Good bye manny hello jason????[views:7381][posts:35]__________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:35pm - scumfuck ""] NESN is reporting that manny is now on the dodgers and we officially have jason bay from the pirates.....what the fuck |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:35pm - DomesticTerror ""] The Red Sox traded Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers late Thursday afternoon, SI.com has learned. Jason Bay is headed to Boston as part of the deal, SI.com has learned. The Pirates will get four minor leaguers in the three-way trade. from SI.com The Red Sox went back-and-forth with the Marlins and Dodgers as the 4 p.m. ET deadline approached. Ramirez said earlier today, as first reported by SI.com, that he would accept a trade to any team. The announcement will be made in conjunction with a World Baseball Classic announcement at Dodger Stadium shortly. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:37pm - dreadkill ""] nice |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:43pm - DomesticTerror ""] agreed. he's gonna clobber this park. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:44pm - brian_dc ""] worst trade ever lost Hansen and Moss today gained one dude I don't get it. They better sign the re-incarnation of Christ in the off-season. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:44pm - DomesticTerror ""] i just heard about moss and hansen. gonna miss moss, but fuck hansen. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:45pm - PiresNLI ""] i have a huge man crush on jason bay. hansen, can suck a dick! |
| ______________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:47pm - gay ""] we lose manny, hansen, and moss. and get jason fucking bay?!?? um..... WHAT THE FUCK |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:49pm - DomesticTerror ""] and the sox paid $7 mill? |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:50pm - brian_dc ""] also true this is pretty much like volunteering to develop cancer |
| _________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:55pm - W3 nli ""] ok trading manny and hansen for bay is a good deal but dealing away moss too is horrible. what happend to not trading away our future, i mean if were doing deals like this why didnt we get santana in the off season like we had the chance to. and if this is true and we did get bay whats his contract like for us are we hiring a gun or do we have this guy for a few years now. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:55pm - Kadooganglia ""] I can only hope the Sox are thinking about 10 steps ahead with this one. I dunno much about Bay I'm gonna go look him up right now... |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 4:59pm - Kadooganglia ""] from wiki: In his young major league career, Bay has demonstrated well above average power to all fields. He has also shown good discipline at the plate — in 2005, he ranked in the top ten in the National League in walks — although he does also strike out more often than the average hitter. On the bases, although he is not exceptionally fast, Bay is a very effective basestealer; in 2005, until he was picked off in the last week of the season, he had tied the major league record for most steals in a season without getting caught (21). Defensively, Bay has become adept at handling the large outfield in Pittsburgh's PNC Park and is a dependable fielder. Through 2008, he has made only seventeen errors in 5802.1 innings in left field (.986 fielding percentage). For a left fielder, he has a below average throwing ability according to The Hardball Times.[1][2] Bay's sister, Lauren, is a professional softball player who pitched for Canada's team in the 2004 Olympics. Bay remains friends with Edmonton Oilers center Shawn Horcoff, who grew up in Trail with him. Contents [hide] * 1 Baseball career * 2 Awards and honors * 3 Records o 3.1 Pittsburgh Pirates * 4 Career statistics * 5 See also * 6 References * 7 External links [edit] Baseball career Jason Bay in left field at PNC Park in Pittsburgh, PA. Jason Bay in left field at PNC Park in Pittsburgh, PA. Bay was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 22nd round of the 2000 Major League Baseball Draft from Gonzaga University. In 2001, Bay was assigned to the Expos’ High Class-A team in Jupiter. He began the year slowly, and in May he was moved to Clinton of the Midwest League. Bay reached base in his first 26 games, then went on to hit .362 and win the league batting title. In all, he batted .315 with 14 homers and 75 RBIs on the year. He was dealt to the New York Mets on March 24, 2002 for Lou Collier. The Mets dealt him to the San Diego Padres for Steve Reed at the 2002 trading deadline. He debuted with the Padres on May 23, 2003, getting his first major league hit, a home run, in the 9th inning. Two days later he suffered a broken right wrist after a hit by