Old school vs. New school Zelda
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[Oct 12,2008 3:19pm - Martins ""]
Yesterday my friend berated me for not having played the new Zeldas (ie. N64, Gamecube/Wii ones) and I rebutted that I can't get used to a 3D Zelda. Am I wrong? Are the new ones REALLY worth playing?
[Oct 12,2008 3:21pm - the_reverend ""]
I like the one on the wii
[Oct 12,2008 3:30pm - Martins ""]
I can't stand Wiimotes. AT ALL.
[Oct 12,2008 3:35pm - ........ ""]
fuck yeah, the first Zelda 64 is fucking incredible. best one ever imo.
[Oct 12,2008 3:35pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
the only ones you need to concern yourself with is the SNES one and the Minish Cap. the 3d ones are for faggots that wish they knew what zelda was about.
[Oct 12,2008 3:38pm - Martins ""]
Well, I really liked DX. That one was awesome.
[Oct 12,2008 3:47pm - the_reverend ""]
my ds was stolen before I could beat minish.
the 3D ones are awesome gamewise and thw iimotes make the games awesome. though the story lines are questionable.
[Oct 12,2008 3:54pm - Martins ""]
I can't stand Wiimotes. They're not responsive enough and not very intuitive.
[Oct 12,2008 4:17pm - aril ""]
Martins, my friend, I've been ostrasized by a group of my friends who believe the 3d Zeldas are the best ones. I've always insisted that Zelda was meant for being played in 2d. My favorite Zelda of all time is Zelda: Link's Awakening for GB. I got that game the day it came out, and was immediately hooked because it's the most mysterious / dark Zelda game IMO.
I also love the music in the game and actually covered the theme of the FaceShrine.
[Oct 12,2008 5:36pm - Pires ""]
Ocarina of Time is actually amazing. Probably the best one. I've played most of them, minus the Game Boy ones and the new one for Wii, but it's safe to say that Ocarina is easily the best one. The first one for NES and Links Awakening for SNES come in a close 2nd and 3rd. Majoras Mask for the 64 was blah. Not bad, but not great either.
[Oct 12,2008 6:17pm - boine nli ""]
all zeldas have been great with the exception of 2 and best thing to come out of 3D ones was the hyrule symphony cd
[Oct 12,2008 9:13pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
Adventure of Link is probably my favorite one, then LttP and Twilight Princess
[Oct 12,2008 9:16pm - the_reverend ""]
lttp was the best, best balance of story and action. the ds remake was good too.
[Oct 12,2008 9:27pm - Martins ""]
aril said:Martins, my friend, I've been ostrasized by a group of my friends who believe the 3d Zeldas are the best ones. I've always insisted that Zelda was meant for being played in 2d. My favorite Zelda of all time is Zelda: Link's Awakening for GB. I got that game the day it came out, and was immediately hooked because it's the most mysterious / dark Zelda game IMO.
I also love the music in the game and actually covered the theme of the FaceShrine.
You know, I've always had a good feeling about you. That is easily my favorite one. DX is the color version of that game and it's fucking amazing. I think I'm going to start emulating it very soon. Or buy it.
[Oct 12,2008 9:29pm - Martins ""]
I also like Oracle of Seasons and Ages.
[Oct 12,2008 10:09pm - Whoremastery ""]
ocarina of time is the best game ever!!!! play it!!!!
[Oct 12,2008 10:12pm - Whoremastery ""]
ive been dying to play the new one..but i dont want to buy a wii..what is the difference between the game cube version and the wii???????
[Oct 12,2008 10:16pm - Lamp ""]
Ocarina of Time is a great game, I don't believe that Zelda was tarnished by 3D at all. Metroid on the other hand...
[Oct 12,2008 10:31pm - Martins ""]
To Whoremastery: Controls and a bit of graphics.
[Oct 13,2008 12:34am - Whoremastery ""]
to martins: thanx!!! i dont care to do the insane wii ninja chops in my room...are the graphics that different???..looks the same on any online pics i see..as song as the story is the same..id rather play it the old fashioned way on game cube..finding it hard to find it on game cube..but consoles are everywhere exp... at the raynham flea market..i need to play the game regardless...
zelda is the best vid game no matter what game or stage in its existance you play it!!
cant wait for the movie in april...trailer looked sick!!
[Oct 13,2008 12:24pm - i_am_lazy ""]
Link to the Past is by far the best.
Odd for me to say, being the NES guy.
