sickest vocalists, by genre[views:16178][posts:91]______________________________ [Jun 10,2004 9:39pm - cdan ""] hardcore/metalcore: TIE between mike oleander of burnt by the sun and nate deadwater on demo 2002 black metal: Arckanum, on anything power metal: Hansi of Rhapsody :NEWHORNS: death/grind: TIE between Joe Hovath of Circle of Dead Children (on human harvest) and Goratory Adam (on Rice on Suade, bitch!) ...feel free to add new categories, let's see em. |
___________________________________ [Jun 10,2004 9:43pm - Dissector ""] Oldschool grindcore: Stevo De Caixo (Impetigo) Thrash: tie between Angelripper (Sodom) and Tom Araya Death Metal: Matt Harvy (Exumed) Misc: King Diamond |
___________________________________ [Jun 10,2004 9:46pm - Dissector ""] Best all around vocalists I would have to say tie between Matt Harvey and Stevo De Caixo. What Matt does in Exhumed now is nothing compared to what he used to do and what he does in Dekapitator. |
________________________________ [Jun 10,2004 9:57pm - retzam ""] Cdan, I do believe you mean Hansi Kürsch of Blind Guardian (no one in Rhapsody is named Hansi). Black Metal - Ihsahn, Blakkheim, Shagrath Death Metal - Lord Worm, Mikael Åkerfeldt Power Metal - Hansi Kürsch alone!!! |
___________________________________________ [Jun 10,2004 10:04pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] you guys havent heard enough power metal if you think Blind Guardian's vocalist is the best. Labyrinth, Kamelot, Luca Turilli/Dionysus, Hammerfall all have way bertter vocalists... and thats just those bands... there are a bunch more. |
_______________________________ [Jun 10,2004 10:13pm - cdan ""] retzam said:Cdan, I do believe you mean Hansi Kürsch of Blind Guardian (no one in Rhapsody is named Hansi). Black Metal - Ihsahn, Blakkheim, Shagrath Death Metal - Lord Worm, Mikael Åkerfeldt Power Metal - Hansi Kürsch alone!!! yeah, my bad, I meant Fabio Lione from Rhapsody, haha, I believe that translates to "gay lion." you just can't beat his german accent. the dude from Falconer is amazing too. |
_________________________________ [Jun 10,2004 10:32pm - retzam ""] TheGreatSpaldino said:you guys havent heard enough power metal if you think Blind Guardian's vocalist is the best. Labyrinth, Kamelot, Luca Turilli/Dionysus, Hammerfall all have way bertter vocalists... and thats just those bands... there are a bunch more. I just think that he has (and I have never said this about a man before) an absolutely beautiful voice and a really great sense of harmony and structure. It isn't really an alarm clock metal voice, cause when he reaches for those high notes his tone doesn't really get brighter, and he does an awesome job of disguising his falsetto so it basically sounds like his normal register. Also, he has that great tremelo technique (not a vibrato like most metal singers) and he knows exactly where to throw it in so as not to overdo it. That's why he is my favorite singer. |
____________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 1:23am - BornSoVile ""] CDAN, Adam's vocals on Rice on Suede make me wanna puke!!!!!!! 8 Seconds of Fury is fucking amazing dude. |
___________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 1:46am - JellyFish ""] Black metal: Ihsahn, Nergal(early), Nodviet Death metal: Corpsegridner Thrash: Mille Pettrone Power: Fabio Lione, Tarja Turunen misc: Oderus, Alexi Laho, Mikael Akerfeldt(he does vocals beyond death so i put him here) |
_______________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 4:03am - DeOdiumMortis ""] BM - Ihsahn, Garm, Vortex, Vintersorg. I masterbate to Borknagar. DM - Danny (Malignancy) PM - Warryl Dane because his name is so terrible and he's a drunk idiot but sounds good on CD. JFM (just fucking Metal) - Devin Townsend |
______________________________ [Jun 11,2004 6:13am - cdan ""] BornSoVile said:CDAN, Adam's vocals on Rice on Suede make me wanna puke!!!!!!! 8 Seconds of Fury is fucking amazing dude. yeah, its beautiful. :pukeface: |
_______________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 8:30am - Joe/NotCommon ""] [img] |
______________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 9:15am - the_reverend ""] the singer of cattle decapitation's vocals are awesome too. he sounds like a pig being slaughtered. |
________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 10:11am - jake ""] yeah the cattle decap. vocals are pretty wild on the cd. i can only imagine how they are live. the singer of sublime cadaveric decomposition's vocals are probably