pitch. Once healed, he was traded to the Pirates, along with Óliver Pérez and Cory Stewart in August in exchange for Brian Giles. He finished the season with a .287 batting average, four home runs, and 14 runs batted in in 30 games. Bay began the 2004 season on the disabled list due to surgery during the offseason, and did not join the team until May. Despite missing the beginning of the season, he still produced the best offensive numbers of any National League rookie. He hit .282 in 120 games, leading all major league rookies in home runs (26) and RBI (82). He also led all NL rookies in slugging percentage (.550), extra base hits (54) and total bases (226). With his 26 home runs, Bay broke a Pirates rookies record of 23 set by Johnny Rizzo in 1936 and matched by Ralph Kiner in 1946. Selected the NL rookie of the year by The Sporting News, Bay was the third Pittsburgh player honored with the award, after second baseman Johnny Ray (1982) and catcher Jason Kendall. Bay was also the first Canadian player to win the award. In 2005, Bay was selected to his first Major League Baseball All-Star Game as a reserve outfielder. He was the only player on either roster not to appear in the game at all. Bay also appeared in the 2005 Century 21 Home Run Derby, representing Canada in the nationality-themed contest; he was eliminated in the first round after hitting no home runs. Bay finished the season with a .306 average, 32 home runs, and 101 RBI, leading the Pirates in every major hitting category. Through the 2006 season, Bay is a career .292 hitter with 97 home runs and 306 RBI in 471 games over three seasons. His current contract is a four-year deal (2006-2009) worth $18.25 million. Bay enjoyed an exceptional May of the 2006 season, when he hit .321 with 12 home runs (a Pirate record for home runs in a month) and 35 runs batted in. From May 22 to May 28 he hit home runs in six consecutive games, two short of the major league record held by Dale Long, Don Mattingly, and Ken Griffey, Jr. He had actually hit 10 home runs in ten games, but he had failed to hit a home run in one of the games (and hit two the next day). Following an aggressive Public Relations campaign by the Pirates in 2006, Jason Bay led all National League outfielders in All-Star voting. Pearl Jam lead singer Eddie Vedder even urged fans to vote for Bay during a summer concert at Pittsburgh's Mellon Arena.[3] Bay became the first member of the Pittsburgh Pirates voted into the All-Star game as a starter since Andy Van Slyke. In the game, Bay went 1 for 3, with a single. After battling injuries, Bay's 2007 was less productive, hitting .247 with 21 home runs and 84 RBIs.[4] Bay has had a much more productive 2008, hitting .287 with 19 home runs and 53 runs batted in through the All Star break. In a May series against the Chicago Cubs, Bay had extra-inning walk off hits in back-to-back games; the first two walk off hits of his career.[5] A month later, he got his third walk off hit of the season and his career with a 13th-inning solo home run against the Tampa Bay Rays.[6] On July 31, Bay was reportedly dealt to the Boston Red Sox as part of a three-way deal that sent Manny Ramirez to the Los Angeles Dodgers. The deal is contingent upon Manny Ramirez waiving his no-trade clause. [edit] Awards and honors * Three-time NL Rookie of the Month (June, July and September, 2004) * National League Rookie of the Year (2004) * The Sporting News NL Rookie of the Year (2004) * Tip O'Neill Award winner (2004 and 2005) - given to the top Canadian baseball player each season. * National League All-Star (2005, 2006) * Represented Canada at the World Baseball Classic * Represented Canada in the 1990 Little League World Series * May 2006 Player of the Month * Represented Canada at the 2005 Home Run Derby [edit] Records * Holds the record for most Home Runs at PNC Park with 60. * Second most Home Runs (14) by a visiting player (behind Lance Berkman- 18) and the highest batting average of any player with more than 100 at bats (.363, 58 for 160) at Great American Ball Park in Cincinnati.[7] * 4th all-time in Home Runs hit by a Canadian born player behind Larry Walker (383), Matt Stairs (249), and Jeff Heath (194). [edit] Pittsburgh Pirates * 4th all-time with .517 slugging percentage * 8th all-time with .893 on-base plus slugging (min 100 AB) * 8th all-time with 138 Home Runs * 10th all-time with 678 Strikeouts * 11th all-time with .376 on-base percentage * 16th all-time with 33 sacrifice flies * 18th all-time with 34 hit by pitches [edit] Career statistics Year Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB SF SH HBP IBB GDP 2003 SD 3 8 2 2 1 0 1 2 0 0 1 1 .250 .400 .750 1.150 6 0 0 1 0 0 2003 PIT 27 79 13 23 6 1 3 12 3 1 18 28 .291 .423 .506 .929 40 0 0 0 0 0 2004 PIT 120 411 61 116 24 4 26 82 4 6 41 129 .282 .358 .550 .908 226 5 5 10 2 9 2005 PIT 162 599 110 183 44 6 32 101 21 1 95 142 .306 .402 .559 .961 335 7 0 6 9 12 2006 PIT 159 570 101 163 29 3 35 109 11 2 102 156 .286 .396 .532 .928 303 9 0 8 9 15 2007 PIT 145 538 78 133 25 2 21 84 4 1 59 141 .247 .327 .418 .745 225 8 0 9 3 8 2008 PIT 99 393 72 111 23 2 22 64 7 0 59 86 .282 .375 .519 .894 204 5 0 2 2 3 Totals: 715 2,573 432 726 152 18 139 449 49 11 374 679 .282 .376 .517 .893 1,331 33 5 35 25 47 |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 5:04pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] fuck this noise. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 5:06pm - DomesticTerror ""] look at it this way, people who don't like this can root for the Dodgers/2003 Red Sox. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 5:09pm - scumfuck ""] i'm honestly dissapointed because manny was one of my favorite players dispite the drama but whatever he wanted to be traded and now he has been. i just hope jason bay works out for us. who knows maybe we can pick some one else up on waivers before the playoffs |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 5:17pm - brian_dc ""] Trading one of the best hitters in the game, Hansen, Moss, and $7 million for Jason Bay is not a good deal...even if it works out. It's not a good deal. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 5:19pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] well at least he didnt go to the Gays or the Spankees |
| _________________________________ [Jul 31,2008 5:29pm - W3 nli ""] totally ugh. |
| __________________________________________ [Aug 1,2008 2:48pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] From Boston.com... T’was the night before August and all through the Nation the fans on their feet in a standing ovation Ramirez -- the baby -- is off to L.A. So who is this guy they call Jason Bay? He bats from the right and throws that way too And produces the home runs; he has 22 Will he ever be Manny? “Not a chance” might be true But when he hits his first homah, we’ll all say “Manny who?” He’ll protect our Big Papi and with Mike at his back He’ll make up for what with Ramirez we lack: Good defense in left field, base-running skill too And he’ll run out the grounders unlike you-know-who If you look at the stats, Bay’s a star on the rise While Manny – his stature – is shrinking in size Just look at the stats. Can you guess who is who? AVG. HR RBI OBP SLG Player 1: .282 22 64 .375 .519 Player 2: .299 20 68 .398 .529 (I’ll give you a hint: Good-Bye Player 2!) With the A’s due in town, get the offense on track! But will Papi and Bay will be a formidable attack? At the end of the day brings an unnerving truth: Yes, Papi and Manny were like Gehrig/Ruth So here’s some advice from a local Sox fan Please try to get it right if you can: Say “Wall”; not “Green Monster” Pronounce “Pahk” with no “R” Produce like you’ve been doing and you’ll be a star. The “bleachers” are in right field Pesky’s Pole’s “down the line” Say “I hate the Yankees” and you’ll fit in just fine. By the way Red Sox Nation, raise your glass in a toast Pay homage to an old friend who’s on the West Coast He’s a friend of the Nation and a really good sport: Thank you, thank you, oh thank you dear old friend Frank McCourt So we hope for the best as the day turns to night I’ll just finish my poem and turn out the light But as I try to sleep, I turn and I toss Jason Bay for Ramirez, Hansen, and Moss? Did we make the right choice? Did we give up too much? Will Jason Bay ever hit in the clutch? I find I can’t sleep and I sit up in fright I know Manny was wrong; God I hope Theo’s right. But what about Manny? How hard will he play Now playing with Nomar and Lowe in L.A? I promise you this, there’s more to his story As you head off to bed, say a prayer for Joe Torre! Go Sox!!! |
| _____________________________ [Aug 1,2008 3:38pm - Yeti ""] wow. i can't believe how fast that came out. |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 1,2008 4:17pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] It's funny how many ex-Sox players play for Dodgers now; Derek Lowe, Manny, Nomar, etc. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 1,2008 4:43pm - guy ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:It's funny how many ex-Sox players play for Dodgers now; Derek Lowe, Manny, Nomar, etc. really is it funny or not funny at all |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 1,2008 4:55pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] FUNNY HURR HURR!!11!!!1!!11 |
| ____________________________________________________________________________________ [Aug 1,2008 5:32pm - sxealex is dee mann he is so bad he should be in detention ""] RACIST |
