Opeth. Heritage (leak)
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[Jul 20,2011 3:12am - anonymous ""]
Please post here kthnx
[Jul 20,2011 9:06am - arilliusbm ""]
Actually quite interested in hearing this album.
[Jul 20,2011 12:09pm - vaettir ""]
A bit dissapointed by "Watershed", hopefully a return to form with the new one
[Jul 21,2011 12:53am - MikeOv ""]
arilliusbm said:Actually quite interested in hearing this album.
:point:
[Jul 21,2011 12:54am - MikeOv ""]
Only citing a ton of 70's prog and then name dropping My Dying Bride as the lone metal influence for your new record, is real.
[Jul 21,2011 7:44am - Yeti ""]
i really want to believe this will be good, but i'm anticipating unimpressive boredom.
[Jul 21,2011 10:35am - dyingmuse ""]
Watershed was brilliant. Best thing they have done in a long time.
I am curious how the new record sounds for sure, any release dates?
[Jul 21,2011 10:42am - Yeti ""]
Watershed is good, but it's not the same Opeth. it was too clean cut, not dreamy enough.
[Jul 21,2011 1:55pm - thirdknuckle ""]
dyingmuse said:Watershed was brilliant.
it may not be the most 'Opeth' of Opeth albums, but Watershed is a great album. Every time I listen to it I hear something new.
[Jul 21,2011 3:04pm - sinistas ""]
I vastly prefer Ghost Reveries to Watershed.
Apparently this album is going to be a 70's progfest.
[Jul 21,2011 3:10pm - arilliusbm ""]
I stopped caring after Peter left.
[Jul 21,2011 3:11pm - KEVORD ""]
sinistas said:I vastly prefer Ghost. True dat!
[Jul 21,2011 3:13pm - thirdknuckle ""]
sinistas said:I vastly prefer Ghost Reveries to Watershed.
I do too... Just saying Watershed is great even though it's farthest away (so far) from what Opeth established itself to be
[Jul 21,2011 3:14pm - Yeti ""]
Watershed is a more coherent album than Ghost Reveries, but i agree that Ghost Reveries is better all around.
[Jul 21,2011 3:19pm - arilliusbm ""]
Only pre Blackwater Park is real.
[Jul 21,2011 3:24pm - dreadkill ""]
arilliusbm said:Only pre Blackwater Park is real.
deliverance is the worst opeth album
[Jul 21,2011 3:27pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
no, id say blackwater park is one of the better Opeth albums along with Still Life.
[Jul 21,2011 4:20pm - Alx_Casket ""]
that's like, your opinion, man
[Jul 21,2011 4:29pm - obstaclecorpse ""]
sinistas said:
Apparently this album is going to be a 70's progfest.
i have no problems with this
[Jul 21,2011 4:38pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I used to own an Opeth themed coffee shop in Macao called Blackwater Perk
[Jul 21,2011 4:50pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
In the Sierra Mist she was Standing.
[Jul 21,2011 5:14pm - Yeti ""]
My Ohms, Your Hertz
[Jul 21,2011 6:00pm - mikefrommaine ""]
yeah, apparently there are absolutely no "growls" in this album. Definitely has me a bit worried...
[Jul 21,2011 6:02pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
Damnation sequel or GTFO.
[Jul 21,2011 6:08pm - arilliusbm ""]
mikefrommaine said:yeah, apparently there are absolutely no "growls" in this album. Definitely has me a bit worried...
See, I'm quite the opposite. That's why I'm interested in this album. I think Opeth should have stopped doing death growls albums ago.
It's not their calling.
[Jul 21,2011 6:09pm - arilliusbm ""]
(don't get me wrong, he's a great vocalist either way you slice it)
[Jul 21,2011 6:15pm - dreadkill ""]
I like clean vocals more than growls, but the dynamic between the two is a huge part of opeth's sound, so I'm not happy that they've ditched the gruffs
[Jul 21,2011 6:16pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
Yeti said:My Ohms, Your Hertz
nice.
[Jul 21,2011 6:22pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
only Ghost Reveries is official.
[Jul 21,2011 7:16pm - sinistas ""]
GR tails off towards the end, but the only song I love on Watershed is Heir Apparent.
