so, what's everyone doing for indigenous people genocide day? you know, "thanksgiving"[views:2965][posts:28]_____________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:26pm - HailTheLeaf ""] I donno why I didn't think of it this way before...my incredibly uptight ancestors got tossed from England and basically invaded (or immigrated) to this already populated land. Then, because they couldn't survive in the real world, only one built on land ownership, shinny metal and an "economy", they almost starved/froze to death. The Wampanoag Indians saved their asses, they'd been surviving there for thousands of years. The Wampanoag people gave them land, and basically showed them how to survive. In 1692, when everything was still cool and somewhat respectful following the Pilgrims first winter, there was a harvest feast. Thus the "history" of thanksgiving. But by 1637, Massachusetts Gov. John Winthrop proclaimed a thanksgiving for the successful massacre of hundreds of Pequot Indian men, women and children. Nice guy huh? This was of course part of the long and bloody process of opening up (stealing) additional land for the English invaders. The pattern would repeat itself across the continent until between 95 and 99 percent of Native Indians had been exterminated and the rest were left to assimilate into white society or die off on reservations, out of the view of polite society. There's something to celebrate...we have such a great history. Now it's a day of fat Americans gourging themselves on the spoils of an empire that started with the genocide of native indians and continues with our illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. I'm gonna to my mom's house and eat too much hybrid turkey raised in a factory farm under conditions of pain and squalor with a healthy diet of chemical-infused feed, and stuffed with a long list of antibiotics to control rhinotracheitis and colibacillosis. It'll be washed in clorine before it hits the supermarket too, sweet! |
| _______________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:30pm - Yeti ""] yeah but the native americans have been reaping the benefits of a long awaited revenge. the same problem that stole their land, they are now taking advantage of. greed. they own the casinos that the english folk go and blow their life savings at. granted its not mass genocide, but at least they are contributing to the collapse of many a weak mans life. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:33pm - sacreligion ""] apache chief...ee nay chok! |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:36pm - HailTheLeaf ""] Come on, gambling? Casinos are supposed to make up for stealing an entire continent, mass murder, and wiping out entire cultures? Not to mention what we've done to the place... |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:37pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] shouldnt you be reading or watching a Michael Moore film. i think if people on here wanna hear this type of banter, they'd just go and watch a simpsons thanksgiving episode |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:43pm - Dj Death ""] Sorry to bust your asian balls Leafey, but im sure Englands ancestors could survive without the help of natives when they began heavily migrating here. Yes, we stole their land, we should still be in Europe, but hey, Life is a giant chess game, and us Euros have passed the pawns over the line and obtained more queens! We fought for it, oh well. They were savages too, but i understand why (I would be too if some immigrant was trying to take over the land by force). Hail the OverMan! |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:52pm - HailTheLeaf ""] don't you have a country to invade? |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 1:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Ancestry's a funny thing. One the one side, I've got some serious off-the-Mayflower types, all English, Welsh, and a dab of Scottish, real Puritan assholes. Then on the other, I've got Irish, Scottish and some native in there somewhere - all the shit-end-of-the-stick folks. (There's a bit of German on that side, too, but that fucks up my ridiculous little theory, so we'll pretend that there's not.) I owe myself a land grant. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 2:03pm - litacore ""] I fucking hate Thanksgiving but I love that part in Addams Family Values when Wednesday Addams (dressed as a squaw) turns the tables on whitey. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 2:04pm - HailTheLeaf ""] I'm a European mutt...with one side straight off the Mayflower, and I like eating turkey, don't get me wrong, but why ignore the real history side of it, especially in relation to our past and current culture and situation? |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 2:06pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] im irish, we have nothing to do with histroy wooooooooooo hoo |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 3:30pm - anonymous ""] real history is an oxymoron. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 3:37pm - jesus nli ""] i have some mik maq blood in me. damn you pale face bastards |
| ______________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 3:42pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:im irish, we have nothing to do with histroy wooooooooooo hoo We get to have tails and fight Black and Tans. YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 3:44pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] jennsen you're so getting an atomic wedgie for that, i refuse the beer and i also dont eat potato either ! well unless it comes in chip or fry form |
| _____________________________________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 3:48pm - ryanfromhbbsi still isnt fucking logged in ""] my family emigrated here around the ww-1 era. we also have nothing to do with history |
| ______________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 3:55pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Yeah my family didn't eat potatoes because they were too busy starving to death. Why they didn't leave until 1905 is beyond comprehension. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 4:08pm - dreadkill ""] i'm part european and indigenous people, that's why i hate myself so much on thanksgiving. |
| _______________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 4:11pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] The English left England because of changes in the Christian church. They wanted to remain puritan assholes so they flocked here and when they saw the Indians they branded them savage devil worshippers and decided it was time to " Christianize " them and take the land... Blame it all on that shitty hebrew religion... |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 4:12pm - dreadkill ""] damn jewbergs |
| _________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 7:05pm - soloman ""] i fucking love thanksgiving. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 7:51pm - sinofangels-ray ""] Thanks For the land suckkas!!!!!!!!! I give thanks for invasions of foreign lands and imposing our superior moral will on the World!!!!!! |
| ____________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 9:21pm - Radical_Dirt_Biker ""] i ride my bike off of hipies stupid gay chins |
| _______________________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 9:58pm - thee trOO Radical Dirt Biker ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 10:14pm - Ryan_M, not logged in ""] a lot of people seem to feel bad for the native american indians losing their land, but i wonder if people would feel the same if it were the dot-head indians? i bet no one would give even half a shit about them! "ehh cen i git a discount?" "i'm sorry we can't give discounts to people who smell like an anus...store policy" anyone who works in retail knows what i mean!:spineyes: |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 23,2005 11:10pm - Dankill ""] I'm also claiming Irishness here. We came off the boat in the late 19th century. Also, Sam, it's called human progress. It's what human beings do best. Break shit, kill people and take what they can. We've been doing it in all cultures for thousands of years and it ain't gonna change. Violence is the default setting for humanity. I'll eat my turkey and like it. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 24,2005 1:05am - davefromthegrave ""] I was born in America. that makes me techbnically a native american. so suck my cock you cherokee/chippewa/blackfoot/whatever faggots |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 24,2005 1:06am - davefromthegrave ""] I'm doing everything for thanksgiving that doesn't involve giving a fuck |
| _____________________________ [Nov 24,2005 1:10am - pam ""] I just baked 3 pies...I feel so domesticated. Going to mother in laws to eat until I'm even fatter, be bored while everyone watches football and then probably get high with my father in law. |