some of the best vocals going on in grind/goregrind/blah blah blah label label label right now. |
__________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 10:31am - tbone_r ""] i'd say the guy doing high vocals for ken haskell is the gayest thing in music right now |
______________________________ [Jun 11,2004 1:12pm - nick ""] for Dmetal: the guy from sadis euphoria, or the guy from SCD. for local grind: lee from umbrella or doug from ToA/s+f. all around: USHER RAYMOND. |
_______________________________ [Jun 11,2004 1:13pm - jake ""] hey tom, remember that time you had sex with a guy? |
_________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 2:45pm - tbone_r ""] i know jackie has some manly features......but i wouldnt go as far as to say she's a guy |
_____________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 2:56pm - RustedAngel ""] CLASSIC METAL: Rob Halford. DEATH METAL: Corpsegrinder (CC), Karl Sanders (Nile), Dallas Wade (Nile), Erik Rutan (HE), Psycroptic dood guy. POWER METAL: Matt Barlow (IE), Primal Fear (halford look alike) THRASH METAL: Johan? (The Crown), Exodus, Overkill BLACK METAL: Singer (Gorgoroth) - crushing the scepter |
______________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 2:59pm - swamplorddvm ""] The dude from VADER-Death Metal |
______________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 3:04pm - swamplorddvm ""] Ms.nastia (Carrie)-Orgasm Oh snap! |
_________________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 3:27pm - attendmyrequiem ""] no one mentioned matti way of disgorge or rubin of devourment? |
___________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 3:45pm - ninkaszi ""] black metal-everyone in mysticum, dead (mayhem), nocturno culto (darkthrone), lino reca (hemlock, the dying light, old cattlepress), paul ledney (profanatica, havohej), mirai (sigh) death metal-glen benton on the first three deicide albums, david vincent (morbid angel), pete helmkamp (order from chaos, angelcorpse, revenge), lg petrov (nihilist, entombed), johan edlund (treblinka, old tiamat), craig pillard (incantation, DOM, womb, methadrone) thrash metal- mille (kreator), tom araya, paul baloff hardcore-john joseph (cro-mags), budda, rob (blood for blood), henry rollins (black flag) grindcore-lee dorian (napalm death) heavy metal-paul dianno (iron maiden), king diamond (mf/kd) sludge-mike williams (eyehategod), jeff (grief) |
________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 4:42pm - xmikex ""] hardcore - mike score ALL OUT WAR grind - whats his name DISCORDANCE AXIS parrot death metal - the bird from HATEBEAK |
_____________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 5:02pm - Robdeadskin ""] HARDCORE- SINGER OF TERROR DEATHMETAL-FRANK MULLEN(SUFFOCATION)OR BARNEY GREENWAY(NAPALM DEATH) TRASH METAL-STEVE SOUSA(EXODUS) KYLE(EXHORDER) I dont listen to much black metal so.......n/c NOISECORE/GRIND- SETH PUTTNAM(ANAL CUNT)LEE DORIAN(EARLY NAPALM DEATH):satancross: |
____________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 5:26pm - deadhooker ""] JellyFish said:Black metal: Ihsahn, Nergal(early), Nodviet Death metal: Corpsegridner Thrash: Mille Pettrone Power: Fabio Lione, Tarja Turunen misc: Oderus, Alexi Laho, Mikael Akerfeldt(he does vocals beyond death so i put him here) Corpsegrinder....love the toilet throat |
__________________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 5:32pm - Cryptic Anthony ""] TheGreatSpaldino said:you guys havent heard enough power metal if you think Blind Guardian's vocalist is the best. Labyrinth, Kamelot, Luca Turilli/Dionysus, Hammerfall all have way bertter vocalists... and thats just those bands... there are a bunch more. I've listened to those bands and a bunch more, but I personally think Hansi is one of the best. |
______________________________ [Jun 11,2004 5:47pm - cdan ""] attendmyrequiem said:no one mentioned matti way of disgorge or rubin of devourment? definitely, both are amazing. but i dunno, i was listening to "cranial impalement" the other day, and compared to the new circle of dead children, it didnt seem nearly as brutal as it once had. devourment vox will always be a classic, his only weakness is lack of versatility. |
__________________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 6:21pm - intricateprocess ""] horvath on the CODC is out of control........the vocals on that are so freaking intense......so much range,versatility |
__________________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 