Lord Viall Booking[views:22927][posts:91]_______________________________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:08pm - DYA is ANALYZING THIS THREAD ""] Is "this was all just a social experiment" still a thing? |
| _______________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:13pm - what ""] KEVORD said:Mayhem in their current incarnation is Necrobutcher and Hellhammer touring on the legend of their dead friends. They haven't even released a studio album in six years or a good album in nineteen. So give me a fucking break about how relevant they are to black metal music in 2013. 9 out of 10 black metal bands today are worship bands of 4 or 5 Scandinavian acts from the early 90's. If those bands are relevant (which they by definition are) how the fuck is Mayhem not, who not only contributed to a template that is followed by almost all black metal bands today, but whose last album was somehow actually good?? |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:18pm - KEVORD ""] Their last album sucked. 10 out of 10 black metal bands today worship Bathory not fagget Mayhem. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:20pm - KEVORD ""] Celtic Frost and Bathory created the template not early 90's bands. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:21pm - arilliusbm ""] NOBODY GIVES MASTERS HAMMER ANY CREDIT WTF |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:24pm - KEVORD ""] Someone's been reading too much Lords of Chaos. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:25pm - what ""] "contributed to a template" is what I said. Not created. So far you've misapplied everything I've said and made a straw man argument against it. Nice Also, of course CF, Bathory are worshipped today. Burzum and Mayhem just as much imo |
| _______________________________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:27pm - DYA is ANALYZING THIS THREAD ""] im incredibly misguided o |
| _______________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:27pm - what ""] Really?? You think I think Mayhem is an important band because of fucking Lords Of Chaos? LOL |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:30pm - KEVORD ""] Nobody would care about Mayhem if not for the Norwegian church burning crap. They had one really good album in 1994 and have since toured on the hype of their Lords of Chaos fame. |
| _______________________________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:30pm - DYA is ANALYZING THIS THREAD ""] Tl;dr version of this thread - Viall is still fagget and "what" purchased Lords of Chaos in his Hot Topic which is how they became lifelong handholding friends. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:31pm - KEVORD ""] Marduck has better albums in their back catalog. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:35pm - KEVORD ""] As someone who was alive in the early 90's I can say we where all importing albums from Emperor, Enslaved, Darkthrone, Burzum........and no one ever mentioned ordering Death Crush. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:41pm - what ""] KEVORD said:Nobody would care about Mayhem if not for the Norwegian church burning crap. They had one really good album in 1994 and have since toured on the hype of their Lords of Chaos fame. Jesus Christ. Ok after this one I'm out. Keep deflecting though, by all means. Its the template they helped create that influences the current crop. Regardless of if people hold them in good standing nowadays. Whether conscious or not a lot of shit is derivative of Mayhem, among others. Also thinking current black metal is only influenced by 80's bands? You give them (current bands) wayyy too much credit. That's what derivative implies, a copy of a copy, where you no longer see the origin of your influences. You think Deafheaven loves CF? No, they love the blog that they downloaded Belus off of when it came out and discovered Burzum and then started a band. You think the shit ton of current black death bands aren't just copying the already derivative (of Blasphemy) shit that they buy from NWN? |
| _______________________________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 2:48pm - DYA is ANALYZING THIS THREAD ""] LOL Deafheaven Surefire argument ender, there. My sides hurt |
| ________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 3:09pm - KEVORD ""] After he said Ordo Ad Chao is a good album I had already won the argument. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 12,2013 5:01pm - Headbanging_Man ""] "what" isn't relevant to nowadays RTTP. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 15,2013 9:35am - Yeti ""] wow. that bordered on sexual tension. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 15,2013 9:49am - ark ""] Ordo Ad Chao is a good record. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 15,2013 9:54am - ark ""] KEVORD said:As someone who was alive in the early 90's I can say we where all importing albums from Emperor, Enslaved, Darkthrone, Burzum........and no one ever mentioned ordering Death Crush. Deathcrush is not a good record. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 15,2013 10:05am - ark ""] When you say Mayhem is no longer relevant, what you are doing is parroting the same garbage that clueless hip music "journalists" and frustrated grandiose blog/forum dwellers are selling. No he's not. He's saying they're no longer relevant in the sense they were a fleeting part of a picture in time that was second wave BM. I get what you mean -- that using the word "relevant" implies "you need to be new and hip and get with the times and read Brooklynvegan" but he's really just saying Mayhem's past significance is inflated in mythology. No need to stir up your baggage about the subject. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 10:09am - arilliusbm ""] ^That's what I was trying to say, but yours is much better and concise. |