[Jul 21,2011 7:39pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
sinistas said:GR tails off towards the end, but the only song I love on Watershed is Heir Apparent.:point:
[Jul 21,2011 8:08pm - sinistas ""]
And of course, Still Life > Everything else
[Jul 21,2011 8:49pm - aaron pepenis ""]
my heritage with opeth is that it makes my anus leak, yo
[Jul 22,2011 12:59am - MikeOv ""]
arilliusbm said:
See, I'm quite the opposite. That's why I'm interested in this album. I think Opeth should have stopped doing death growls albums ago.
It's not their calling.
I have to disagree due to the fact that he has some of the sickest death metal vocals ever. I think Ghost Reveries was a decent album but I hated the way the recording sounded. The drums sound less organic, the guitar tone is weaker, and his clean vocals are a bit too over-produced. As for Watershed, I think it's a pretty boring effort. The riffs are uninteresting, they lost some of their key aesthetics, and yet, at the same time, Heir Apparent was one of the best songs they've ever written. If the entire album sounded like that, it would have been a great release.
With all of that being said, I'm intrigued to hear Heritage.
[Jul 22,2011 6:27am - thirdknuckle ""]
mikefrommaine said:yeah, apparently there are absolutely no "growls" in this album. Definitely has me a bit worried...
is that true? or rumor?
[Jul 22,2011 9:30am - arilliusbm ""]
He said it in an interview.
and MikeovDecrepitvde, I agree that he's an outstanding vocalist for both styles. I remember saying years ago that they should drop the death vocals and move on. I don't know, I thought Opeth already did everything they possibly could with combining styles. Yea, it was their dynamic, but it was obvious they couldn't make their mind up musically after doing it for albums.
I am glad Opeth will drop them. He can do death vocals for anything else, but this notion has sparked my interest in this band again.
[Jul 22,2011 9:33am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
arilliusbm said:He said it in an interview.
and MikeovDecrepitvde, I agree that he's an outstanding vocalist for both styles. I remember saying years ago that they should drop the death vocals and move on. I don't know, I thought Opeth already did everything they possibly could with combining styles. Yea, it was their dynamic, but it was obvious they couldn't make their mind up musically after doing it for albums.
I am glad Opeth will drop them. He can do death vocals for anything else, but this notion has sparked my interest in this band again.
i agree with this for the most part but think he should still use the growls in certain parts as embellishments. i'll just have to hear what it sounds like and make a judgement at that point.
[Jul 22,2011 9:57am - arkquimanthorn ""]
i want to hear this, if they really are abandoning some metal aspects, i'm curious. i appreciate their material, but it's always tasted bland to me. i've never gone back for repeated listens.
[Jul 22,2011 10:34am - Yeti ""]
i'm listening to Watershed right now, it just doesn't do much for me. it's got some great riffs, "Hessian Peel" has a killer one towards the end, but it lacks so much. mainly in the drumming. Axenrot is a death metal drummer, Martin Lopez brought the pizazz. and that girl's voice during "Coil" is horrendous. i'm still going to buy this new one and listen to it many times, i just don't expect to be blown away. hopefully i'm wrong.
[Jul 22,2011 10:34am - Yeti ""]
paging Conservationist.
[Jul 22,2011 1:24pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Opeth's problem is that they have no sense of transition. They go from heavy to light back to heavy with no segue or real progression. It's just boom here you go, boom there we are. I also believe they maintain the heaviness aspect just to keep up appearances with the metal crowd.
[Jul 22,2011 4:17pm - arilliusbm ""]
Holy shit, best Opeth cover I've ever heard.
bennyhillifier
[Jul 22,2011 6:01pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
Yeti said:i'm listening to Watershed right now, it just doesn't do much for me. it's got some great riffs, "Hessian Peel" has a killer one towards the end, but it lacks so much. mainly in the drumming. Axenrot is a death metal drummer, Martin Lopez brought the pizazz. and that girl's voice during "Coil" is horrendous. i'm still going to buy this new one and listen to it many times, i just don't expect to be blown away. hopefully i'm wrong.
agreed, Hessian Peel has its moments and Coil is pretty terrible. Heir Apparent, Porcelain heart and maybe Hessian Peel are the only notable ones.
[Jul 22,2011 6:23pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
MillenialKingdom said:Opeth's problem is that they have no sense of transition. They go from heavy to light back to heavy with no segue or real progression. It's just boom here you go, boom there we are. I also believe they maintain the heaviness aspect just to keep up appearances with the metal crowd.
i dont agree with that. i love their transitions. especially on Deliverence.
