Why Do all these bands sound like Garbage?[views:12476][posts:58]_____________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 6:04am - IRAPEJESUS ""] I've been listening to much that people call, "metal" recently -especially a lot of local stuff which for better or worse is highlighted on this terrific forum. My question is, why does it all sound uninspired and mediocre? Is it just a lack of talent, or maybe artistic vision -maybe there is something in the water... For all the bands trying to brutal, if you haven't killed anybody STFU. Ostensible violence is necessary -unless all pretenders are to be relegated to the role of -scenesters- and I know you hate being called that. If anyone can help me out on why local music rarely gets anywhere and why it generally sounds redundant and lame, lemme know ITT...[URL=http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1998/nov/11-12-98/photos/garbage.gif [Pic unfortunately related...] |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 6:05am - IRAPEJESUS ""] http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1998/nov/11-12-98/photos/garbage.gif DOING IT WONG! |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 7:08am - douchebag_patrol ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 6:21pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] Why don't you show us some of the musical gems your labors have created? |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 6:24pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I always think the dude in the middle's junk hangs weird. It looks like it's mounted an inch or two too low. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 6:29pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] i don't understand... junk ist NOT krieg.. nor ist it necro.. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 30,2009 9:16pm - Lamp ""] Garbage is only one influence of a lot of these bands, they also enjoy Hole and the Foo Fighters. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 10:17pm - Conservationist ""] IRAPEJESUS said:My question is, why does it all sound uninspired and mediocre? Tautology alert in 3-2-1... |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 10:33pm - IRAPEJESUS ""] ...For instance, take a band like Genesis, or the singer Whitney Houston -they are unique and a delight to listen to. They make *music* which can be defined a million ways but one way = not garbage crap. Noisenoisenoise grrgrrgrr its all cookie monster and beauty and the chainsmoking tonedeaf beast. I used to think this town [greater providence area] had something in it that made it worth hearing but really its just a bunch of drugged up conformists either tripping on dust and trancing out to pre-fab techno or loser metal heads that play the same five chords over and over und over and over.... I don't really blame the musicians, its not their fault they are crap, its being brought up on the idiot box its idiot music and the illusion of rock and roll [created by sony to brainwash the masses into buying progressively worse shit]. tl;dr: Your bands fucking suck, quit music and consider an hero. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 10:46pm - RI-ian ""] i can agree alot with you but youre also off base by generalizing ... there is alot of creativity but most are mediocre boring music that is over hyped i.e. majority of NEDF |
| __________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 10:50pm - sxealex ""] im only happy when it rains |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 11:07pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] I mean, are you guys saying that because you don't get the whole growl/screach/blastbeat thing? Or do you like some stuff like that, just none from here? ..trying to understand where you're coming from. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 11:21pm - RI-ian ""] in general more than outside of new england too much of the same old shit. there are some talented bands out there that are not very creative.and vise versa. but comparing genesis and witney houston to local bands and underground music in general is asinine. boarcorpse i like your music it is unique in a mediocre genre |
| ______________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 11:28pm - A_Dark_In_The_Light ""] Yeah, Whitney Houston. Good point, what a delight to listen to. Fuckin' dumb slut. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 11:31pm - RI-ian ""] that voice gives me a head ache. " and IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII will alWAYYYYYYYYYYS love YYYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU' . kill me now. "im not saying shes on crack . shes just crackish!!" |
| ______________________________________________ [Jul 30,2009 11:48pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Wwaaaaahhhh I don't like death metal. Don't pay attention to it and listen to Genesis (the Peter Gabriel years I would hope). |
