PRIDE v. UFC[views:11651][posts:66][poll! to vote:click here] to view:click here] _______________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:04pm - hung_to_bleed ""] Pride fucking owns UFC, nuff' said. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:06pm - Kevord ""] Do you mean WWE? Cause if you mean 1980's WWF that owns. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:09pm - CNV ""] UFC hands down better fighters No one is better than Chuck Liddell |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:10pm - hung_to_bleed ""] Kevord said:Do you mean WWE? Cause if you mean 1980's WWF that owns. what the fuck is WWE? |
| ________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:15pm - Kevord ""] hung_to_bleed said:Kevord said:Do you mean WWE? Cause if you mean 1980's WWF that owns. what the fuck is WWE? World wrestling entertainment. What the WWF changed there name to over 5 years ago. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:15pm - CNV ""] Babbalu, the brazilian Pride fighter just got his clock cleaned by the Iceman in I think it was 95 seconds of the first round Liddell is the hardest striker in the UFC and would Barney Rubble any Pride fighter |
| __________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:34pm - powerkok ""] Liddell is awesome. Unfortunately, he is one of the 5 great fighters in the ufc, and to say he would beat any Pride fighter, is just plain ridiculous. Pride has many more top fighters, and is more entertaining. Especially lately, the UFC looks like B class fights, compared to pride. Of course, Fedor would own EVERY HW in UFC, as Cro Cop would own any LHW in UFC, Liddell included. Although, that would be a good match, it would be bad for Chuck. UFC is becoming quite lame lately, with the build up and let downs, (Liddell vs. Silva), Hughes vs GSP, now Hughes vs Penn ( which will be ok, still), All these TUF noobs getting b class brawls on national tv....Griffin excluded. I could go on and on about this, but Ill sum it up with.....Pride, at this moment, OWNS UFC. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:36pm - powerkok ""] Speaking of wwf...I just watched a documentary about the ultimate warrior. HAHAHA...pretty interesting, he was a strange man. Oh and let me say that Professional wrestling is GAY! |
| ______________________________ [Sep 11,2006 6:42pm - DOM ""] I'd take the World Wildlife Fund over that stuff any day. |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 7:59pm - thegreatspaldino ""] Sorry, Pride rapes the UFC... Cro Cop and Fedor > everyone in the UFC. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 11,2006 8:01pm - ocr ""] chuck liddell make a cameo in blade the tv series he got his ass beat down by blade |
| _____________________________ [Sep 11,2006 8:03pm - pam ""] Pride all the way. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 8:09pm - Nobody_Cares ""] I enjoy Pride much more. Does UFC have a 10 min round? Blade on the TV series is played by Sticky Fingaz from Onyx. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 9:18pm - Joshtruction ""] I think crocop vs lidell would be a great fight. Could go either way. I do remember lidell doing that UFC vs. Pride thi ng and kicking some total ass by showing he can destroy pride so I stuck my vote with UFC. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 11,2006 9:25pm - CNV ""] pride picks up all the losers in the UFC I would put Liddell up against Cro Crap any day of the week And powerkok, I am going to have to remind ya that Tim Sylvia beat arlovski My prediction rang true, hehe |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 9:46pm - Joshtruction ""] Tim sylvia looks like a much worse fighter than he is because of his big lazy looking style. |
| _____________________________ [Sep 11,2006 9:49pm - Dar ""] Powerkok is the only one here who knows what he's talking about UFC is the little leagues compared to pride, their heavyweight division is a total joke. Liddell is good, yeah. Matt Hughes is good. Everyone else? Uhh... Chuck Liddell even fought a few fights in Pride, and they weren't pretty. He has gotten a lot better since then, though. Not only does Pride have a higher level of competition, but it's more entertaining too. 10 minute rounds, the yellow card system to keep things moving, and honestly I think their refs are better. UFC over the past year has just sucked, I've regretted every PPV I ordered |