[Jul 25,2011 12:29am - anonymous ""]
up
[Jul 26,2011 12:32am - anonymous ""]
up
[Jul 26,2011 1:05am - WarriorOfMetal ""]
arilliusbm said:Holy shit, best Opeth cover I've ever heard.
bennyhillifier
So bad it's almost unrecognizable.
Also, Morningrise > all
[Jul 26,2011 7:49am - SLAAAAG ""]
I'm a false. Never listened to Opeth, probably never will. Shoot me.
[Jul 26,2011 7:57am - arilliusbm ""]
You'd really like Opeth's electronica album.
[Jul 26,2011 9:34am - sinistas ""]
The Devil's Orchard leak:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9tjxwx4ggxxiiek
[Jul 26,2011 10:44am - dreadkill ""]
weird
[Jul 26,2011 3:13pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
SLAAAAG said:I'm a false. Never listened to Opeth, probably never will. Shoot me.
who cares?
[Jul 26,2011 3:33pm - SLAAAAG ""]
YOU CARE
[Jul 26,2011 3:37pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
eh.
[Jul 26,2011 4:08pm - burnsy ""]
Doesn't strike me as far removed from other Opeth material in any sense. It's okay.
[Jul 26,2011 4:18pm - arilliusbm ""]
Interesting. I like it and I don't. Emotionless at times, yet the song is okay. Still interested in hearing the whole album, though. Might have to give this a few listens.
[Jul 26,2011 4:19pm - arilliusbm ""]
Guitar tone is more of a 70s tone than death metal. It's much warmer sounding. Definitely going to be interesting.
[Jul 26,2011 4:22pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i'm pretty pscyched about this. getting sick of death metal these days..
[Jul 26,2011 4:27pm - arilliusbm ""]
FuckIsMySignature said:getting sick of death metal these days..
Scaphism just gasped in the background.
[Jul 26,2011 4:34pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
lol i could care less. tony would agree with me. alex and evan only seem to listen to death/black metal though. losers.
[Jul 26,2011 4:38pm - arilliusbm ""]
I agree. I don't listen to as much metal as I was 5+ years ago by any means. Doesn't mean I don't like it. I'm just not as excited over listening to new bands as I used to be. Over produced garbage for DM and loss of black metal aesthetic (generally speaking)... no thx. Only the classics are real.
[Jul 26,2011 4:50pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
arilliusbm said:I agree. I don't listen to as much metal as I was 5+ years ago by any means. Doesn't mean I don't like it. I'm just not as excited over listening to new bands as I used to be. Over produced garbage for DM and loss of black metal aesthetic (generally speaking)... no thx. Only the classics are real.
ya i feel the same. i'm more excited about listening to and playing local death metal than any of the national acts if i'm gonna experience death/black stuff at all. its got moah haht kehd.
[Jul 26,2011 5:08pm - Yeti ""]
if it was made after 2000, chances are i don't care about it. there are exceptions, but generally anything new sucks.
[Jul 26,2011 6:15pm - MikeOv ""]
Not feeling it.
[Jul 27,2011 5:39pm - anonymous ""]
Opeth are musicians.
The new albums are master pieces because they flawlessly explore other musical styles.
It seems that 90% of people here are close-minded elitist chimps.
"Uhhhh there is no DM in dere no moar ohhhhh."
"Onl1 the f1rst 4 are gud."
[Jul 27,2011 5:41pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
shut the fuck up
[Jul 27,2011 5:42pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
the new Opeth is gay
[Jul 27,2011 5:54pm - arilliusbm ""]
anonymous said:Opeth are musicians.
The new albums are master pieces because they flawlessly explore other musical styles.
It seems that 90% of people here are close-minded elitist chimps.
"Uhhhh there is no DM in dere no moar ohhhhh."
"Onl1 the f1rst 4 are gud."
No one is doubting they're "musicians."
Opeth is putting emotion in their music on the back burner now.. anyone that can't see that is a deaf and blind buffoon. You're not a buffoon, are you?
[Jul 27,2011 6:30pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
I think its unreasonable to expect a band over a 20 year period of time to release material that consistently lives up to their fans expectations. They've earned their right in my opinion to write whatever fucking music they want. Take what you like out of it and ignore the rest.
[Jul 27,2011 8:03pm - Randy_Marsh ""]
FuckIsMySignature said:I think its unreasonable to expect a band over a 20 year period of time to release material that consistently lives up to their fans expectations. They've earned their right in my opinion to write whatever fucking music they want. Take what you like out of it and ignore the rest.
doesnt mean it will be good.
