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Your opinion on our new logo

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[Jan 17,2007 12:41pm - SteveOTB ""]
This is just a proof. The gray wont be on it, that's for "water mark" purposes. What do you think?

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[Jan 17,2007 12:43pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Better than the other one you posted a while back.
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[Jan 17,2007 12:44pm - jfag  ""]
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[Jan 17,2007 12:47pm - Sinistas ""]
Yeah, definitely better than the last one.
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[Jan 17,2007 12:50pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Haha, they both look eerily similiar.
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[Jan 17,2007 12:56pm - SteveOTB ""]
It was designed by Design By Your Arsonist. He's done logos for Suicide Silence, White Chapel, and As Blood Runs Black (I believe). All have a similar feel except the Suicide Silence one.

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[Jan 18,2007 5:13pm - immortal13 ""]
Yeah, I like it, but it's a little too similar to the Job for a Cowboy logo.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:14pm - brad nli  ""]
gay
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[Jan 18,2007 5:30pm - aeser ""]
looks pretty metalcore-faggy. like you'd describe your music as "post-metal" or something gay like that.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:31pm - dreadkill ""]
it reads the of betrayed to me.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:46pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
it's better than the last one aesthetically, but the style of logo does not have much integrity to it at this stage in the game. more and more bands keep popping up with this same style of logo that does not take much talent, time or effort to make. even though traditional death metal logos are pretty overused as well, at least there are ways to make a good death metal logo.

i used to not mind making logos of this style for bands when they asked for it, but i refuse to do it anymore out of respect for my own artistic integrity.

this logo may fit your music (i can't say i'm familiar with any of the betrayed songs) and you guys may like it, but it seems only fair to warn you that these logos are tied very closely to the running trend of "nu-death metal" if you will. i'd push the guy who you hired for a more unique logo. if you are paying an artist to make a logo that will represent your band, you need to make sure you get something that stands out or at least has a skillful approach to it, so as to not get lost in a sea of mediocrity.

i hate to bash the logo, but this shit bothers me as an artist. i hope you at least take my rant into consideration and push the artist to his limits and maybe even further so you get an awesome logo, and the artist gets better if he knows what's good for him, haha.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:50pm - dreadkill ""]
me and mark are the best logo designers on the face of the earth.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:51pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
our logo regime is growing to the stature of gods.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:51pm - babyshaker nli  ""]
hahah your the man mark
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[Jan 18,2007 5:52pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
i do what i can, but i'm not good at shaking babies. you are the man when it comes to babyshakin'.
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[Jan 18,2007 7:33pm - RichHorror ""]
dreadkill said:it reads the of betrayed to me.


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[Jan 18,2007 8:03pm - sinistas ""]
Yeah, if I went to an artist and he drew me up the same logo he'd drawn up for 5 other bands, I'd tell him to quit sticking his dick in my ear and come up with something original.

Then again, I do my logos using fonts. haha
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[Jan 18,2007 9:24pm - xanonymousx ""]
i kinda like the old logo better..
it kinda seems this guy has two fonts he uses with everyband...
i'm not an artist and could not do that but i say music is more important than a logo...
although in todays age it doesn't seem to be the case.
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[Jan 18,2007 11:41pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
xanonymousx said:i kinda like the old logo better..
it kinda seems this guy has two fonts he uses with everyband...
i'm not an artist and could not do that but i say music is more important than a logo...
although in todays age it doesn't seem to be the case.