| ______________________________ [Sep 11,2006 9:54pm - CNV ""] pride just picked up Mike Tyson washed up nigroid Now who is the joke |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 9:56pm - Joshtruction ""] Dar said:Powerkok is the only one here who knows what he's talking about UFC is the little leagues compared to pride, their heavyweight division is a total joke. Liddell is good, yeah. Matt Hughes is good. Everyone else? Uhh... Chuck Liddell even fought a few fights in Pride, and they weren't pretty. He has gotten a lot better since then, though. Not only does Pride have a higher level of competition, but it's more entertaining too. 10 minute rounds, the yellow card system to keep things moving, and honestly I think their refs are better. UFC over the past year has just sucked, I've regretted every PPV I ordered yes all the PPV's for the last year have sucked ass sure. I give you that. But do you not remember "pride vs. UFC" when lidell went and kicked EVERYONE's ass tournament style? Carlos Newton talking all kinds of shit how pride fighters are better and blah blah blah and jsut got knocked the fuck out. I do like prides yellow card system, but I hate how they are i9n a ring and when they get close to the ropes they have to restart them. that anooys the shit out of me. I like a cage with some good scoot up tight ground and pound. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 10:37pm - Cecchini ""] pride is wayyyy more intense that UFC, but at the same time UFC was essentially forced to water itself down if they wanted to find any measure of success here. if UFC wasn't in a way handicapped by that, i bet this would be a much more fair comparison. |
| __________________________________________________ [Sep 11,2006 11:28pm - theaccurseddrummer nli ""] Joshtruction said:yes all the PPV's for the last year have sucked ass sure. I give you that. But do you not remember "pride vs. UFC" when lidell went and kicked EVERYONE's ass tournament style? Carlos Newton talking all kinds of shit how pride fighters are better and blah blah blah and jsut got knocked the fuck out. I do like prides yellow card system, but I hate how they are i9n a ring and when they get close to the ropes they have to restart them. that anooys the shit out of me. I like a cage with some good scoot up tight ground and pound. I do remember Chuck beating Guy Mezger and Alistair Overeem, but did you see him fight Quinton Rampage Jackson? Chuck got the shit beaten out of him. He stands no chance against fighters like Cro Cop. Newton has a decent Pride record actually, but a lot of the UFC guys that go to Pride do OK. The cage is great, and the ring sucks, but Pride fighters are just better all around. No UFC heavyweight would even be top 5 in Pride, Chuck might be a contender, but not likely. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Sep 12,2006 11:54am - babayshaker not logged in ""] ufc payperviews are horrible the main event lasts like 2 minutes at the most and its mostly some one getting jewed. also to many fighters from that stupid reality show are getting big t.v time and shit when they dont deserve it |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 12,2006 12:05pm - the jakeman ""] fedor would punch sylvia's face out the back of his head. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 12,2006 12:24pm - powerkok ""] CNV, yea man, you were right, the whole time I was yelling at my TV at AA to "SHOOT YOU STUPID RUSKI, SHOOT!!" He never did, and it cost him the fight. BUT!!! It went to a desicion....therefore proving that Sylvia couldnt even knock out 'glass jaw' AA!! UFC top fighters: Liddell Hughes GSP Griffin (yep) Couture (although retired) Prides top fighters: Too many to type, but just a few Fedor Aleksander Cro Cop Silva (I hate him) Sakuraba Coleman Noguiera Rua etc..... I say put Bob Sapp against Sylvia for a boost in UFC HW ratings, thatd be a funny ass fight. Also.... Bas Rutten is the fucking man, no matter where or what he is doing. The guy could read a newspaper and PWN!! |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 12,2006 12:25pm - powerkok ""] the jakeman said:fedor would punch sylvia's face out the back of his head. and that would just be a left Jab. Although Fedor's left jab is like a Sylvia Right Haymaker. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 12,2006 12:29pm - powerkok ""] CNV said:pride just picked up Mike Tyson washed up nigroid Now who is the joke Ya, that was a silly move on Prides part, but since they are making their first american event, they figured a name like Tyson would gain interst to UFC biased fans. IF he does fight, it will be 'special rules boxing' ONLY. (punches, kicks, no takedowns, no subs) I'd like to see him fight someone like Mark Hunt or Randleman. He MIGHT have a chance. |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 12,2006 12:46pm - Frank Shamrock ""] Cro Cop is a fuckin heavyweight. Chuck is a light heavy weight. Tim Sylvia would probably knock out Wanderlei Silva, dosn't prove anything. Pride overall, has the better fighters then the UFC. Heavyweight is no comparison. Pride destroys the UFC in the Heavyweight division, which is probably the most important division. Light Heavy, edge goes to Pride as well, but not by as wide a margin. Liddell is widely regarded as the #1 light heavy in the World, with Silva aslo argued to be in that spot. Couture, Ortiz and Babalu are excellent fighters and would hang with any light heavy from pride, though probably lose. They all were destroed by the Ice Man because he forced them to stand. Middleweight. Edge