Kanye West; "Bush doesn't care about black people" live on TV[views:15795][posts:91]__________________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 12:08am - CarrotsandSticks ""] http://www.hiphopmusic.com/archives/001133.html watch the second video Mike Myers: [dutifully reads canned plea for charity on teleprompter] Kanye: [abandons teleprompter] "I hate the way they portray us in the media. You see a black family and they say we are looting, you see a white family and they say they are looking for food. And, you know, its been five days because most of the people ARE black. And even for me to complain, I would be a hypocrite because I would turn away from the TV because it's too hard to watch. I've even been shopping before even giving a donation, so now I'm calling my business manager right to see what is the biggest amount I can give. And just to imagine, if I was down there and those are my people down there. If there is anybody out there that wants to do anything that we can help about the way America is set up the help the poor, the black people, the less well off as slow as possible. Red cross is doing as much as they can. We already realize a lot of the people that could help are at war right now, fighting another way. And now they've given them permission to go down and shoot us. Mike Myers: [stands frozen in horror, decides to pretend nothing happened and stick with the teleprompter] Kanye: GEORGE BUSH DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE. Mike Myers: [descends into complete panic] Posted by jsmooth995 at September 2, 2005 09:18 PM |
| ________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 12:12am - retzam ""] Hahahaha that's hilarious. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 1:16am - todayistheday ""] typical black thinking everyone is against them |
| ____________________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 1:46am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Great, not only do they butcher my favorite Ray Bradbury short story in a terrible film adaptation, but Kanye West has to open his stupid ass mouth. What a day! |
| _______________________________ [Sep 3,2005 3:16pm - mOe_RK ""] "typical black thinking everyone is against them" WHAT THE FUCK!? are you serious? typical white thinking that everything they see and hear on the news and from politicians is whats really happening. Typical white thinking that racism is dead and doesn't occur in our present day.......sad |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 3:30pm - grundlegremlin ""] Well put Moe.That is typical white mentallity.George Bush is a fucking cunt,he REALLY fucking cares about those people.Like Bill Hicks said "Go back to bed America,your government is in control." |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 4:36pm - the_reverend ""] here it is folks! http://buttlands.net/kanye.avi |
| __________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 4:56pm - dreadkill ""] george bush feels bad that his ridiculously long vacation at the ranch has been interrupted by war protesting, gas prices, and a hurricane. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 4:58pm - dreadkill ""] there are as many dumb, misinformed white people as there are black. i just hope for the best for everyone in hurricane affected areas, regardless of race. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 4:59pm - dreadkill ""] kanye west is only partly right. george bush not only doesn't care about black people, he doesn't care about the majority of the american people. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 5:00pm - todayistheday ""] okay dude everything that remotly happens to a black person they thinks its racist...if michael jackson was convicted it would have been racism....OJ........if someone gets arrested its racist.....give me a break..im sick of these people whinning everytime happens to them....kanye west is the biggest racist of them all |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 7:13pm - REPOST_POLICE ""] CarrotsandSticks said: http://www.hiphopmusic.com/archives/001133.html watch the second video Mike Myers: [dutifully reads canned plea for charity on teleprompter] Kanye: [abandons teleprompter] "I hate the way they portray us in the media. You see a black family and they say we are looting, you see a white family and they say they are looking for food. And, you know, its been five days because most of the people ARE black. And even for me to complain, I would be a hypocrite because I would turn away from the TV because it's too hard to watch. I've even been shopping before even giving a donation, so now I'm calling my business manager right to see what is the biggest amount I can give. And just to imagine, if I was down there and those are my people down there. If there is anybody out there that wants to do anything that we can help about the way America is set up the help the poor, the black people, the less well off as slow as possible. Red cross is doing as much as they can. We already realize a lot of the people that could help are at war right now, fighting another way. And now they've given them permission to go down and shoot us. Mike Myers: [stands frozen in horror, decides to pretend nothing happened and stick with the teleprompter] Kanye: GEORGE BUSH DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE. Mike Myers: [descends into complete panic] Posted by jsmooth995 at September 2, 2005 09:18 PM REPOST! |
| __________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 7:55pm - MASlayer ""] when a family is looking for food or clothes fine...but why do people need to loot VCR's, DVD players and TV's? And why do these people shoot at the rescue relief efforts? How willing would you be to go in and get shot at to help others? Stop being so liberal in your viewpoints...Bush is getting them in and making sure efforts can do it SAFELY. When the Red Cross needs to carry shotguns to protect themselves to help others there's a SERIOUS problem in the thinking of people that efforts aren't being made by him or his administration... |