[Jul 27,2011 8:33pm - sinistas ""]
arilliusbm said:
Opeth is putting emotion in their music on the back burner now.
My #1 issue with The Devil's Orchard. It's completely soulless.
[Jul 27,2011 8:48pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
sinistas said:
arilliusbm said:
Opeth is putting emotion in their music on the back burner now.
My #1 issue with The Devil's Orchard. It's completely soulless.
just listened to this track finally. i know what they are going for and thats all well and good .. but this was just boring to me. maybe it will grow on me if i hear the full album a couple times... buuuut i'm not confident about that. i still stand by my earlier comment.
[Jul 27,2011 10:16pm - thirdknuckle ""]
natural progression from Watershed. They've been moving toward prog & away from death/black metal for a while now.
WHAT EVERRRRR
great bands constantly evolve. think Rush---how far out have they gone from their 1st few albums?? Granted they came back and settled into an amalgam of all of their different sounds over the last few records but hey let a band progress. if you don't like em anymore, stop listening.
[Jul 27,2011 11:31pm - sinistas ""]
I haven't seen many people lamenting the lack of DM influence, or saying that a band isn't allowed to evolve.
[Jul 27,2011 11:54pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
thirdknuckle said:natural progression from Watershed. .
Watershed was good enough to be an Opeth album, but this is the point where they started to lose me. So yes, you are right - they CAN evolve all they want but they are also losing my interest as well as many other devoted fans interest by doing so. All the power to them.. and yes, if I don't like something I obviously won't listen to it much...DUH. Doesn't mean I'm going to withhold my opinion about the music. They earned their right to "evolve' and I've earned my right to complain about it after investing so much of my time and finances into their band.
[Jul 28,2011 12:02am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
Additionally, why would they replace two of their biggest finesse players, Peter Lindgren and Martin Lopez, with such powerhouse death/thrash talents like Axenrot (Bloodbath) and Akkeson (Arch Enemy) and then move AWAY from a death metal direction? That makes no sense to me. If anything they should have either moved MORE into a death/thrash direction OR hire some musicians who specialize in that spacey prog style specifically.
[Jul 28,2011 12:03am - thirdknuckle ""]
sinistas said:I haven't seen many people lamenting the lack of DM influence, or saying that a band isn't allowed to evolve.
"Only pre Blackwater Park is real."
"so I'm not happy that they've ditched the gruffs"
"Damnation sequel or GTFO."
"Opeth is putting emotion in their music on the back burner now."
"the new Opeth is gay"
"Still Life > Everything else"
[Jul 28,2011 12:06am - thirdknuckle ""]
Just saying that this is what great bands do if they are around long enough to do it... and it's why bands with longevity can attain longevity
[Jul 28,2011 12:44am - arilliusbm ""]
It should be a simple assertion that all bands evolve. Musicians evolve. Artists evolve. The question is if you enjoy how the band evolves. I used to really love Opeth because of the atmosphere and forest-type feel in their music. They started to lose it after Blackwater Park. Deliverance and Damnation weren't that bad at all, but that was the beginning of the end of my interest in the band. They're never going to release a "bad" album per se; but for what Opeth represents to me, it's gone. The emotion is not there anymore.. at least the emotion that earlier Opeth conveyed.
I like a lot of 70s rock and prog, so I am interested in hearing this stuff, albeit my connection with Opeth has been lost for a few years now.
[Jul 28,2011 1:05am - thirdknuckle ""]
Yup. I find certain Rush albums unlistenable. But I still think they are one of the greatest bands ever, and love them even more for their willingness experiment and ability to evolve
[Jul 28,2011 1:10am - goatcatalyst ""]
I'd love to weigh in here, but the matter at hand is far more faggot than hipster and thus, I am out of my element.
[Jul 28,2011 9:45am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
do a hipster faggot rituatl about it
[Jul 28,2011 9:53am - dreadkill ""]
thirdknuckle said:
sinistas said:I haven't seen many people lamenting the lack of DM influence, or saying that a band isn't allowed to evolve.
"Only pre Blackwater Park is real."
"so I'm not happy that they've ditched the gruffs"
"Damnation sequel or GTFO."
"Opeth is putting emotion in their music on the back burner now."