| _______________________________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 10:49am - DYA is TRAINING HIS CHOCOBO ""] So, in other words, http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1358161383_original.gif |
| _______________________________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 10:51am - DYA is TRAINING HIS CHOCOBO ""] derp me hotlink gud [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 10:57am - arilliusbm ""] Portlandia? I am disappoint. |
| _______________________________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 11:01am - DYA is TRAINING HIS CHOCOBO ""] Not caught up on the new season? |
| _______________________________ [Jul 15,2013 11:02am - ark ""] LOL |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 11:03am - arilliusbm ""] No Steve Buscemi, no care. |
| _______________________________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 11:12am - DYA is TRAINING HIS CHOCOBO ""] SHUT THE FUCK UP, DONNY [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 11:26am - arilliusbm ""] Steve Buscemi is the best actor of all time. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 11:54am - Crime Boss Joe Cabot ""] arilliusbm said:Steve Buscemi is the best actor of all time. Who didn't tip? [img] |
| _______________________________ [Jul 15,2013 1:29pm - what ""] ark said:When you say Mayhem is no longer relevant, what you are doing is parroting the same garbage that clueless hip music "journalists" and frustrated grandiose blog/forum dwellers are selling. No he's not. He's saying they're no longer relevant in the sense they were a fleeting part of a picture in time that was second wave BM. I get what you mean -- that using the word "relevant" implies "you need to be new and hip and get with the times and read Brooklynvegan" but he's really just saying Mayhem's past significance is inflated in mythology. No need to stir up your baggage about the subject. I'm willing to concede that point. What it looked like to me was discounting Mayhem's last record just on account of their being irrelevant now. Which would be lame, but I can see the other valid way of looking at it. Agreed Deathcrush isn't good and most of their output after De Mysteriis, the Maniac stuff is not great either. I think Ordo Ad Chao is different and redeemed them. Fuck it. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 15,2013 1:29pm - Yeti ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 1:50pm - Official RTTP Greeting ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 1:58pm - RTTP REFEREE ""] what said: ark said:When you say Mayhem is no longer relevant, what you are doing is parroting the same garbage that clueless hip music "journalists" and frustrated grandiose blog/forum dwellers are selling. No he's not. He's saying they're no longer relevant in the sense they were a fleeting part of a picture in time that was second wave BM. I get what you mean -- that using the word "relevant" implies "you need to be new and hip and get with the times and read Brooklynvegan" but he's really just saying Mayhem's past significance is inflated in mythology. No need to stir up your baggage about the subject. I'm willing to concede that point. What it looked like to me was discounting Mayhem's last record just on account of their being irrelevant now. Which would be lame, but I can see the other valid way of looking at it. Agreed Deathcrush isn't good and most of their output after De Mysteriis, the Maniac stuff is not great either. I think Ordo Ad Chao is different and redeemed them. Fuck it. *whistle* PENALTY - DISPUTING THE CALL AFTER PUNCHING OUT. POSSESSION OF THE BALL WILL RETURN TO ARK AND A FIVE POST PENALTY WILL BE ASSESSED. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 15,2013 3:27pm - scottfromzircon ""] I'll support! Perpetual Winter! |
| _______________________________ [Sep 18,2014 4:01pm - but? ""] but? |
| ________________________________ [Sep 18,2014 6:30pm - xmikex ""] A year later and time laughs in the cynical face of RTTP again. Nope...wait... this was a huge failure and we were all right. AGAIN. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 21,2014 8:30pm - WOLFKVLT ""] I'M READY TO JOIN THE LEGION WOLFKVLT. ONLY MURRUM IS REAL. I WORSHIP SATAN ALONE IN THE WOODS! HAIL THE LEGION! AVE SATANAS! |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 21,2014 10:11pm - Veritas ""] KEVORD said:Mayhem is relevant to nowadays black metal as much as Death to All is relevant to nowadays death metal. "Relevance" is the battlecry of the trendhopper, and you're leading the charge. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 22,2014 7:07am - Bycraby ""] Hipster raised on NPR and Metalsucks says what? |