Post your favorite quotes by philosophers, authors, transcendentalists, etc[views:19252][posts:69]____________________________________ [May 24,2011 7:34am - arilliusbm ""] I've been reading a lot of Nietzsche lately, as well as other brilliant minds. If any one else cares about this stuff, post some of your favorite quotations that stuck with you. Here's one: "When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe." ~John Muir, My First Summer in the Sierra, 1911 |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 7:43am - Alx_Casket ""] "Being a dick ain't so bad. See, there are three kinds of people: Dicks, pussies and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along and dicks just wanna fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, and all the assholes want is to shit all over everything. So pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit." -Team America |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:10am - Doomkid ""] Aril, thank you for this thread. If you like that Muir quote, you should try reading Dewey's Experience and Nature or some of the other American Pragmatists. They also do a good job of attempting to figure out how humans should discover morality in a "God is dead" world. Anyway, here are some favorites from recent reading: "Of all affairs, communication is the most wonderful. That things should be able to pass from the plane of the external pushing and pulling to that of revealing themselves to man, and thereby to themselves; and that the fruit of communication should be participation, sharing, is a wonder..." ~John Dewey "It is impossible to know who you are without knowing where you are." ~Ursula Heise "We can think of place as articulated moments in networks of social interactions." ~Doreen Massey |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:12am - Alx_Casket ""] Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present. -Kung Fu Panda |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:15am - arilliusbm ""] Fail. I thought you were going to post transcendentalist black metal lyrics. |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:17am - Alx_Casket ""] Well I can't understand what they're singing about, it's all screaming. |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:18am - arilliusbm ""] Thanks Doomkid. Ive heard of that, but never read it. Will look into it. |
| __________________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:28am - largefreakatzero ""] "To alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems" - Homer S. |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:28am - blacktooth ""] "Give up defining yourself - to yourself or to others. You won't die. You will come to life. And don't be concerned with how others define you. When they define you, they are limiting themselves, so it's their problem. Whenever you interact with people, don't be there primarily as a function or a role, but as the field of conscious Presence. You can only lose something that you have, but you cannot lose something that you are." — Eckhart Tolle |
| _________________________________________ [May 24,2011 8:34am - ancient master ""] Spirit slumbers in nature, awakens in mind, and finally recognizes itself as Spirit in the transpersonal domains. There is intersubjectivity woven into the very fabric of the Kosmos at all levels. ken wilber - a brief history of verything |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 9:12am - eyeroller ""] "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H.L. Mencken, 1880-1956 |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2011 9:14am - DawnOfTheDead ""] "Well, I don't really think that the end can be assessed as of itself as being the end because what does the end feel like? It's like saying when you try to extrapolate the end of the universe, you say, if the universe is indeed infinite, then how - what does that mean? How far is all the way, and then if it stops, what's stopping it, and what's behind what's stopping it? So, what's the end, you know, is my question to you." David St. Hubbins |
| _____________________________ [May 24,2011 9:52am - pam ""] Bukowski be thy name. "You begin saving the world by saving one man at a time; all else is grandiose romanticism or politics." "Love is all right for those who can handle the psychic overload. It's like trying to carry a full garbage can on your back over a rushing river of piss." "The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting" I love quotes. Good thread. Sorry for interrupting your philosophers with a drunken poet. |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2011 10:17am - burnsy ""] It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and uh, uh... |
| ________________________________ [May 24,2011 10:35am - Mutis ""] "Nietzsche is quoted by metalheads too much" -Me |
| _______________________________ [May 24,2011 10:36am - Yeti ""] blacktooth said:"Give up defining yourself - to yourself or to others. You won't die. You will come to life. And don't be concerned with how others define you. When they define you, they are limiting themselves, so it's their problem. Whenever you interact with people, don't be there primarily as a function or a role, but as the field of conscious Presence. You can only lose something that you have, but you cannot lose something that you are." — Eckhart Tolle holy ass. i love this. |
| _______________________________ [May 24,2011 10:38am - Yeti ""] "Had I not known that I was dead already I would have mourned the loss of my life." - Ota Dokan |
| _______________________________ [May 24,2011 10:42am - Slag ""] "A human being is part of the whole, called by us ‘Universe’; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison.” - Albert Einstein |
| ________________________________ [May 24,2011 10:44am - Mutis ""] "The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." -Elim Garak |
| _______________________________ [May 24,2011 10:45am - Yeti ""] "Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things." - Winston Churchill |