| ______________________________ [Jul 31,2009 12:03am - HTR ""] Mediocre to your standards or not, at least when a metal band puts out an album, it's something the band created. Pop artists just rubber-stamp their name($) and logo($) on other peoples music that have no other association with the "artist($)" other than collecting royalties for writing their songs. Mediocre to your standards or not, Metal has creative integrity. Other genres have little to none at all. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 12:15am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] I dunno, maybe you haven't been exposed to enough of it, but i've found plenty of local and otherwise bands that i really love. And i too like to think i have high standards in music. But that's what it comes down to doesn't it? Standards... which are opinions. It just seems wrong to me to say such a blanket statement when it's such a personal taste thing. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:22am - Conservationist ""] HTR said:Metal has creative integrity. Other genres have little to none at all. This I agree with. But since metal's decline has been going on for 15 years, we're accustomed to some pretty generic metal these days, with a few notable exceptions as others have said. The old school rises again. Death to the new school -- it was a funnel through and through. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:50am - A_Dark_In_The_Light ""] Man, you metal cats gotta get out more. Don't get me wrong, I love me some good old metal but man, there is a whole world of music out there just waiting for you. Saying that genres outside of metal have little to no creative integrity is at least a BIT of an exaggeration... |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 2:05am - douchebag_patrol ""] [img] [img] |
| _____________________________ [Jul 31,2009 2:05am - HTR ""] Ok, Hardcore, ska, and the old school Parliament-Funkadelic collective have creative integrity too. :] |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 4:44am - Conservationist ""] A_Dark_In_The_Light said:Saying that genres outside of metal have little to no creative integrity is at least a BIT of an exaggeration... I gotta disagree about this. Pop culture is generally shit, metal's the exception. The exceptions of the exception are metalcore, nu-metal and nu-black. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 6:06am - IRAPEJESUS ""] I guess I just hate everything. After Xaster everything like xaster is just trickle down xaster. After anal cunt nothing really happens anymore. The real problem is every shitbag that hasn't unloaded his container of shit into the great porta-john in the sky has a god damn guitar and a band [...or is looking] -shotgun willie: you can't make a record if you don't have shit to say. Between the aesthetics and the lyrics local/nation metal-music has really just hit the shitfan. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 6:08am - IRAPEJESUS ""] I'd be down to see live an heros on stage if some band had the balls and the entertainment factor. I got guns too. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 6:52am - sxealex ""] this isnt the metal archives... people listen to other bands than just metal here... It is just a common ground the board convenes around. don't know what you are talking about with the shitty bands thing... there are tons of awesome bands in NE |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 10:23am - demondave ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 11:44am - ouchdrummer ""] Irapejesus is officially deemed a whiny, judgmental, closed-minded idiot.. by me. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 12:17pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] There are definitely a lot of shit bands everywhere; there have always been shit bands, but there has been a steady influx since MySpace has made it infinitely easier for people to find new music, find band members, find shows, find labels, etc. There are also a lot of great bands, but it's very hard sifting through the shit to find those "diamonds in the rough." In summary, Shirly Manson's forehead is fucking gigantic. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 12:20pm - the_reverend ""] that is a huge fucking heeeed. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 31,2009 12:39pm - Yeti ""] a fivehead |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 12:58pm - aaron_michael ""] IRAPEJESUS said: Your bands fucking suck, quit music okay. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:14pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Shit's a mothafuckin' four squared head. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:45pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] theres plenty of awesome local bands right now... in fact i'm far more interested in the output of the local death metal scene right now than the crap coming from national acts |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:46pm - secthammer ""] haha wow this threat is a cavalcade of close-mindedness. LOADS of music still has creative integrity...if anything it's a lot of METAL that is getting stagnant and loosing the creative momentum that it once had. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:49pm - MikeOv ""] lol @ "Xaster" |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:55pm - arilliusbm ""] That's gotta be a fake troll. If you're gonna troll on Xasthur, at least learn to fucking spell the name right! |