UFC with Franklin, Silva, and Crow. Welterweight. Again, edge UFC with Hughes, St. Pierre and Penn. Lightweight. Even, or edge to Pride. Pride definitley puts together better cards then UFC, but does subject us to ridiculous cans and no contest fights. I much prefer the octagon to the cage, and believe both orgs. should allow elbows, soccer kicks and knees to downed opponents. One last thing folks, the UFC is doing much better financially at the moment then Pride. Pride is in deep trouble if they don't break through hear in the US. The terrible production, cheesy presentation etc. are going to make it different. Pride have trouble reaching the American culture. |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 12,2006 2:15pm - sarahterrorsucks ""] chuck liddell!!!!! |
| _________________________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 5:45pm - MilitechFightingSystems ""] You're on dope. Pride is mostly for washed up ex-UFC fighters who couldnt hang. When UFC fighters lose around 3 fights in a row, they go right to Pride, or fight Pancrase, or Rumble on the Rock, or some other queer bullshit. Oh no, Chuck Liddell is the hardest hitter at 205 in the world. Liddell FLOORPUNCHED poor ol Kevin Randleman, then Randleman beat Crocop with a Big Barn Door left hook. And who was in RANDLEMAN'S CORNER when he blew up Crocop? CHUCK LIDDELL!!! Chuck told him how to beat him, and he DID! So if Chuck knocked out Randleman with 1 hit, and Randleman knocked out Crocop with 1 hit and some ground and pound, do the math. Crocop has the hardest left kick in the world and good punching power, not much else. Although I like Crocop, Cropcop at 205-220 would get Barney Rubbled into the mat by Chuck Liddell. Barring the left kick connecting. Pride has a few bankable fighters, mainly Vanderlai Silva, Crocop, and yes, Fedor. Fedor is a Machine, and would pretty much wipe out anyone in the world. The guy is the Terminator. But other than that, people really dont care for Japanese Bushido bullshit. yeah, some of the Rock Em, Sock Em robots type shit is fun to watch, but Pride has many more washed up ex-UFC talent than it does bankable names. ie: See Loudmouth Loser Phil Baroni. He couldnt hack it in the UFC, so he went right to Pride, because he knew he might be able to stand up and knockout most of those Jap fighters without gassing out. Baroni says, who needs conditioning? And Mark Coleman and Kevin Randleman too. Watch out for those guys, the washed up crew!!! I still love watching Liddell throw the Pylon Punch at Alister Overeem, watching Overeem's face contort into weird shapes. Blown up, blown out. Unfortunately for Chuck though, Rampage got a lucky trip on him and landed on his chest, knocking the wind out of Chuck and getting the win. But it seems Rampage is all washed up now, and cant beat Vanderlai or any other notable talent. I truely believe Chuck would still like to avenge that loss. He has layed some of the best to waste. I'd like to see the Militech Camp go over to Pride and wipe the place out. Throw Chuck in the Militech Camp and you have the most dominant Fighting System in the world. All have the Championship Belts....... Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, Liddell, and Tim Sylvia. One of my faves, Vernon "tiger" White gets the patented stiff-right, AKA "THE BOOF! PUNCH". BOOF, you're done. [img] |
| __________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 6:30pm - powerkok ""] MilitechFightingSystems said:Pride is mostly for washed up ex-UFC fighters who couldnt hang. When UFC fighters lose around 3 fights in a row, they go right to Pride, or fight Pancrase, or Rumble on the Rock, or some other queer bullshit. The fact that you said that alone, shows me that you are a Tuf Noob Liddell nuthugger. Youve probably never even watched Pat Militich fight. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 6:33pm - powerkok ""] Just remember this....Chuck is on top of the game right now, in his weight. But he is 36. MAYBE 4 more years until your hero is an announcer. |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 8:11pm - dwellingsickness ""] I liked UFC when it was not sanctioned by the state athletic commission |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 8:14pm - xanonymousx ""] ufc may be the top of "ultimate fighting" here in america,but do they have bob sapp? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nj2RPyR0FQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD98ZdQH5gU |
| _________________________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 9:51pm - MilitechFightingSystems ""] powerkok said:MilitechFightingSystems said:Pride is mostly for washed up ex-UFC fighters who couldnt hang. When UFC fighters lose around 3 fights in a row, they go right to Pride, or fight Pancrase, or Rumble on the Rock, or some other queer bullshit. The fact that you said that alone, shows me that you are a Tuf Noob Liddell nuthugger. Youve probably never even watched Pat Militich fight. doubt it chowdah. Actually, I have seen 95% of Pat's fights, the rest are dark matches and unavailable. Truely though, the only noob to the game seems to be you, considering you couldn't even spell his last name right. Check nuts. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 10:53pm - powerkok ""] Ya, a spelling error demerits my years of compiled knowledge. damn. You referred to pancrase and pride as 'queer bullshit'.... Watch some Bas Rutten pancrase and tell me its queer, then get back to me, bub. |