| _______________________________ [May 24,2011 10:46am - Slag ""] blacktooth said:"Give up defining yourself - to yourself or to others. You won't die. You will come to life. And don't be concerned with how others define you. When they define you, they are limiting themselves, so it's their problem. Whenever you interact with people, don't be there primarily as a function or a role, but as the field of conscious Presence. You can only lose something that you have, but you cannot lose something that you are." — Eckhart Tolle This is not to be misinterpreted. This quote mainly has to do with present moment awareness and the tendency of the mind to judge everything and anything automatically. He talks about "being" as a formless, shapeless all eternal state that is free from judgement, ego and time. His books may come off as a bit... odd, but I really enjoyed them. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 24,2011 10:46am - FuckIsMySignature ""] "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing…" |
| ______________________________ [May 24,2011 10:59am - pam ""] Yeti said:"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things." - Winston Churchill I love Churchill quotes. "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." — Winston S. Churchill |
| _______________________________ [May 24,2011 11:00am - Slag ""] “Ultimately, man should not ask what the meaning of his life is, but rather must recognize that it is he who is asked. In a word, each man is questioned by life; and he can only answer to life by answering for his own life; to life he can only respond by being responsible.” -Viktor Frankl |
| ____________________________________ [May 24,2011 11:02am - AMOROK666 ""] "blah blah I wrote a manifesto blah transcendental black metal blah" - some hipster fag |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:02pm - Boozegood ""] "Under the sword lifted high, There is hell making you tremble. But go ahead, And you have the land of bliss." - Musashi "Vive la mort, vive la guerre, vive le sacre mercenaire." (Long live death, long live war, long live the sacred/cursed mercenary) - A Mercenary toast. |
| __________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:08pm - Sinistas ""] "I'm gonna kick you in the butt and wash your mouth out with soap" -Macho Man |
| ______________________________ [May 24,2011 1:10pm - Yeti ""] pam said: Yeti said:"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things." - Winston Churchill I love Churchill quotes. "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." — Winston S. Churchill when i was in 5th grade i had a biography book report to do, and i was given Winston Churchill. i didn't read the book, and bullshitted my way through the report making him out to seem like an unimportant person who didn't achieve anything. i failed obviously, and as i grew up i vowed to give Churchill the proper respect due to my horrific insolence. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:11pm - neverpurified nli ""] "When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." -Jack Burton- |
| __________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:14pm - BrianDBB ""] Big surprise, both are from wrestlers: Do you know what my New Year's resolution is going to be? To wake up a half an hour earlier so I can hate you more. -William Regal You don't have to like me, and I don't give a shit if you do. -Shane Douglas |
| _____________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:16pm - The_Rooster ""] "When you laugh, you leak piss." - Doc Cochran |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:18pm - Boozegood ""] "I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all." -Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders |
| ____________________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:24pm - neverpurified nli ""] Boozegood said:"I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all." -Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders I also like these from him "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling." “Whenever you show anger or disgust toward civilians, it's a victory for Al Qaeda and other insurgents.” Reflecting an understanding of the need for restraint in war as key to defeating an insurgency, he added that, "Every time you wave at an Iraqi civilian, Al Qaeda rolls over in its grave." |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:27pm - Boozegood ""] neverpurified%20nli said: Boozegood said:"I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all." -Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders I also like these from him "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling." “Whenever you show anger or disgust toward civilians, it's a victory for Al Qaeda and other insurgents.” Reflecting an understanding of the need for restraint in war as key to defeating an insurgency, he added that, "Every time you wave at an Iraqi civilian, Al Qaeda rolls over in its grave." Awesome. I actually haven't read much about him, I will now though. "Do not attack the First Marine Division. Leave the yellowlegs alone. Strike the American Army." Orders given to Communist troops in the Korean War; shortly afterward, the Marines were ordered to not wear their khaki leggings. |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2011 1:35pm - Boozegood ""] Holy shit, epic win of a quote: "God take away your alms. For as you live by charity, so do I by war, and to me it is as genuine a vocation as yours." - Sir John Hawkwood, a 14th Century English mercenary general, upon being greeted by two friars with the words, 'God give you peace.' |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2011 2:33pm - Spaldino ""] "If we all reacted the same way we'd be predictable... and there's always more than one way to view a situation. What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: Over-specialize and you breed in weakness. It's slow death." - Major Kusanagi... from the english dub of the first Ghost In The Shell movie, hahaha. it has always stuck with me. |
| _____________________________________ [May 24,2011 4:30pm - Avalonwinds ""] "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." -Marcus Aurelius "Meditations" |