| ______________________________ [Sep 3,2005 8:58pm - Ayen ""] are you really that weekminded that you dont realise youve brainwashed??? look at what your saying! bush is evil! |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 8:59pm - dan_bloodblister ""] yes serosly! u r so week minded!!! realise u nede 2 be smratar!!!!!!! |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 9:47pm - the_reverend ""] "i am so smart, s..m..r..t.. I mean s..m..a...r...t..." |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 9:56pm - niccolai nli ""] w3rd nigga you dumb crackas is so rasisst. ya biiiiirrrd. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 10:36pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] the_reverend said:"i am so smart, s..m..r..t.. I mean s..m..a...r...t..." Fun tidbit: That wasn't in the script. Dan Castellaneta actually mispelled it during the recording and improvised. On the dvd commentery they joke about how he turns into homer during the recordings. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 10:51pm - Dissector ""] MASlayer said:when a family is looking for food or clothes fine...but why do people need to loot VCR's, DVD players and TV's? And why do these people shoot at the rescue relief efforts? How willing would you be to go in and get shot at to help others? Stop being so liberal in your viewpoints...Bush is getting them in and making sure efforts can do it SAFELY. When the Red Cross needs to carry shotguns to protect themselves to help others there's a SERIOUS problem in the thinking of people that efforts aren't being made by him or his administration... Very well put. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 4,2005 1:02am - retzam ""] Dissector said:MASlayer said:when a family is looking for food or clothes fine...but why do people need to loot VCR's, DVD players and TV's? And why do these people shoot at the rescue relief efforts? How willing would you be to go in and get shot at to help others? Stop being so liberal in your viewpoints...Bush is getting them in and making sure efforts can do it SAFELY. When the Red Cross needs to carry shotguns to protect themselves to help others there's a SERIOUS problem in the thinking of people that efforts aren't being made by him or his administration... Very well put. I agree. I'm not really a fan of Bush, but I think it's kind of silly to say that he's ignoring this crisis. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:21am - mOe_RK ""] todayistheday said:okay dude everything that remotly happens to a black person they thinks its racist...if michael jackson was convicted it would have been racism....OJ........if someone gets arrested its racist.....give me a break..im sick of these people whinning everytime happens to them....kanye west is the biggest racist of them all what do micheal Jackson and OJ have to do with people drowning to death in their own homes because people are just doing jack shit about their situation...pick your battle, man. We're talking about NOLA here. My statement still stands. I dont think that everything that happens to me is racism. No one said hat was happening to Micheal Jackson was racist. I sure as hell never said such things. OJ killed them people if you ask me. What you said about THIS situation was uncalled for. Point blank. Anyone who says black people are delusional for being pissed off for what happens in New Orleans is ignorant. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:41am - todayistheday ""] black people arent the only people who live in NO...over 10 billion sounds like a hell of alot to me. lets shoot at more red cross workers and others trying to help! |
| _______________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:42am - mOe_RK ""] P.S. being a black person, i can honestly ask what in the hell do you know about black people |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:43am - SacreligionNLI ""] our country is falling apart...i can't wait to see how things are a year from now |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:44am - the_reverend ""] moe: 1 everyone else: 0 |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 7:50am - MASlayer ""] to ayen and dan---you call ME brainwashed?? Aren't you the pc liberals screwing this country up? Backup your arguments if you're going to make comments...or run away crying like most liberals do...next you'll be telling me the Iraq war is about oil still... |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 9:06am - niccolai nli ""] mOe_RK said:P.S. being a black person, i can honestly ask what in the hell do you know about black people :whipper::whipper::whipper: Clean my shoes faster Tamica, or else I'll report you to the IRS |
| _____________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 10:14am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] If it were a few hundred thousand white people stuck in New Orleans: 1) we wouldn't be having this conversation. 2) Kanye West would not give a fuck about what was happening. Now THERE is a racist for you. I loathe George Bush with a passion hinging on insanity, but I seriously doubt he's guilty of not sending enough aid on time because of the skin color of the survivors...I think that is stretching it, the fact is there are/were survivors of all 'races' down there suffering, and I do think Kanye's comments came off as impulsive, bitter and childish. Skin color is simply a pigment shown to the naked eye by the sun. When the hell will we all get over this? I'm looking forward to the day I can be called a person and not just a 'white person'. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 10:18am - the_reverend ""] I think bush hate poor people and doesn't care about them (since he's never met any of them except for the hookers he bought blowing coke in new orleans). fact of the matter in this country, the "poor" people are the last big immigrant generation, the elderly, and the blacks. |