7:47pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] just heard the new Vision Divine... and im really loving this guys vocals. so good. |
_____________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 8:09pm - Christraper ""] Metal: King Diamond Power Metal: Rob Halford Black Metal: Varg Death Metal: Glen Benton Doom Metal: that dude from Opeth when he sang for Katatonia Thrash Metal: Tom G. Warrior |
__________________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 8:20pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] http://www.fanta.dk/news.asp?nid=E5FB4E75-1197-4906-97FF-F26D1D67290A |
________________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 9:12pm - xdysenterytomx ""] Death Grind: Ruban Rosas, Celine deian. Black metal: venessa carlton Thrash: Cory from slipknot Power Metal: Adam Spalding |
_______________________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 9:47pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Death Metal... Dan Swano (Blood Bath, Edge of Sanity) , Pete Angel Corpse, David Vincent, Benton,corpsegrinder, and the wankers in Gorerotted Black Metal... Gorgoroth "Pentegram", Mikka from Impaled Nazarene, Varg on the first Burzum record, Jon Dissection... |
________________________________ [Jun 11,2004 11:53pm - silky ""] black metal: maniac(mayhem) new school hardcore:jake bannon(converge) death metal:john tardy(obituary) old school hardcore:kurt (D.R.I.) grindcore:j.r. hayes(pig destroyer) punk:cal(discharge) thrash:tom angelripper(sodom) power metal: mutha fuckin' bruce dickenson(iron maiden) industrial: ogre(skinny puppy) |
_____________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 12:26am - BornSoVile ""] Lord Worm. |
________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 1:11am - xmikex ""] BEST HARDCORE SINGER EVER IS ADAM SPALDING OF DIECAST br000tal |
_________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 2:18am - attendmyrequiem ""] silky said: new school hardcore:jake bannon(converge) than you must also be a fan of my neighbors dog's barking. |
________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 1:49pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] Timo Fuckin Kotipelto!!!! king d, maniac, shagrath joacim cans, Andi Deris, HANSI KURSCH! Aaron Stainthorpe...nuff said |
__________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 1:51pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] xmikex said:BEST HARDCORE SINGER EVER IS ADAM SPALDING OF DIECAST br000tal ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i dont really look like him!!!!!!!11111111 |
__________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 2:13pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] why does everyone love Hansi's voice so much? its all right I guess.. but man... i've been listening to the new Vision Divine a lot and this guy has to have, in my opinion, the best power metal voice. powerful as hell... and he can hold a wail for 22 seconds, shifting notes inbetween! fucking amazing. if you are looking for a Hansi-esque voice, but better, listen to Burning Point. |
________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 2:18pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] TheGreatSpaldino said:why does everyone love Hansi's voice so much? its all right I guess.. but man... i've been listening to the new Vision Divine a lot and this guy has to have, in my opinion, the best power metal voice. powerful as hell... and he can hold a wail for 22 seconds, shifting notes inbetween! fucking amazing. if you are looking for a Hansi-esque voice, but better, listen to Burning Point. I think Hansis vocals are just plain unique.... either that or bg has subliminal messages in their music saying (hansi's vocal are the best)???!!? i dunno I still think Kotipelto's at the top |
__________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 2:26pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] Michele Luppi is the name of the guy on the new Vision Divine album. |
______________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 2:32pm - swamplorddvm ""] I like Guardians as well. He may not have a super great voice with super duper range but I do like the way it sounds and the way he uses it. |
________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 2:44pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] i just found a cool indie power band from norway, check em out http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/gaiaepicus2003music.htm |