| _________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:58pm - MikeOv ""] Fake troll reeks of McGunkery |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:59pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] JIIIIIIMMMM CUT THE SHIT |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:59pm - arilliusbm ""] Dude, it's not me! I always stay logged in here at work. also: Jul 31,2009 6:08am - IRAPEJESUS Do you think I'm up at 6AM Trolling! That's a McGunk thing to do. I'm too busy sleeping because of going to bed 2 hours before. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 1:59pm - brian_dc ""] Lamp said:Garbage is only one influence of a lot of these bands, they also enjoy Hole and the Foo Fighters. I'm glad someone did this |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 2:03pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] likely story |
| _________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 2:04pm - MikeOv ""] is likely |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 3:07pm - immortal13 ""] If it helps, as much as I love metal, two of my favorite bands include Led Zepplin and Alice in Chains. I don't put that kind of influence into the music I write but I still love it. IRAPEJESUS needs to stop whining and someone needs to drop Shirly Manson off at my house so I can do terrible, unforgivable things to her then leave her at some corner in Manchester with a roll of quarters. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 4:23pm - BlackoutRick ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:There are definitely a lot of shit bands everywhere; there have always been shit bands, but there has been a steady influx since MySpace has made it infinitely easier for people to find new music, find band members, find shows, find labels, etc. There are also a lot of great bands, but it's very hard sifting through the shit to find those "diamonds in the rough." In summary, Shirly Manson's forehead is fucking gigantic. That's just the picture. I love her. I would do bad things to her. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 4:24pm - brian_dc ""] Shirley Manson is 43 |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 5:00pm - BlackoutRick ""] AND........... |
| _____________________________ [Jul 31,2009 5:12pm - pam ""] brian_dc said:Shirley Manson is 43 I'd still hop teams for her. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 5:16pm - cav nli ""] genesis is better than any band whose members post on RTTP. i agree. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 5:17pm - cav nli ""] phil collins is also sexier than any man that posts here |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 5:45pm - douchebag_patrol ""] [img] |
| _____________________________ [Jul 31,2009 6:06pm - pam ""] AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH wtf??? |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 6:15pm - Conservationist ""] secthammer said:LOADS of music still has creative integrity...if anything it's a lot of METAL that is getting stagnant and loosing the creative momentum that it once had. Metal is clearly stagnant, but that doesn't mean other genres have creative integrity. Metal's more honest than the lot of it, unless you mean Romantic and baroque music. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 31,2009 11:02pm - McGunk.... ""] Let me buy you a beer Irapejesus. I hate these paint buy number cookie monster artificial hatred filled white trash death metal cores. They sing these songs about rap but dont rap. Tehy sing about killing yet dont kill. They maybe watched a few faces of death tapes and a few friday the 13th films and it inspired them to be themselves. They really discovered themselves and now they sing these uninspired gorerotted goreality cold northern faggotry music. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 1,2009 6:44am - IRAPEJESUS ""] Whiney faggoth here: First off, old meme is old and it was stupid over 9000 years ago- Recent posts suggest that it is not only the music in Rhode Island that is rehashed wannabe tribal-kkkore shit -thinking in general has seemed to call it a day. I don't doubt the 'talent' of any of the hacks in this hyper-aggressive middle class white boy bands -I doubt the psychological authenticity; if you are going to grr I also want you to be an asshole to everyone you know, take shits on the sidewalk and just be the biggest grrcookiescreamo in teh whurld. Meeting guys in death metal bands leaves the impression of meeting a closet case br00talite with a penchant for little boys. The creativity in metal around here is basically figuring out different ways to make the song get fast or to slow down or "should we repeat the chorus at the end or just have it, like, end?" tl;dr: RI FEEDS THE NATIONAL SUCK EPIDEMIC[img] LISTEN TO PIK |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 1,2009 6:49am - IRAPEJESUS ""] PS- OP SEEKS METAL BAND FOR METAL: INFLUENCES INCLUDE: ALCOLOL, DISHWASHING,UNEMPLOYMENT, AND B.O - MUST HAVE FRIENDS GEAR AND MOMS TRANSPORTATION ONLY SRS INQUIRES PLZ KTHNXBAI WE HAVE GIGS |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 1,2009 10:47am - McGunk.... ""] Let me buy you a beer for the cold northern faggotry white trash drunken gay bukakke fest nigger grind... |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 1,2009 7:41pm - Surprise sex ""] Big ups to the guy who posted profanatica. Br00talz has a nuname and nobody knows who they fucking are or where they went- |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 1,2009 7:42pm - Surprise sex ""] TO MGUNK: I CAN HAS B33RZ?! Doc says no, but I accept. |