| _____________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 10:20am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I am with you Rev that Bush completely hates poor people. But I don't think that is news, and I don't think this particular situation is his personal cross to bear. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 11:08am - MASlayer ""] he hates them soooooooooo much he pledged 10.5 billion in federal aid...yeah guys that makes a lot of sense...plus his tax ploicies are better than ANY democrat's...research the facts and get back to me ok? |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 11:10am - CarrotsandSticks ""] I want oatmeal |
| _____________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 11:16am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] MASlayer said:he hates them soooooooooo much he pledged 10.5 billion in federal aid...yeah guys that makes a lot of sense...plus his tax ploicies are better than ANY democrat's...research the facts and get back to me ok? None of us ever said he didn't. Of course he did, or else his disapproval rating would have soared even further towards the sky. But that doesn't reflect on Bush the person, just Bush the politician. |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:00pm - BornSoVile ""] MASlayer said:he hates them soooooooooo much he pledged 10.5 billion in federal aid...yeah guys that makes a lot of sense...plus his tax ploicies are better than ANY democrat's...research the facts and get back to me ok? I find it disgusting that congress pulled together an emergency session on a sunday night which was a holiday to vote in order to keep a feeding tube in terry schivo. and now after the greatest catastrophe in american history, it took them 4 days after the disaster hit to pull together. When Bill Clinton left office, we had the largest surplus in American history of 5.6 Trillion dollars. When Bush came in, he provided tax cuts which annihilated the surplus (most of it went to his rich cronie friends) leaving us with the largest defiect in American history. It's a story that never changes, the right fucks everything up, and the left cleans up. That's why the left is known for taxes. The Republican party is about money. With oil drillers and god on their side, you can see where they fit in. Roughly every anguish from Repulicans is developed from money, taxes, work work work work, no new taxes! |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:01pm - BornSoVile ""] and for the record, I'd love to have a beer or go fishing with Bush, seems like a friendly guy n shit. but as a leader he's simply horrible. the right coulda picked a better canidate who can at least read. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:08pm - MASlayer ""] FACT: Once a policy is voted on, it takes 8 - 12 yrs before the full effects of that policy is felt. That surplus during the Clinton era was all from Reagan and Bush Sr. signing and writing in bills. Don't like how things are now? Blame Clinton, especially when he cut more of the US defense budget than any other president...wish we had that now...and if the right screws it all up, why is the right leading the way in presidencies for the past 32 years? BECAUSE THE RIGHT IS THE WAY TO GO...THE LEFT ARE ALL ABOUT TAXES AND CUTS FOR IMPORTANT PROGRAMS. THEY ARE WOLVE'S IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING...DO NOT BE FOOLED... |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:13pm - BornSoVile ""] Yeah, everybody always tells me that but I've never believed it cause everyone who says it doesn't even read the paper or attempt to research it, let alone know who the 3rd President of the USA was. When was this study concluded? What were some of the bills passed that enabled this? I've had at least a dozen people tell me what you just did but nobody provides sufficent information. I find it hard to believe that anytime you do something in this country, people won't know or feel it for 8-12 years. |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:26pm - BornSoVile ""] MASlayer said:and if the right screws it all up, why is the right leading the way in presidencies for the past 32 years? [img] |
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| ________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:58pm - MIDGETSTEALER ""] Who is kanye west to say anything? he has more money than half the people there.Also to say bush doesnt care about black people is just ignorant he cares just as much about black people as he cares about middle class white folks.If it doesnt benefit that redneck bastard and his best friends then its not okay in his book.P.S. i bet you bush has a few rich ass black friends too. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:00pm - mOe_RK ""] DrinkHardThrashHard said:If it were a few hundred thousand white people stuck in New Orleans: 1) we wouldn't be having this conversation. 2) Kanye West would not give a fuck about what was happening. Now THERE is a racist for you. I loathe George Bush with a passion hinging on insanity, but I seriously doubt he's guilty of not sending enough aid on time because of the skin color of the survivors...I think that is stretching it, the fact is there are/were survivors of all 'races' down there suffering, and I do think Kanye's comments came off as impulsive, bitter and childish. Skin color is simply a pigment shown to the naked eye by the sun. When the hell will we all get over this? I'm looking forward to the day I can be called a person and not just a 'white person'. I think that the color of the skin and are of where they are also includes their social standing. Most of these people are black and EXTREMELY lower class. POOR! If these were wealthy upper class whites, i'm sure better precautions would have been taken. NO ONE can deny that Bush favors UPPER CLASS people, and most of those people happen to be white. Christ, think about all the goddamn tax cuts that favor the rich. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:16pm - MattRCT ""] what is this assumption fest or what. Everyone can guess what would happen if there were a majority were white but nobody knows for sure, so everyone quit crying and just be glad you are not stuck in NOLA. Kanye West comment was unnecessary. Bush doesn't care about anyone anyway |
