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[QUOTE="BestialOnslaught:397812"]JayTUS nli said:[QUOTE]If he was unclear on that, then shame on him[/QUOTE] No, no, no. Shame on him for invoking pay-to-play tactics, no matter how up front he might have been. And shame on any bands that work with him and help keep promoters like this in business. A guy makes a few phonecalls and emails to set up a show and is somehow entitled to have the opening bands suddenly shell out all the headliner's guarantee up front so he takes on no financial risk? He's entitled to sit back and make the bands do all the flyering and ticket selling, then to grab a piece of the back-end if the show does well? How exactly is he doing any promoting work, if that is the case? It is most definitely the job of bands to try to get their friends, acquaintances and fans in the door when they play, on an implied level. Their actual job IS to show up and play though, the promoter's actual job is to supply financial guarantees and create public awareness about the event, the venue's job is to supply advance tickets if it's the kind of show where that's necessary. Of course it's in the best interest of bands, especially in, say, the underground Metal scene, to get as many people in the door as possible, but in traditional performance industry terms, show promotion really does not fall under the job description of performers. Try to paint any face on it you like, pay-to-play will still always be for FUCKING SCUMBAGS.[/QUOTE]
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