____________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 2:58pm - thornnvine ""] death metal-that chick from nuclear death power metal- Paul D'Ano Iron Maiden, Iron Maiden |
______________________________ [Jun 12,2004 3:17pm - cdan ""] attendmyrequiem said:silky said: new school hardcore:jake bannon(converge) than you must also be a fan of my neighbors dog's barking. word. i think that dude is way overrated. |
____________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 7:53pm - BornSoVile ""] Black Metal - Varg |
__________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 9:32pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] Thrash metal - Ice(d) T |
______________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 10:24pm - The_ExhumeD ""] best all around and most inovative vocalist - mike patton ( faith no more, fantomas, mr. bungle, did the dillinger ep, ect. ect.) |
___________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 10:49pm - powerkok ""] perry farrels vocals are sick cuz he has aids. |
_________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 10:51pm - assuck ""] intricateprocess said:horvath on the CODC is out of control........the vocals on that are so freaking intense......so much range,versatility there is a small possibility that the Abhorred cd release party will be with CODC |
___________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 11:20pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] Mike Patton is way too over-rated. |
______________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 11:43pm - The_ExhumeD ""] you know what fuck you because hes not such an asshole he does all out screaming - he does everything which is what I apreciate about him. I love mr. bungle and fantomas and you cant say that he didnt do well on his dillinger EP, your just disagreeing for the sake of it fuck-o |
___________________________________________ [Jun 12,2004 11:49pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] no... i just think he is over-rated. i enjoy his dillinger stuff and some of mr bungle but i dont see why people crap themselves about him. *shrug* |
______________________________ [Jun 13,2004 3:02am - cdan ""] TheGreatSpaldino said:no... i just think he is over-rated. i enjoy his dillinger stuff and some of mr bungle but i dont see why people crap themselves about him. *shrug* oh man, i could not agree more. i don't understand people's obcession with patton at all. you can't even say anything bad about him without somebody having a shit fit. i don't think he's anything special. |
_______________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 4:44am - DeOdiumMortis ""] I don't get what's so great either. More power to him for being successful with a lot of a different projects, but that doesn't mean we all have to like all of it. |
_________________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 10:39am - xdysenterytomx ""] isn't he all fucked up on heroin? |
________________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 10:58am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Cliff Hanger - hardcore King Diamond - metal |
__________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 1:32pm - abhorred ""] BornSoVile said:Lord Worm. YES!! |
__________________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 1:38pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] NO!! Lord Worm is terrible. |
________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 2:07pm - retzam ""] I can't stand those really low growls, but for some reason I love Lord Worm's. |
_________________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 2:41pm - attendmyrequiem ""] The_ExhumeD said:you know what fuck you because hes not such an asshole he does all out screaming - he does everything which is what I apreciate about him. I love mr. bungle and fantomas and you cant say that he didnt do well on his dillinger EP, your just disagreeing for the sake of it fuck-o HE RUINED THAT CD! Now there are bands like radation 4 who sound like mike patton era DEP. WORST fucking thing to ever put my ears through. |
__________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 2:43pm - mike_fod ""] Mike Patton = John Zorn poseur. Burton C. Bell Jens Kidman Carley Coma (Pre - 300% Density) True. |
___________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 3:04pm - dread_104 ""] death- jay netheton(fetus in its heyday) darren travis/sadus thrash- kyle/exhorder bobby blitz/overkill power metal- kai hansen/helloween (note: Walls of Jerhico is the only Helloween album!) |
______________________________ [Jun 13,2004 3:32pm - cdan ""] attendmyrequiem said:The_ExhumeD said:you know what fuck you because hes not such an asshole he does all out screaming - he does everything which is what I apreciate about him. I love mr. bungle and fantomas and you cant say that he didnt do well on his dillinger EP, your just disagreeing for the sake of it fuck-o HE RUINED THAT CD! Now there are bands like radation 4 who sound like mike patton era DEP. WORST fucking thing to ever put my ears through. no shit, that cd actually has some good material if it wasnt for that moron. he can't even scream without using a distortion effect. |
_____________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 3:38pm - The_ExhumeD ""] it was something new for dillinger and yeah the cd isnt my favorite, Im not trying to say mike patton is the greatest vocalist ever. But hes done alot of shit and his versitality is endless. and if you want to bitch about distortion effects, listen to bands like today is the day or mortician ect... alot of vocalists use distortion, perhaps the man can't scream or maybe he just likes the way it sounds with distortion. either way I could care less what you think becuase he is a good vocalist |
______________________________ [Jun 13,2004 3:53pm - cdan ""] The_ExhumeD said:it was something new for dillinger and yeah the cd isnt my favorite, Im not trying to say mike patton is the greatest vocalist ever. But hes done alot of shit and his versitality is endless. and if you want to bitch about distortion effects, listen to bands like today is the day or mortician ect... alot of vocalists use distortion, perhaps the man can't scream or maybe he just likes the way it sounds with distortion. either way I could care less what you think becuase he is a good vocalist good for you man. bottom line: distortion effects on vocals = gay |
_____________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 8:25pm - The_ExhumeD ""] bottom line - go get fucked, and see if I care |
______________________________ [Jun 13,2004 8:42pm - cdan ""] The_ExhumeD said:bottom line - go get fucked, and see if I care haha, awesome, just like i said, you can't say anything bad about patton without some douche bag having a shit fit. go suck a ballbag kid. |
___________________________________ [Jun 13,2004 8:50pm - xmtv420x ""] run |
________________________________________ [Jun 15,2004 12:59pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] With or without Mike Patton, Dillinger Escape Plan is annoying. With or without Dillinger Escape Plan, Mike Patton is anoying. Fuck both of you. |
_____________________________________ [Jun 15,2004 1:07pm - RustedAngel ""] Joe/NotCommon said:With or without Mike Patton, Dillinger Escape Plan is annoying. With or without Dillinger Escape Plan, Mike Patton is anoying. Fuck both of you. |
______________________________ [Jun 15,2004 1:12pm - Wood ""] Chuck Billy from the one and only Testament. He goes lower than any one... sings prettier than anyone... screamed like a banshee in the 80's and still owns all in 2004, even after having throat cancer.. You don't get any more fuckin metal than that. |
_______________________________________ [Jun 15,2004 1:23pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] pop: Dolores from the Cranberries |
_______________________________ [Jun 15,2004 1:34pm - moran ""] Wood said:Chuck Billy from the one and only Testament. He goes lower than any one... sings prettier than anyone... screamed like a banshee in the 80's and still owns all in 2004, even after having throat cancer.. You don't get any more fuckin metal than that. Chuck Billy rules. I can't think of vocalists right now. And as for Patton, I could give two shits if you like him or not, he is one of my favorite musicians. Its not for everyone. But whats wrong with vocal effects? If you can use pedals for guitar or bass, or triggers for drums, why not effects on vocals? |
_______________________________________ [Jun 15,2004 1:42pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] I don't mind vocal effects at all, it all depends on how it sounds in the song. Cock and ball torture does it well, but I heard some other death metal band who tried to use them and it sounded dumb. Does Mike Patton even write any music for his projects or does he just do vocals? |
_______________________________ [Jun 15,2004 2:15pm - moran ""] Most metal singers use effects on their vocals. Patton writes