| _________________________________ [Aug 1,2008 6:40pm - Dankill ""] W3%20nli said:ok trading manny and hansen for bay is a good deal but dealing away moss too is horrible. what happend to not trading away our future, i mean if were doing deals like this why didnt we get santana in the off season like we had the chance to. and if this is true and we did get bay whats his contract like for us are we hiring a gun or do we have this guy for a few years now. Dood, Moss was good and all, but he'd have been lucky to be a fourth outfielder in Boston. He's better off getting a shot at full time duty with the Pirates. Hansen I don't give a fuck about. It sucks that we lost Manny's bat, but we also lost a cancer in the clubhouse that finally hit critical mass and pissed off almost all of his teammates and the brass. Jason Bay is still a solid player who at the moment has almost identical stats for the year as Manny. The team will bounce back how that the drama has passed and they can focus, as well as getting a new guy in who is known for being a good guy and a positive influence all around. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 1,2008 8:51pm - timma ""] Don't know if anyone said this already, as I'm too lazy to read through everything up there, but does anyone recall that Jason Bay was the only person in the home run derby a few years back that couldn't hit ONE SINGLE BALL out of the park!? 60 mph meatball and he's got warning track power. Fantastic. |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 1,2008 11:10pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] he was also on the team that historically lost 21-3 or some shit in high school. dude still plays solid ball. hopefully we see more of that after tonights game. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 1,2008 11:30pm - W3 nli ""] if he can put up the number he did a few years back and swat out 35 Homers behind Ortiz it'll be all smiles otherwise start the hot rail out of town chat now. line forms to the left. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 2,2008 12:11am - RustyPS ""] timma said:Don't know if anyone said this already, as I'm too lazy to read through everything up there, but does anyone recall that Jason Bay was the only person in the home run derby a few years back that couldn't hit ONE SINGLE BALL out of the park!? 60 mph meatball and he's got warning track power. Fantastic. You're going to use the home run derby as your barometer for this trade? Wow, I've seen stupidity before, but none this bad. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 2,2008 1:53am - DomesticTerror ""] Dankill said: W3%20nli said:ok trading manny and hansen for bay is a good deal but dealing away moss too is horrible. what happend to not trading away our future, i mean if were doing deals like this why didnt we get santana in the off season like we had the chance to. and if this is true and we did get bay whats his contract like for us are we hiring a gun or do we have this guy for a few years now. Dood, Moss was good and all, but he'd have been lucky to be a fourth outfielder in Boston. He's better off getting a shot at full time duty with the Pirates. Hansen I don't give a fuck about. It sucks that we lost Manny's bat, but we also lost a cancer in the clubhouse that finally hit critical mass and pissed off almost all of his teammates and the brass. Jason Bay is still a solid player who at the moment has almost identical stats for the year as Manny. The team will bounce back how that the drama has passed and they can focus, as well as getting a new guy in who is known for being a good guy and a positive influence all around. i'm doing my best to share your optimism. if we got a mid reliever, i'd love this deal. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 2,2008 1:55am - DomesticTerror ""] W3%20nli said:if he can put up the number he did a few years back and swat out 35 Homers behind Ortiz it'll be all smiles otherwise start the hot rail out of town chat now. line forms to the left. he'll have better numbers than manny this year. before this trade, i was of the firm belief that manny would hit no more than 29 hrs this year. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 2,2008 10:00pm - W3 nli ""] hmm i dont know till Manny started having issues with the club he was on a tear and then kinda just shut it down for the year. i'll be happy when this season is over and football starts. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 2,2008 10:57pm - Pires ""] looks like your home run derby theory went out the window already. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 3,2008 10:06am - SkinSandwich ""] Bay cranked a homer last night. Good times. he is a good cat. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 3,2008 1:31pm - DomesticTerror ""] W3%20nli said:hmm i dont know till Manny started having issues with the club he was on a tear and then kinda just shut it down for the year. i'll be happy when this season is over and football starts. exactly. if he stayed on the sox, 29hr 80rbi and a few hammy flareups. goes to LA he'll tear it up. a perfect damned if you do situation. gimme football. |