| ____________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:25pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] mOe_RK said: I think that the color of the skin and are of where they are also includes their social standing. Most of these people are black and EXTREMELY lower class. POOR! If these were wealthy upper class whites, i'm sure better precautions would have been taken. NO ONE can deny that Bush favors UPPER CLASS people, and most of those people happen to be white. Christ, think about all the goddamn tax cuts that favor the rich. So what? Our entire society favors the rich. That's called capitalism. It's not a new thing...it's enterprise. And it favors rich 'black' people (who are actually brown) as well as rich 'white' people (who are a light shade of pink, or tan, NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE!). Have you seen Bush himself claim either in writing or on videotape, that he favors the UPPER CLASS, or is that just an inference you are drawing because you do not like him for other things he has done (I don't like him myself, but I don't think this is a case where the blame should rest on his shoulders). As for the other comment about us 'crying', we are not crying about anything. We are discussing a heated issue, on a forum full of such topics. As you said, Kanye West's comment being 'unnecessary' was the entire point of my previous posts. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 3:44pm - MattRCT ""] boobs |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 4:53pm - MASlayer ""] research? look at the bills passed and when they took place and then you'll see under who's administration that the benefits are felt... |
| _______________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 5:13pm - mark fucking richards ""] the only thing i have to say about this argument and every other argument revolving politics whatsoever is that no matter how much someone says, no matter how much research has been done and no matter what color anyone's skin is, no one (or at least a vast majority) in the world will ever REALLY know what the hell's going on. there is too much bullshit going on all the time regarding everything under the sun to really have a good sense of what is truth and what is not. i'm not saying anyone in this thread is wrong to have gathered information and formulated an opinion/argument on the matter, but i don't see the need for everyone to be at each other's throats. like mattRCT said, we should be glad we're not stuck in new orleans. |
| _____________________________ [Sep 4,2005 5:19pm - blue ""] mOe_RK said:P.S. being a black person, i can honestly ask what in the hell do you know about black people PWNED seriously, some people in this discussion are sounding ignorant as all hell. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 5:25pm - DomesticTerror ""] MASlayer said:...and if the right screws it all up, why is the right leading the way in presidencies for the past 32 years? because corporate america has more money to fund their candidates and push their agendas than I do because of Jesus because of guns because of "the Greatest Generation" because of the delusional mentality that being a good american consists of patriotism, not dissent. because many of the poor and middle class have such a negative and bleak outlook for the future/themselves, that they would rather not care. because it's easier to be a follower than a questioner. it seems that after a few terms with republicans in the white house, enough people get fed up and a democrat pulls off a victory. and please, nobody respond with "then why did Bush defeated Gore?" we'll need a new thread. then again, we're all off the subject here. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 5:27pm - kadoogan ""] mark fucking richards said:the only thing i have to say about this argument and every other argument revolving politics whatsoever is that no matter how much someone says, no matter how much research has been done and no matter what color anyone's skin is, no one (or at least a vast majority) in the world will ever REALLY know what the hell's going on. there is too much bullshit going on all the time regarding everything under the sun to really have a good sense of what is truth and what is not. i'm not saying anyone in this thread is wrong to have gathered information and formulated an opinion/argument on the matter, but i don't see the need for everyone to be at each other's throats. like mattRCT said, we should be glad we're not stuck in new orleans. that pretty much sums up my whole stance on pretty much everything. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 5:35pm - anonymous ""] MASlayer said:research? look at the bills passed and when they took place and then you'll see under who's administration that the benefits are felt... But the senate under Clinton was dominated by Republicans who voted down nearly every bill he supported while the senate under Reagan and Bush were controlled by Democrats. So isn't it the current recession really Newt Gingrich's fault? About Clinton's massive military cuts, what happened shortly before Clinton took office? What massive threat from another world power had dissapeared a year earlier? So why spend billions of dollars prepping for a large scale ground war against the defunct USSR when the military could be reorganized to deal with the smaller scale threat of terrorism which became the main security threat to America after the WTC attack a month after Clinton took office? Last I checked Clinton's military did a damn good job in Kosovo and Afghanistan. It was only after the current administration's military budget took effect that we saw troops going into combat in tin can humvees without flak jackets. |