all the music for Fantomas, he has some solo records that are all him. He wrote a ton of Faith No More. He wrote some Mr. Bungle. |
________________________________ [Jun 15,2004 4:17pm - Abbath ""] ok i gave this alot of thought.... Black metal- Abbath, Maniac, Count Grishnackh Death Metal- Mikael Akerfeldt (when they're doing their death stuff), Jon Nodtveidt Doom metal- Aaron Stainthorpe, Jonas Renkse Power metal- Timo Kotipelto, Hansi Kursch Thrash- Tom Araya Industrial- Burton C Bell Metal- King Diamond |
_________________________________ [Jun 15,2004 5:57pm - Soloman ""] I can understand the patton worship. He is an interesting guy and puts his unique spin on every project he works on, while at the same time these many projects have all sounded very different. He's a good performer, and i enjoy some of his work, especially the Fantomas stuff i've heard. It's just zany stuff, like an over the top horror film that is very elaborate but at the same time doesn't take itself seriously. I understand the patton worship, but i definitely dont worship the man. Patton fan boys = boring. |
______________________________ [Jun 15,2004 9:51pm - cdan ""] Soloman said:I can understand the patton worship. He is an interesting guy and puts his unique spin on every project he works on, while at the same time these many projects have all sounded very different. He's a good performer, and i enjoy some of his work, especially the Fantomas stuff i've heard. It's just zany stuff, like an over the top horror film that is very elaborate but at the same time doesn't take itself seriously. I understand the patton worship, but i definitely dont worship the man. Patton fan boys = boring. really? see, i just think he's a homo. :moe: |
_______________________________ [Jun 15,2004 9:54pm - moran ""] Great, and people who get pissed at you for not liking him are also homos. |
______________________________________ [Jun 15,2004 11:56pm - The_ExhumeD ""] cdan said:The_ExhumeD said:bottom line - go get fucked, and see if I care haha, awesome, just like i said, you can't say anything bad about patton without some douche bag having a shit fit. go suck a ballbag kid. only if its yours you whore |
__________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 10:19am - soloman ""] nobody listens to the vocalist in a metal band. It's all GEE-TAR! WHAMMY SQEEEEUAL! |
___________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 2:00pm - JellyFish ""] thats not true. |
__________________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 2:09pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] the thing that no one gives a rats ass about in metal is the bass... now THATS true. |
___________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 2:32pm - JellyFish ""] i care more about the bass then the lyrics. |
________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 2:39pm - Abbath ""] this is true Spaldino but the problem is that they're the most wanted around here.... |
_____________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 2:52pm - aliciagrace ""] yea so dont quit terminally, you jerk. |
_____________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 3:23pm - RustedAngel ""] TheGreatSpaldino said:the thing that no one gives a rats ass about in metal is the bass... now THATS true. you should join porphyria if we ever need a bass player :spineyes: |
___________________________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 3:51pm - attendmyrequiem @ school ""] cdan said:Soloman said:I can understand the patton worship. He is an interesting guy and puts his unique spin on every project he works on, while at the same time these many projects have all sounded very different. He's a good performer, and i enjoy some of his work, especially the Fantomas stuff i've heard. It's just zany stuff, like an over the top horror film that is very elaborate but at the same time doesn't take itself seriously. I understand the patton worship, but i definitely dont worship the man. Patton fan boys = boring. really? see, i just think he's a homo. :moe: smartest thing ever said |
__________________________________________ [Jun 16,2004 5:23pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] aliciagrace said:yea so dont quit terminally, you jerk. oh yes... lets completely forget about the fact that i want to take control of my life and go and do things that help make me prosper as a person and as an adult and as a bass player and instead stay a sad, depressed, fat hunk of shit. good call =) |