it definitely sucks that people will judge a book by its cover, or in this case a band by their logo, but to me a band is more than just the music. i agree that overall the music is more important than the logo, but sometimes if a band is represented by horrendous or very cliche/generic art and design, the importance of the music is almost void. a lot of people tend to overlook the music itself if the band has a "stupid" or "gay" logo, band name, t shirt design, haircut, song title, album cover, etc. if a band has amazing music and a good sense of direction in the visuals department, on top of lyrics that don't look like anti-social stream-of-conscious from a 14 year old's notebook, and a great live show, they are the full package. there are so many bands in all sorts of genres, even bands trying to make new genres these days, so the bands who show that they put a lot of effort into making an impact on the music world will prevail and most likely stick around for more than a year or two.
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[Jan 19,2007 10:00am - SteveOTB ""]
MarkFuckingRichards said:it's better than the last one aesthetically, but the style of logo does not have much integrity to it at this stage in the game. more and more bands keep popping up with this same style of logo that does not take much talent, time or effort to make. even though traditional death metal logos are pretty overused as well, at least there are ways to make a good death metal logo.

i used to not mind making logos of this style for bands when they asked for it, but i refuse to do it anymore out of respect for my own artistic integrity.

this logo may fit your music (i can't say i'm familiar with any of the betrayed songs) and you guys may like it, but it seems only fair to warn you that these logos are tied very closely to the running trend of "nu-death metal" if you will. i'd push the guy who you hired for a more unique logo. if you are paying an artist to make a logo that will represent your band, you need to make sure you get something that stands out or at least has a skillful approach to it, so as to not get lost in a sea of mediocrity.

i hate to bash the logo, but this shit bothers me as an artist. i hope you at least take my rant into consideration and push the artist to his limits and maybe even further so you get an awesome logo, and the artist gets better if he knows what's good for him, haha.



Yeah when I first saw the logo I was hoping to shit myself but I didn't. The logo isn't doing much for me either and the kid clearly didn't put much thought into it. I told the kid "messy but not too messy with elegance and if possibly some sort of symbol as well" and he didn't follow through. So I said for him to add some vines, maybe some splatter, or something to spice it up so I'm waiting on that. But as far as how the logo came out so far, yeah it's cool but it's very generic looking and we want something more than that but it's hard when all these artist keep coming up with the same exact shit. I told the kid "listen to our music and get a feel for it, design our logo exactly to how you feel when listening to it" and clearly he didn't. So Mark if you want to be pushed as an artist design us a logo, something origional that resembles our sound and I'll pay you. At this point right now it seems like we're hiring all these designers to come up with something when they keep coming up with the same idea. I should really just design it myself but I'm not that good at designing logos.
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[Jan 19,2007 10:03am - the_reverend ""]
I think that's why "designers" doesn't mean much... unless you look at their degree and past work. otherwise, they are just posers. hell, i'm a "designer" too.
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[Jan 19,2007 10:06am - Messerschmitt ""]
poser
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[Jan 19,2007 10:07am - Messerschmitt ""]
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[Jan 19,2007 12:07pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
steve, i will definitely give a listen to the tunes. unfortunately i have dial up so loading songs on myspace usually doesn't work. i'll seek out a high speed connection that i can use this weekend.
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[Jan 19,2007 12:11pm - SteveOTB ""]
MarkFuckingRichards said:steve, i will definitely give a listen to the tunes. unfortunately i have dial up so loading songs on myspace usually doesn't work. i'll seek out a high speed connection that i can use this weekend.


Sounds good man, by the way let me know what your rates are lol. I want our logo to not look like any other logo out there so this may be a challenge for you because these days everything has been done. Just listen to our music, feel it out, design off that, and see what you can come up with. Also if you can come up with some sort of "Symbol" that'd be awesome too. For instance Arch Enemy has that circle thing, The Greatful Dead has bears, Chimaira has that chaos symbol thing, and what not. See what you can come up with because at the moment we're all basically out of ideas.
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[Jan 19,2007 12:12pm - the_reverend ""]
MFR is still gehy.
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[Jan 19,2007 12:15pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
as soon as i listen to the tunes i'll drop you a line steve.

rev, you're gayer than gay. when gay dudes see you in public they're all like, "pff...faggot."
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[Jan 19,2007 12:19pm - SteveOTB ""]
You 2 are so gay that the government is now considering just banning you instead of gay marriage.