[Oct 13,2008 1:00pm - Yeti ""]
yeah i don't care much for games that started as 2D and ended up 3D. i hated Mario 64. the only one i care for is Castlevania 64, but its not a spectacular game. compared to the brilliance of Symphony of the Night its a pile of shit. i haven't played Ocarina of Time but its been recommended several times.
[Oct 13,2008 2:19pm - Lamp ""]
Yeti said:i hated Mario 64.
What didn't you like about it? Maybe it was because I was still an impressionable kid when the N64 came out (9 years old to be exact) but I thought it was a great game...not a Mario game in the traditional sense but still groundbreaking.
[Oct 13,2008 2:23pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
The 3d ones for N64 were instant classics; you're really missing out on some great additions to the Zelda canon and the Zelda gameplay if you don't check them out. Sorry, 2d posers - expand your horizons and stop trying to be retro. LOOLZ
[Oct 13,2008 2:33pm - Martins ""]
Whoremastery said:to martins: thanx!!! i dont care to do the insane wii ninja chops in my room...are the graphics that different???..looks the same on any online pics i see..as song as the story is the same..id rather play it the old fashioned way on game cube..finding it hard to find it on game cube..but consoles are everywhere exp... at the raynham flea market..i need to play the game regardless...
zelda is the best vid game no matter what game or stage in its existance you play it!!
cant wait for the movie in april...trailer looked sick!!
From what I've seen, the graphics are only marginally different.
[Oct 13,2008 3:20pm - Yeti ""]
Lamp said:
Yeti said:i hated Mario 64.
What didn't you like about it? Maybe it was because I was still an impressionable kid when the N64 came out (9 years old to be exact) but I thought it was a great game...not a Mario game in the traditional sense but still groundbreaking.
i can only remember disliking it from when it came out. i can't say i would still hate it now, but i haven't played it in ages.
[Oct 13,2008 3:57pm - Lamp ""]
It's a lot less frustrating to control than Super Mario Sunshine...
[Oct 13,2008 4:11pm - ZJD ""]
I have played all the console Zeldas and think they are all essential if you like Zelda at all.
Also, the only 3D mario I've played is Mario64 and Mario Galaxy. I think both are amazing games.
[Oct 13,2008 6:06pm - aril ""]
I'm sorry - I'm not going to stop believing that Zelda is meant for 2d. It's primarily an adventure-based overhead dungeon crawler game.
I'm not a huge fan of 3d remakes of any games whatsever. It takes the imagination out of the games. I'm sure they are good games, but I feel uneasy playing them because it goes against my belief system.
I've had this discussion with Martins (?) too, I think, about the Final Fantasy games. To me, I think the series stopped with FF6(3). FF7 was a great game, but I think it lacked some serious elements. The graphics and cartoon looking characters completely ruined it for me.
I also can't stand the new ones; all the characters look like girls and/or not as rugged as the characters of old.
Stick me in a room with every system up to PS1 and call it a day.
Modern video games suck. Only modern FPS's are real.
[Oct 13,2008 6:07pm - aril ""]
BTW DYA, I believe I need my Links Awakening cartridge back. Your above statement has struck a nerve.
[Oct 13,2008 7:17pm - sinistas ""]
http://zeldaclassic.armageddongames.net/index.php
[Oct 13,2008 8:01pm - Martins ""]
aril said:I'm sorry - I'm not going to stop believing that Zelda is meant for 2d. It's primarily an adventure-based overhead dungeon crawler game.
I'm not a huge fan of 3d remakes of any games whatsever. It takes the imagination out of the games. I'm sure they are good games, but I feel uneasy playing them because it goes against my belief system.
I've had this discussion with Martins (?) too, I think, about the Final Fantasy games. To me, I think the series stopped with FF6(3). FF7 was a great game, but I think it lacked some serious elements. The graphics and cartoon looking characters completely ruined it for me.
I also can't stand the new ones; all the characters look like girls and/or not as rugged as the characters of old.
Stick me in a room with every system up to PS1 and call it a day.
Modern video games suck. Only modern FPS's are real.
Yeah we've had our e-discussions on this. You can call me by my real name now haha (Brian). I can now see why you think the later FFs aren't amazing but I still think that the plots make it worthwhile. I play RPG's because it's an alternative to reading with all the perks of really fun things to do while you're doing it. The graphics come second but they've never disappointed.
I also hate FPSs. (Because I suck at them.)
[Oct 13,2008 10:40pm - Whoremastery ""]
for those who never played o.o.t. for 64...play it...you will love it!!! best game ever!
[Oct 14,2008 8:18am - ouchdrummer ""]
I agree with everyone who said "A link to the past". That one was a masterpiece. Hours, and hours of time spent on that one. I really liked one and two as well on NES although two proves to be hard in an entirely different skillset. I still really liked link though.
