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[QUOTE="the_taste_of_cigarettes:98827"]hmmm this puts me between a rock and a hard place I like all music pretty equally, but I agree scene shit is horrendous....i think there should be a lot more tolerance. but on the OTHER hand I TOTALLY agree that part of what is making hardcore shitty is the fashion and the fucking cliques. This shit around boston is NOT hardcore...hardcore was about friends and meeting new people and exploring differences and voicing distastes. I remember when all the hardcore kids were nerds and we loved it and were socially inept together. Now it's all about knowing kid A and kid B and hanging at the cool spots. I can see why people don't want that to happen to metal. on the other hand(three hands!) I got turned onto metal because it wasn't a scene that was all fashiony and elitist, too...it was a bunch of slobs and idiots and sometimes all out geniuses. it was the kids who played star wars RPGs and it was great. They all liked lighting cherry bombs or saying mom jokes over and over. And the music was about cool stuff like corpses or politics, and that meant despite the crustiness of it that the music was really poignant. I book shows with a lot of different styles like Tim does cause I agree, I don't want to hear the same shit all day long. But i can see where people are coming from.[/QUOTE]
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