it's a bunch of made up characters(no offense to those who actually lost their lives in the tragedy) whose info was put on a computer so that they would check out. all in theory...i still say something's fishy and about the engine parts: John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had previously told AFP: "It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I'm familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in Indy." |
| ______________________________________ [May 17,2006 5:37pm - steve nehek ""] if it was some massive conspiracy to start a war with Iraq, why wouldn't Bush try to do a better job at making 9/11 look like Iraq's fault. If the administration was able enough to fire a cruise missle at our own pentagon without anyone noticing it was gone, make a jumbo jet dissappear and plant physical evidence of the jet at the scene. Couldn't they also just have planted some evidence of WMD's in a country that none of us have ever been to instead of making themselves look incompetent and misinformed? Its amazing that such a huge conspiracy was put together so poorly that a bunch of conspiracy theorists reading websites were able to put all the pieces together so easily without any evidence behind it and mountains of evidence pointing towards what most likely happened are regarded unfounded. Also OJ is innocent because the glove didn't fit. |
| _____________________________________ [May 17,2006 7:48pm - Sacreligion ""] yeah but those bastards are notorious for being involved in many greedy ass oil companies blaming afghanistan for being in league with the terrorists and going in there to get osama bin laden was step 1, after doing that going to iraq wouldn't seem so extreme they're up to no good, i tell ya! |
| __________________________________________ [May 17,2006 9:59pm - intricateprocess ""] only took 4.5 years for this video to surface |
| ________________________________ [May 17,2006 10:43pm - troll ""] hungtableed said:troll said: 911 was a ploy by the Busch Administration to get the Amerikan public to back G Dubya's plans to invade Iraq. Do you really think the Pentagone \m/ would let anything get that close to it? A 9eleven scenerio is gonna happen again soon. It's kinda funny but my friends seem to think that June 6, 2006 is too much of a symbolic date/# to go by un-noticed by terrorist groups and such..I'm skeptical though and besides, the only terrorists' to fear are the ones in the Whyte Haus. Its when the people lower their guard and forget that the world is a dangerous unforgiving nightmare and let the warm glow of the cathode-ray pacify their minds that the Gestapo knocks down your doors to bring you to the camps. We are all d00med. Enjoy your coffee. wow. I don't understand how people are so willing to sign on to the most rediculous conspiracy theories. I have officially lost all hope for mankind. Trust me I don't lose sleep over the stupid shit I decide to spout on this forum and I'm definetely I'm not a conspiracy nut. I'm just entertaining myself. honestly though, not everthing in this world is black and white. I hope you agree. I am however a hopeless misanthrope and have not only "lost all hope for mankind" but wish for it's total demise. With that said, I'm gonna go back to my bottle of Old Grand Dad and drink myself to sleep. |
| ______________________________________ [May 19,2006 2:55am - GravityBlast ""] The framerate changes when 'it' enters the screen. Bring it into an editor and check it out. This has psyop written all over it. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 12,2006 11:26am - sxealex ""] this is not a joking matter office! |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 13,2006 10:11pm - Fuck Off ""] Who gives a fuck??? this forum is to talk about Metal not about politics or news. |
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| ______________________________________________________ [Jul 16,2006 2:45pm - Through 88 Bring Us Stength ""] You all need to stop believing what the jew run media is telling you. |