[Oct 14,2008 2:49pm - aril ""]
Effective 14 October, 2008, and in consideration of other people's opinions, it is hereby declared that any Zelda 16bit or below are the best ones.
All Zeldas 64bit or above are considered FALSE and unworthy of being a Zelda title.
[Oct 14,2008 2:53pm - aril ""]
/THREAD
[Oct 14,2008 2:57pm - ouchdrummer ""]
aril said:Effective 14 October, 2008, and in consideration of other people's opinions, it is hereby declared that any Zelda 16bit or below are the best ones.
All Zeldas 64bit or above are considered FALSE and unworthy of being a Zelda title.
while i totally agree, some of my buds that are real gamers like the 64 one quite a bit.
[Oct 14,2008 3:20pm - darkwor ""]
zelda: ocarina of time (64) is the #1 ranked game of all time on gamerankings and i guess that says something.
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197771.asp
if any video game fan hasn't played zelda64, wtf are you doing. it's on my top 5 list along with super metroid, chrono trigger, half-life 2 and metal gear solid 2.
the NES zelda games were great but i can't get into playing them today. the SNES zelda is a total masterpiece though. i still consider the ocarina of time the best one.
[Oct 14,2008 3:23pm - darkwor ""]
aril said:/THREAD
oops. thread is closed people :whipper:
[Oct 14,2008 3:25pm - aril ""]
i've played Z64 and didn't like it one bit.
ever since I read they were making a Z64 that was essentially first person, I puked. regardless of the story, regardless of the music, regardless of anything that is 'good' about the game, I won't like it.
To me, Vagrant story is what Z64 SHOULD have looked like/been. It has a much more dark/sinister feel and is a complete dungeon-based game.
Once Zelda went cartoony on me, it lost its mysterious feel.
To sum up any Zelda post 16bit (and any true fan should get this): "I AM ERROR"
[Oct 14,2008 3:26pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
darkwor said:zelda: ocarina of time (64) is the #1 ranked game of all time on gamerankings and i guess that says something.
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197771.asp
if any video game fan hasn't played zelda64, wtf are you doing. it's on my top 5 list along with super metroid, chrono trigger, half-life 2 and metal gear solid 2.
the NES zelda games were great but i can't get into playing them today. the SNES zelda is a total masterpiece though. i still consider the ocarina of time the best one.
yeah... you said MGS2... um... yeah....
*shakes head*
[Oct 14,2008 3:28pm - darkwor ""]
aril said:
To me, Vagrant story is what Z64 SHOULD have looked like/been.
i've been looking for this game for YEARS. i can't even find a torrent of it. HELP.
[Oct 14,2008 3:30pm - darkwor ""]
TheGreatSpaldino said:
yeah... you said MGS2... um... yeah....
*shakes head*
hahaha...i'm aware it's not a popular opinion. let me blast a list of your fav games
[Oct 14,2008 3:37pm - aril ""]
I've got it. If you have a PS1, I MAY let you borrow it. Since you're into some nice black metal, too. DYA currently has my Link's Awakening Cartridge but I'm itching to play that. I'm hoping he didn't lose it.
[Oct 14,2008 3:39pm - aril ""]
And by the way, someone else please tell me they've played Vagrant Story.
It's definitely one of the most underrated/underplayed PS1 games because it came out during the very end of it. It's such a dark game and has some awesome boss fights.
[Oct 14,2008 3:42pm - darkwor ""]
i have a modded ps2 and all i need is a proper burned copy of it. if i looked realllllll hard i could find a cdimage on the internet, but so far i haven't been able to. it's rare enough that ebay has it for 30-50 bucks.
[Oct 14,2008 3:46pm - aril ""]
well, you're friends with jim.. I'm sure we'll cross paths someday at a brewfest and i'll have vagrant story in my hand
[Oct 14,2008 3:53pm - darkwor ""]
very true. sounds good.
...zelda hater
[Oct 14,2008 3:53pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
darkwor said:
TheGreatSpaldino said:
yeah... you said MGS2... um... yeah....
*shakes head*
hahaha...i'm aware it's not a popular opinion. let me blast a list of your fav games
World of Warcraft
Uniracers
Megaman X
Tactics Ogre (psx one)
Gran Turismo 2
Silent Hill 2
King of Fighters XI
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Intelligent Qube
[Oct 14,2008 3:54pm - aril ""]
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zelda lover.
only true zeldas though. no cartoon crap. EXCUUUUUUSEEE MEEE, princess.