| ______________________________________ [May 24,2011 5:34pm - thirdknuckle ""] I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand My image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain And still you play the sycophant and revel in you pain And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate I am the politician, and I decide your fate I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down. |
| ________________________________________ [May 24,2011 6:09pm - ghey_faguettes ""] "The grey thing appears in the mirror. I go over and look at it; I can no longer get away. It is the reflection of my face. Often in these lost days I study it. I can understand nothing of this face. The faces of others have some sense, some direction. Not mine. I cannot even decide whether it is handsome or ugly. I think it is ugly because I have been told so. But it doesn't strike me. At heart, I am even shocked that anyone can attribute qualities of this kind to it, as if you called a clod of earth or a block of stone beautiful or ugly" -Sartre "On occasion I danced for nights on end, ever madder about people and life. At times, late on those nights when the dancing, the slight intoxication, my wild enthusiasm, everyone's violent unrestraint would fill me with a tired and overwhelmed rapture, it would seem to me-- at the breaking point of fatigue and for a seconds flash-- that at least I understood the secret of creatures and of the world. But my fatigue would disappear the next day, and with it the secret; I would rush forth anew. I ran on like that, always heaped with favors, never satiated, without knowing where to stop, until the day--until the evening rather when the music stopped and the lights went out. The gay party at which I had been so happy... But allow me to call on my friend the primate. Nod your head to thank him and, above all, drink up with me. I need your understanding." -Camus |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2011 6:31pm - NuclearWinter ""] "I transcend race, hombre" - K. Powers |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2011 6:37pm - Boozegood ""] This thread needs more Sarcofago lyrics. |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2011 6:39pm - NuclearWinter ""] See the Nocturnal thread, Dengar. |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2011 7:23pm - Will Spanner ""] "That's the problem with drinking, I thought, as I poured myself a drink. If something bad happens you drink in an attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen." - Charles Bukowski |
| ________________________________________ [May 24,2011 7:28pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] A couple from Two-Fisted Bob that have always rung true for me: "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." — Robert E. Howard "Barbarism is the natural state of mankind. Civilization is unnatural. It is the whim of circumstance. And barbarism must ultimately triumph." — Robert E. Howard |
| ________________________________________ [May 24,2011 7:35pm - my_dying_bride ""] "I find you very attractive. Your aggressive moves toward me indicate that you feel the same way. But still, ritual requires that we go through a number of platonic activities before we have sex. I'm simply proceeding with those activities. But in point of actual fact, all I really want to do is have intercourse with you as soon as possible. You're gonna slap me now." -John Nash |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2011 11:42pm - BlackoutRick ""] Brilliant!! |
| ____________________________________ [May 25,2011 8:03am - Alx_Casket ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [May 25,2011 8:06am - arilliusbm ""] Nice. Smart man, he was. |
| __________________________________________ [May 25,2011 10:20am - ridahsofdizoom ""] John Muir is my boy but here is an Anarchist, Emma Goldman "Whether I do or do not entirely agree with these iconoclasts, I believe, with them, that Christianity is most admirably adapted to the training of slaves, to the perpetuation of a slave society; in short, to the very conditions confronting us to-day. Indeed, never could society have degenerated to its present appalling stage, if not for the assistance of Christianity. The rulers of the earth have realized long ago what potent poison inheres in the Christian religion. That is the reason they foster it; that is why they leave nothing undone to instill it into the blood of the people. They know only too well that the subtleness of the Christian teachings is a more powerful protection against rebellion and discontent than the club or the gun." rest of the essay "On the failure of christianity" can be found in the link http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/goldman413.htm |
| __________________________________________ [May 25,2011 10:29am - ridahsofdizoom ""] “Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of the government.” French Anarchist Proudhon |
| _______________________________________ [May 25,2011 10:31am - BlackoutRick ""] Ummm, I believe Kubrick read some Schopenhauer. |
| _____________________________________ [May 25,2011 11:30am - Alx_Casket ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [May 25,2011 11:33am - xmikex ""] A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -Stephen Crane |
| _________________________________ [May 25,2011 11:35am - xmikex ""] A silver bird flies over the autumn lake When it has passed, the lakes surface does not try to hold on to the image of the bird - Master Huong Hai |
| ______________________________________ [May 25,2011 12:04pm - vengeance94 ""] She runs through the evil mausoleum wanted to find her dead mother alive only found evil constructions and evil spirits those evil spirits possessed her. Passed time strangers come possessed demons inside her will stay nobody will never enter to the sanctuary because evil souls are waiting She didn't know of her evil possession but the evil time past come demons making her to kill slaying people in her house alone and silent place Living in one lonely place and far from town her facility to kill was easy involving everyone with her innocence slaughtering and kill without mercy Her transformation in that evil monster was her total possession of evil the end of mausoleum was here finishing her possession was close A spiritist man found her diseases he tries to take out that evil spirit with strange exorcism took out the spirit the declined end of mausoleum of evil is here. -Toxodeth "Mausoleum" |