"the new Opeth is gay"
"Still Life > Everything else"
i think sinistas was talking about the Opeth forum fanboys rather than the rttp crowd. the fanboys are eating the new stuff up with a smile.
[Jul 28,2011 9:54am - dreadkill ""]
arilliusbm said:It should be a simple assertion that all bands evolve. Musicians evolve. Artists evolve. The question is if you enjoy how the band evolves. I used to really love Opeth because of the atmosphere and forest-type feel in their music. They started to lose it after Blackwater Park. Deliverance and Damnation weren't that bad at all, but that was the beginning of the end of my interest in the band. They're never going to release a "bad" album per se; but for what Opeth represents to me, it's gone. The emotion is not there anymore.. at least the emotion that earlier Opeth conveyed.
I like a lot of 70s rock and prog, so I am interested in hearing this stuff, albeit my connection with Opeth has been lost for a few years now. my thoughts exactly
[Jul 28,2011 9:58am - dreadkill ""]
thirdknuckle said:Yup. I find certain Rush albums unlistenable. But I still think they are one of the greatest bands ever, and love them even more for their willingness experiment and ability to evolve i agree here too. i think rush is the best band on the planet. i love almost everything they've done, but i'm not about to pull presto off the shelf anytime soon. if they hadn't experimented with the synth sound, we wouldn't have a song like subdivisions, which is one of my all time favorites by them, even though i prefer the more guitar-driven stuff.
[Jul 28,2011 10:03am - sinistas ""]
dreadkill said:
thirdknuckle said:
sinistas said:I haven't seen many people lamenting the lack of DM influence, or saying that a band isn't allowed to evolve.
"Only pre Blackwater Park is real."
"so I'm not happy that they've ditched the gruffs"
"Damnation sequel or GTFO."
"Opeth is putting emotion in their music on the back burner now."
"the new Opeth is gay"
"Still Life > Everything else"
i think sinistas was talking about the Opeth forum fanboys rather than the rttp crowd. the fanboys are eating the new stuff up with a smile.
Of course. People here hate everything.
[Jul 28,2011 10:28am - anonymous ""]
of course, they / we are opeth fans. so special an unique we think we know and deserve everything. im glad the official opeth forum disappeared.
[Jul 28,2011 10:44am - sinistas ""]
I don't hold anything against Akerfeldt for going in this direction. Obviously he's wanted to write this sort of material for a while. I can't complain, really. If this album isn't my thing, I'll just listen to their other releases.
[Jul 28,2011 12:30pm - arilliusbm ""]
A light just went off and I now remember Sinistas on the old ultimate metal forums. lol.
Dreadkill as well I think
[Jul 28,2011 12:57pm - dreadkill ""]
i never posted much. sometimes in the katatonia forum, but almost never anywhere else.
[Jul 28,2011 4:40pm - ark ""]
Respectable and influential band that always suffers from so much hype. Queuing up Nightwish right now.
[Jul 28,2011 4:56pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
bennyhillifier
[Jul 28,2011 5:35pm - MikeOv ""]
arilliusbm said:It should be a simple assertion that all bands evolve. Musicians evolve. Artists evolve. The question is if you enjoy how the band evolves. I used to really love Opeth because of the atmosphere and forest-type feel in their music. They started to lose it after Blackwater Park. Deliverance and Damnation weren't that bad at all, but that was the beginning of the end of my interest in the band. They're never going to release a "bad" album per se; but for what Opeth represents to me, it's gone. The emotion is not there anymore.. at least the emotion that earlier Opeth conveyed.
This, basically.
[Jul 29,2011 2:47am - Randy_Marsh ""]
no forest, no listen.
[Jul 29,2011 11:32am - I am Disappointed ""]
The new song isn't bad but the guitar tone fucking sucks! Its sound like it was recorded using a old peavey practice amp..
[Aug 31,2011 5:50pm - guitarStudent ""]
I%20am%20Disappointed said:The new song isn't bad but the guitar tone fucking sucks!
(Background on me: Im an aspiring guitar player who is currently working on "dialing in" the perfect tone - so I'm asking this for my own education
What specifically do you dislike about the guitar tone on Devils Orchard? In other words, if hypothetically, you had his amp in front of you - what would you change to make the tone more to your liking?
[Aug 31,2011 5:53pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I'd turn the "Opeth" down. Way down.
[Aug 31,2011 5:54pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
needs moar Peter Lindgren and less stupid asshole from Arch Enemy.