| ______________________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 10:54pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Bas Rutten is a lord among men, he has more than made up for his ghey modelling career. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 10:56pm - powerkok ""] He's that guy tho. Bas cannot be touched, no matter what he does. The guy has staredowns with his 5 year old kids. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 10:59pm - powerkok ""] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=101561901291171635&q=bas+rutten DHTH....Check this video out. You will probably appreciate it. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 20,2006 11:01pm - powerkok ""] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2084244847649169584&q=bas+rutten Pat MILITECH in a dream......watch this. |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 21,2006 2:35am - dwellingsickness ""] powerkok said:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2084244847649169584&q=bas+rutten Pat MILITECH in a dream......watch this. Bas just knocks the piss outta shamrock in that ,I love it |
| ______________________________ [Sep 21,2006 3:25am - CNV ""] did Bas train Mark Kur |
| _________________________________________________ [Sep 21,2006 3:30am - MilitechFightingSystems ""] Ya, Pancrase is odd, and not much there as much as bankable talent. However Bas Rutten is great. i never said he wasnt. I think you just mentioned that to convince us your winning a pissing contest. Bas is actually one of my favorite fighters. And I was happy when I found out that he flipped off Pride and left! Now Pride has another washed-up UFC fighter in his place doing commentary.......Frank Trigg! "TWINKLETOES"! Rutten vs. Frank Shamrock were always good fights. Bas is 2/3 against Frank. But Bas could never beat Ken.....I think they should fight a 3rd match now actually. speaking of Vernon White and Bas, I remember Bas submitting ol Tiger White back in the day, in like 94. Ol school Pancrash show. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 21,2006 7:05am - Mess ""] so far Felony Fights takes the cake |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 7:36am - anonymous ""] come on |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 8:17am - Frank Shamrock ""] Bas Rutten would probably knock out Ken Shamrock in under 2 minutes should they fight today. Bas Rutten is indeed, a god amongst men. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 9:45am - powerkok ""] cnv, ya, Bas did train Mark Kerr.....but only for a few months. rent 'The Smashing Machine' its a good doc about Kerrs fights and dope addiction. Anyone see Rich Franklin get muay thai kneed to death? new ufc middleweight and lightweight champs @UFC 64 |
| __________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 9:46am - powerkok ""] Frank Shamrock said:Bas Rutten would probably knock out Ken Shamrock in under 2 minutes should they fight today. Bas Rutten is indeed, a god amongst men. Id love to see a rematch now also....Bas would destroy Ken. did you see the Bas- Warpath fight? |
| _________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 10:06am - xmikex ""] [img] Who wants a peice? |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 10:15am - Frank Shamrock ""] I did indeed see the Bas - Warpath fight. Warpath has a fuckin beard of granite. Gotta give him credit for that. The current Ken Shamrock would have been sleeping after one of those right hands. Bas was just cracking him. Ken was a great fighter and a pioneer in his prime. His time away from the sport spent in pro wrestling killed him. Bas on the other hand is a world class striker, who has studied the ground game extensivley during it's evolution to what we see in current MMA. Bas Rutten's punches are text book. I honestly believe that had it been Bas recently, not Ken, Tito would have had his hands full. Would Bas win, probably not. But it's very possible he lasts around, and possibly forces Tito to stand with him ala Forrest. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 10:21am - Frank Shamrock ""] BTW, Bam Bam Bigelow fought Kimo in an MMA, or at the time NHB match. Kimo destroyed him. I actually felt bad for him in a way. I've heard rumors that Bam Bam thought the match was going to be a work. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9ovOibFqM6w |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 10:26am - powerkok ""] hahaha ya I saw that fight.....It took about 3 seconds for Kimo to take him down, then it was over. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 10:27am - powerkok ""] So did you see the Franklin-Silva fight? |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 11:09am - Frank Shamrock ""] I did see the Franklin - Silva fight. I honestly thought Franklin would take it, but if he lost it would be from a punch, or combination of punches. I knew Silva had a strong clinch, but it never dawned on me that he could muscle around Rich Franklin with it. Rich is a monster at 185. Silva just cracked him in the body until he dropped his hands, then turned his nose into mooosh. Silva is a hell of a fighter to watch. I'm looking forward to watching him pile up more highlite reel KO's. I don't see anyone in the UFC Middleweight division challenging him right now. Not unless they resign Matt Lindland. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 12:03pm - spaldino@werk ""] i cant wait to see Fedor ruin some ass again. watching that guy fight is like watching someone transcend existence. Fedor really is the toughest guy around. I was watching a ton of highlight videos and he has taken some HUGE hits, get dizzied for a second and then recover and RAPE ass. like the fucking drop he took against that Demolition Man lookin black dude... he landed on his fucking HEAD from 6 feet up and then turned it right around and tapped the guy out. he took a MONSTER shot to the jaw from this hispanic lookin dude and got dizzied for a second and then got the guy in a rear naked choke. took a left from cro cop in the FACE and shrugged it off and continued to fight like nothing happened. the guy is a fucking BEAST. |
| ________________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 2:20pm - babyshakernotloggedin ""] 1. i fucking hate bob sapp someone should just break that guys whole jaw...oh wait 2.that bam bam fight is pathetic 3.pancrase and pride are way better than ufc sure good fighters in the ufc but someone i think that whole fighting to be on t.v every week spoils things 4.i miss ufc or MMA in general when people had dominate styles:judo,ju-jitsu it was better thatw ay if you ask me |
| ________________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 2:22pm - babyshakernotloggedin ""] also i been getting into street boxing this guy kimball is fucking nuts he just flys around the u.s to fight in bear knuckle boxing matches. so far the only person to beat him was a guy named gannon a boston cop look for kimball vs gannon on youtube its pretty funny |
| __________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 2:26pm - powerkok ""] it's Kimbo |
| __________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 2:27pm - powerkok ""] and the Boston cop that beat him, went to the UFC and got destroyed by Brandon Lee Hinkle. |
| ________________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 2:28pm - babyshakernotloggedin ""] ok so i dont mean to post a millon times but i just watched that bas rutten highlight video does this guy even punch? it looks liek hes using the heels of his hand thats pretty smart no hand damage and i bet ya it has more stopping power then a fist |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 3:00pm - Frank Shamrock ""] Because Pancrase, which you claimed to know was better than the UFC, originally did not allow closed fisted punches. |
| ________________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 4:02pm - babyshakernotloggedin ""] i think thats smarter when your taught to fight for your life your told not to punch to the face.....sorry shamrock i dont jerk off over the rule book of every MMA organisation. |
| ________________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 4:02pm - babyshakernotloggedin ""] by the way wicked gay anonymous name |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 4:19pm - spaldino@werk ""] why? frank shamrock is bad ass. i condone the usage of his anonymous name. Pancrase is bad ass. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 4:34pm - Frank Shamrock ""] Thanks Spaldino. BTW, I'm pretty sure if Bas was fighting for his life, he would punch with a closed fist to the face. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y Even I, Frank Shamrock, bow at the alter of Bas Rutten. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 17,2006 4:52pm - CNV ""] Congo sucks |
| ______________________________ [Oct 17,2006 4:54pm - CNV ""] powerkok said:cnv, ya, Bas did train Mark Kerr.....but only for a few months. rent 'The Smashing Machine' its a good doc about Kerrs fights and dope addiction. Anyone see Rich Franklin get muay thai kneed to death? new ufc middleweight and lightweight champs @UFC 64 Yeah man, I saw that great flick! |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 17,2006 5:43pm - lollercopter ""] lol @ that retard who said pride is just washed up ex-ufc. funny how anderson silva [who wasn't by any means a star in PRIDE] came over and smashed UFC's posterboy. b00-urns. |