| ________________________________________ [May 25,2011 1:48pm - ghey_faguettes ""] Remember, my love, the object we saw That beautiful morning in June: By a bend in the path a carcass reclined On a bed sown with pebbles and stones; Her legs were spread out like a lecherous whore, Sweating out poisonous fumes, Who opened in slick invitational style Her stinking and festering womb. The sun on this rottenness focused its rays To cook the cadaver till done, And render to Nature a hundredfold gift Of all she'd united in one. And the sky cast an eye on this marvellous meat As over the flowers in bloom. The stench was so wretched that there on the grass You nearly collapsed in a swoon. The flies buzzed and droned on these bowels of filth Where an army of maggots arose, Which flowed with a liquid and thickening stream On the animate rags of her clothes. And it rose and it fell, and pulsed like a wave, Rushing and bubbling with health. One could say that this carcass, blown with vague breath, Lived in increasing itself. And this whole teeming world made a musical sound Like babbling brooks and the breeze, Or the grain that a man with a winnowing-fan Turns with a rhythmical ease. The shapes wore away as if only a dream Like a sketch that is left on the page Which the artist forgot and can only complete On the canvas, with memory's aid. From back in the rocks, a pitiful bitch Eyed us with angry distaste, Awaiting the moment to snatch from the bones The morsel she'd dropped in her haste. - And you, in your turn, will be rotten as this: Horrible, filthy, undone, O sun of my nature and star of my eyes, My passion, my angel in one! Yes, such will you be, o regent of grace, After the rites have been read, Under the weeds, under blossoming grass As you moulder with bones of the dead. Ah then, o my beauty, explain to the worms Who cherish your body so tine, That I am the keeper for corpses of love Of the form, and the essence divine! - A Carcass, Charles Baudelaire |
| ____________________________________________________ [May 25,2011 3:28pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] "I am who I am who I am. Well, who am I? Requesting some enlightenment. Could I have been anyone other than me? And then I'll sing and dance, I'll play for you tonight. The thrill of it all. Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes but I'll work it out." |
| ___________________________________ [May 25,2011 4:14pm - dreadkill ""] Sinistas said:"I'm gonna kick you in the butt and wash your mouth out with soap" -Macho Manbrilliant |
| ___________________________________ [May 25,2011 8:43pm - Paul CNV ""] " I do not consider myself less ignorant than most people. I have been and still am a seeker, but I have ceased to question stars and books; I have begun to listen to the teachings my blood whispers to me. My story is not a pleasant one; it is neither sweet nor harmonious, as invented stories are; it has the taste of nonsense and chaos, of madness and dreams- like the lives of all men who stop decieving themselves." Hermann Hesse |
| ________________________________________ [May 26,2011 2:01am - DestroyYouAlot ""] "A man may fight for many things: his country, his principles, his friends, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn!" - E. Blackadder Esquire |
| _______________________________________ [May 26,2011 2:10am - Scatluver420 ""] The wolf that one hears is worse than the orc that one fears. Motherfucking Gandalf |
| ______________________________ [May 26,2011 7:43am - Yeti ""] xmikex said:A silver bird flies over the autumn lake When it has passed, the lakes surface does not try to hold on to the image of the bird - Master Huong Hai this one is awesome. |
| ____________________________________ [May 26,2011 7:56am - arilliusbm ""] "feee feew" -jimbird |
| _________________________________________ [May 26,2011 9:47am - ancient master ""] he who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know - Lao Tzu |
| __________________________________________ [May 26,2011 10:59am - arkquimanthorn ""] neverpurified%20nli said: Boozegood said:"I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all." -Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders I also like these from him "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling." “Whenever you show anger or disgust toward civilians, it's a victory for Al Qaeda and other insurgents.” Reflecting an understanding of the need for restraint in war as key to defeating an insurgency, he added that, "Every time you wave at an Iraqi civilian, Al Qaeda rolls over in its grave." These are great. |
| __________________________________________ [May 26,2011 11:09am - arkquimanthorn ""] "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." — H.P. Lovecraft "Through all this horror my cat stalked unperturbed. Once I saw him monstrously perched atop a mountain of bones, and wondered at the secrets that might lie behind his yellow eyes." — H.P. Lovecraft |
| __________________________________________ [May 26,2011 11:17am - arkquimanthorn ""] The_Rooster said:"When you laugh, you leak piss." - Doc Cochran pure wisdom from the doc. love it. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 2,2011 9:35am - arilliusbm ""] assholebump |
| ________________________________ [Nov 2,2011 10:00am - Mark_R ""] arkquimanthorn said: flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." — H.P. Lovecraft he called it. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 2,2011 10:51am - Colonel Mustard ""] “I've always considered writing the most hateful kind of work. I suspect it's a bit like fucking, which is only fun for amateurs. Old whores don't do much giggling.” Hunter S. Thompson |