Sounds good Mark
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[Jan 19,2007 12:25pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
they're changing the word "homosexuality" to "the reverend aaron pepelis." official.

on a side note, i'm checking out the design by your arsonist website, and the dude does some pretty good shit. his logos make him look very amatuer though. tis a shame.
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[Jan 19,2007 12:27pm - SteveOTB ""]
MarkFuckingRichards said:they're changing the word "homosexuality" to "the reverend aaron pepelis." official.

on a side note, i'm checking out the design by your arsonist website, and the dude does some pretty good shit. his logos make him look very amatuer though. tis a shame.



Yeah his t-shirt designs are pretty nuts but you're right the logos make him look like an amature. All these designers now seem like that to me. All can come up with amazing designs for merch, websites, and banners but yet they can't come up with a decent logo.
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[Jan 19,2007 12:38pm - the_reverend ""]
mfr hurts my feelings after I lambgoat complement him.
*sniff*

fine, I know MFR isn't gay. just cause he needs to finger his own cornhole to get a hardon. it's not like he NEEDs another dude to do it. he just perfers it. then again, since his booty call is a 1000 mile trip so I heard him and nicolai get together and make themselves in to an italian panini. they merge and become a loaf of italian bread with some dressing all over the place.
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[Jan 19,2007 12:39pm - SteveOTB ""]
hahaha wow
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[Jan 19,2007 12:41pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
well rev, first off it's spelled "ghey," and secondly, you think niccolai would have anything to do with making italian food? the kid barely even lets me over his house unless i show him my papers.
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[Jan 19,2007 12:58pm - SteveOTB ""]
OK this other company just designed this logo for us, what do you guys think of this.

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Mark I still want you to design the logo anyway because we want a whole pile of them to choose from.
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[Jan 19,2007 1:06pm - ZJD ""]
SteveOTB said:OK this other company just designed this logo for us, what do you guys think of this.

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Mark I still want you to design the logo anyway because we want a whole pile of them to choose from.



This one is great.
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[Jan 19,2007 1:09pm - SteveOTB ""]
ZJD said:SteveOTB said:OK this other company just designed this logo for us, what do you guys think of this.

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Mark I still want you to design the logo anyway because we want a whole pile of them to choose from.



This one is great.



I agree, not only does it have a taste of death metal but it's got a nice hardcore feel to it too which is what I was somewhat looking for. Something that utilizes all our styles.
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[Jan 19,2007 1:09pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
that is better, but looks a bit too much like a font with some extra outlines.
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[Jan 19,2007 1:42pm - the_reverend ""]
MFR and Nico share their a spicey a meat a balls wid each udder.
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[Jan 19,2007 1:45pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
The B should be capitalized.
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[Jan 19,2007 2:17pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
if the B is capitalized, the O and T should also be capitalized for continuity. tsk tsk mr. dwyer, tsk tsk.
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[Jan 19,2007 2:24pm - passerby  ""]
cool Logo
although I recommend you check out my thread if you have any doubts on the band name
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[Jan 19,2007 3:04pm - SteveOTB ""]
We had doubts about the band name then we just decided to run with it. If anything should be capitalized I think it'd be the "O" in "OF" and "D" in "Betrayed".
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[Jan 19,2007 3:23pm - tylerl ""]
jfag said:[img]


HAHAHAH
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[Jan 25,2007 10:33am - SteveOTB ""]
Mark hows the logos coming along?
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[Jan 25,2007 10:36am - sinistas ""]
Why is "OF" capitalized in that last one and nothing else? Lazy, lazy.
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[Jan 25,2007 10:38am - SteveOTB ""]
sinistas said:Why is "OF" capitalized in that last one and nothing else? Lazy, lazy.


I don't know and as a ocd artist it's kindof driving me nuts.
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[Feb 28,2007 12:44pm - SteveOTB ""]
New possible logo I just designed.

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