Massachusetts man fired from corporation over Christian belief in traditional marriage[views:8448][posts:87]________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:13pm - Conservationist ""] A Massachusetts man was fired from a national retail corporation because of his traditional beliefs on same-sex marriage. Peter Vadala was formally dismissed from his job as second deputy manager of the Brookstone store at Boston’s Logan Airport on August 12, 2009, after a supervisor reported him to Human Resources regarding an incident two days earlier. http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09d/vadala/index.html SODOMY IS THE ONLY LAW! |
| ________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:15pm - reimroc ""] Fascist liberals strike again. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:17pm - aril ""] Good. He's Christian. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:22pm - Yeti ""] bullshit. i don't care if he was Christian or not, you can't fire someone for that. i don't like Christianity one bit, but this is nuts. from what i gathered in the article the woman antagonized him for close to a week before he made the statement, and they fire him for it? i hope he retaliates, that's fucking bogus. that bitch should be fired for creating a hostile work environment. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:24pm - porphyria ""] aril said:Good. He's Christian. exactly, he should have kept his religious nutbag opinion to himself regardless of someone mentioning their legal fiance. If the manager told him that being a Christian is "Bad Suff" then I'd expect she'd be fired too. Also, he even said it himself that he's not just against gay marriage but against homosexuality as a whole, which in itself makes him a total bigot piece of religious shit. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:26pm - Yeti ""] that may be so, but after being antagonized for close to a week, and stating that he was against it for religious purposes doesn't constitute that kind of a punishment. he may be religious, but its his fucking right to be that way. i don't gather that he pushed anything on her, she poked and prodded to get a reaction, she got one, and he got fired for it. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:27pm - Yeti ""] what if the roles were reversed and she told him that she was against heterosexual marriage? would she have been fired? no fucking way. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:28pm - brian_dc ""] I don't care what particular morals are involved. Can't have this sort of double standard bullshit. Hope this guy fights it. Like Yeti said, according to the story, he wasn't the one doing the antagonizing. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:28pm - porphyria ""] p.s. I have a hard time believing that she was 'antagonizing' him and bringing up her fiance to him "all day long" as he noted. He could've just told HR or someone higher up that he was uncomfortable with her mentioning her fiance instead of insulting her by saying it's "Bad Stuff". |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:29pm - Yeti ""] fair enough, there are always two sides to the story. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:29pm - porphyria ""] btw, we're talking about one day here, not a week. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:29pm - Yeti ""] i could see that though, especially from a Massachusetts person. she knew he was uncomfortable, so she went for the reaction. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:30pm - arktouros ""] he shoudn't have been fired. the woman forced him to state his beliefs. what that belief is is irrelevant, he didn't do anything. he caused no disruption. that sucks. it's completely legal for him to be fired but it reflects poorly on that shit store. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:30pm - Yeti ""] porphyria said:btw, we're talking about one day here, not a week. you are correct, i read that wrong. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:31pm - porphyria ""] I fail to see how he was forced to state his opinion. If he wasn't a complete moron he could have handled it in a more professional manner suitable for the workplace rather than confronting her and saying her legal marriage is "BAD STUFF". |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:32pm - Yeti ""] it says she kept confronting him, and after the 4th or 5th time he stated his opinion. hardly him pushing his beliefs on her. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:33pm - arktouros ""] agreed, but she was in the perfect position to cry HARASSMENT and that's the fastest way to get somebody fired at any retail store. he probably should not have said anything but she overreacted which is typical. I would have just said "it's legal here buddy, get over it" and ended it. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:33pm - porphyria ""] Yeti said:i could see that though, especially from a Massachusetts person. she knew he was uncomfortable, so she went for the reaction. He doesn't mention that she knew he was uncomfortable, I find that impossible to know especially if he dropped the subject after she mentioned her fiance. Until of course he decided to open his mouth. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:36pm - thuringwethil ""] where's his new job? That's gonna be my new favorite store! "Do you have that book Heather Has Two Mommies?. I was assigned some book by Charles Darwin Origin of the Species?" and on and on... |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:36pm - Hoser ""] Fags are always looking for a reason to start a fire. They are the most dramatic of all people. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:37pm - arktouros ""] hahaha yes. to thuring's comment not hoser's. although hoser's is quite a blanket statement that's right more often than not. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:38pm - porphyria ""] I fail to see where it states her mentioning her fiance to HIM in a conversation more than once. The way he describes it, she mentions it once to him and he drops it. But then hears her mention her fiance to other potentially others or his other boss, not necessarily directed to him. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:39pm - porphyria ""] Hoser said:Fags/Blacks/Women are always looking for a reason to start a fire. They are the most dramatic of all people. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:39pm - thuringwethil ""] sounds like a scene from a John Waters movie |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:40pm - i_am_not_me ""] Hoser said:Fags are always looking for a reason to start a fire. They are the most dramatic of all people. Where does this mention bikers? |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:43pm - arktouros ""] ITT: Expendable retailperson gets fired, and gets blown out of proportion by a right-leaning MA news action site. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:43pm - porphyria ""] He might as well have called her a Fag, told her that God Hates Fags and that she would burn in hell. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:44pm - porphyria ""] in the workplace, no less. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:55pm - porphyria ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 2:01pm - Murph MAST ""] She has the right to tell anyone, anywhere, at any volume she's getting married. It is legal, who gives a shit what makes someone uncomfortable. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 2:07pm - xmikex ""] Conservationist said:second deputy manager of the Brookstone store at Boston’s Logan Airport Were all the paper routes taken? Get a real job, homo. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 2:07pm - ouchdrummer ""] ANY time you talk about ANYTHING like "beliefs" at work, you are taking a chance on offending someone. Sorry buds, but it doesn't matter how much someone "pushes" you to say how you feel, if that feeling is hurtful to others, than in todays workforce you will be removed. I REALLY hate to say it, because i don't think hurting someones fucking feelings SHOULD be grounds for being dismissed, but it is..... and the "double standard" argument that people will make about his feelings/beliefs being offended is invalid because of one simple thing. He didn't complain first. If he had went to HR and told them that this person was trying to make him feel bad about being christian, then it WOULD have went the other way. But he didn't, and they did. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 2:18pm - Murph MAST ""] ouchdrummer said:ANY time you talk about ANYTHING like "beliefs" at work, you are taking a chance on offending someone. Sorry buds, but it doesn't matter how much someone "pushes" you to say how you feel, if that feeling is hurtful to others, than in todays workforce you will be removed. I REALLY hate to say it, because i don't think hurting someones fucking feelings SHOULD be grounds for being dismissed, but it is..... and the "double standard" argument that people will make about his feelings/beliefs being offended is invalid because of one simple thing. He didn't complain first. If he had went to HR and told them that this person was trying to make him feel bad about being christian, then it WOULD have went the other way. But he didn't, and they did. I make it a point to offend anyone of an Abrahamic faith as much as possible. Especially Christians, do to their proximity in numbers to me. I do try to respect people on all fronts, but someone's human-ness has nothing to do with their beliefs, no matter how much they try. I respect your right to any opinion, but I certainly do not have to respect the opinion itself (only as good as the facts that back it up!) |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 2:29pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] BRUMMMBRRRRUMMMBRUMBRUM BRRRRRRRRRMMMMM |
| _____________________________________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 2:38pm - Aril, racist police captain Boston division ""] The hate crime bill that was just passed will lead to more stuff like this. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 3:21pm - Yeti ""] porphyria said:I fail to see where it states her mentioning her fiance to HIM in a conversation more than once. The way he describes it, she mentions it once to him and he drops it. But then hears her mention her fiance to other potentially others or his other boss, not necessarily directed to him. "Peter did not immediately react, but when the manager sensed Peter’s discomfort with the subject of same-sex “marriage”, the woman apparently continued bringing it up to Peter throughout the day, reiterating that she was getting married to another woman. Finally, after the fourth or fifth time she brought it up, Peter remarked that his Christian beliefs did not accept same-sex marriage. At that point the woman became very angry and bluntly told Peter that he needed to “get over it” and said that she would be immediately contacting the Human Resources department." that sounds to me like antagonizing. here i am defending a Christian, but its only because i don't agree with terminating him. if anything, they should have both been terminated. was he right? no, they were both wrong. she should have left it alone, and he should have kept his mouth shut. but really we're basing our judgments off of a news source, who just suck in general. its shitty that we'll be facing more and more of this kind of bullshit, anyone who is ever offended who isn't a white, straight, God fearing Amurikan will be a target. |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 3:34pm - thetruthaboutmuffdivers ""] And what about the muff divers??? Think about it... |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 3:54pm - Lamp ""] I'm guessing there's more to this story than the article states, but either way this woman sounds like she's got a large stick jammed up her colon. |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 4:05pm - thetruthaboutmuffdivers ""] This forum is more fun when it's about Bova and Yuki Hu. Drop the phony outrage, it takes too much time away from playing Nintendo and smoking marijuana! |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 4:31pm - Conservationist ""] porphyria said:he should have kept his religious nutbag opinion to himself regardless of someone mentioning their legal fiance. She should have kept her politics out of the office. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 4:37pm - aril ""] She should have stuck her strap-on up his faggot Christian ass and called it a day. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 4:38pm - porphyria ""] Conservationist said: porphyria said:he should have kept his religious nutbag opinion to himself regardless of someone mentioning their legal fiance. She should have kept her politics out of the office. since when is discussing your spouse/marriage considered politics? |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 4:41pm - jesus_freak ""] The guy is a total douche regardless. Christian Holocaust now!!!!!!!!! |
| ________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 5:41pm - sxealex ""] Thread title is odd but... yea he shouldn't have been fired if thats REALLY how it went down. She could be a lying cunt nawmean. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 5:54pm - MikeOfDecrepitude ""] One is a christian and the other is a dyke cunt EXTERMINATE BOTH! ZERO TOLERANCE! |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 6:23pm - MikeOfDecrepitude ""] KILL ALL WHITES AND VEGAN COMMUNISTS. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 8:40pm - Conservationist ""] porphyria said:since when is discussing your spouse/marriage considered politics? Because not everyone agrees with your choice. If I decided to send my kids to Jesus camp, I wouldn't talk about it with the office atheist. That's passive aggression and provocation, and people of that nature are the ultimate parasites. |
| ______________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 9:39pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] but, was she hawt? |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 9:51pm - swamplorddvm ""] I see nothing wrong with gay marriage. But to fire someone for his/her view on the topic is just wrong. Even if he's a goofball that can't think for himself. This firing sounds kinda illegal to me. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 9:58pm - thuringwethil ""] fahk, i dunno it's just nice to see the shoe on the other foot finally |