name some good Grind bands[views:28784][posts:144]__________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 6:20pm - Kalopsia ""] ever since the Maryland Death Fest i have really been getting into grind. but i don't know of too many grind bands. the ones i have cds of are Nasum, Rotten Sound, Leng Tch'e, Regurgitate, Dataclast, and Circle of Dead Children. what are some other good grind bands? |
___________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 6:22pm - Dissector ""] http://www.razorbackrecords.com |
____________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 6:42pm - tyagxgrind ""] mine. hahahah nah we suck! try Discordance Axis, 324 or Assuck |
__________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 6:46pm - Kalopsia ""] nah man i've heard TYAG, you guys are good. i can't believe i forgot Discordance Axis, they're my friend's favorite band he's always talking about them |
______________________________ [Aug 22,2004 6:51pm - nick ""] i cant wait until some kid inevitably mentions some band that the majority of the 'extreme' music population doesnt considder to be grind and everyone tells him how gay he is. always happens. |
______________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 6:54pm - swamplorddvm ""] r-kelly is good for bumpin and grindin. |
__________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 6:56pm - niccolai ""] and pissing on your face. |
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________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 8:27pm - Dissector NLI ""] What website did you get that off of? |
__________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 8:47pm - Kalopsia ""] probably his distro collection |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 10:13pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] dude you've come to the right place. if there's one thing I love, it's good old-school grind. I'm gonna be psyched if I find some new bands to rock from this thread. my picks are: Brutal Truth Benumb - old school style, great! Dystopia Siege Anal Cunt Assuck Pig Destroyer Agoraphobic Nosebleed Cattle Decapitation Divorce (from GA) Man I wish I could remember more...I went through this phase where like my best friend was a crusty grind kid and he'd always introduce all this new, great stuff to me... also: The Locust (fuck all you guys, the drumming and bass work are incredibley insane live) As The Sun Sets (say what you will...like grind and some other stuff mixed) I need to know of more good grind. And with Napalm Death...I just can't seem to get into them... Robotic Empire (aka Robodog) used to put out some decent stuff. And so did Deep Six and Slap-A-Ham. I hear old Kevorkian's Angels was like really grindy. |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 10:22pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Siege! \m/ |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 10:27pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] yeah no one ever talks about the band. I remember my friend Tristan played me the disc and I was like "WHOA...this is awesome". I heard DRI the same night. Man, someone should burn me some Siege and DRI so I can listen to them when I want to. oh hey joe, did you like that Prophetic Disclosure discography? You know, the all black disc? |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 10:52pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] I havent got a chance to check it out, ill report back in a day or so. |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 10:55pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] 10-4, captain. |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 10:58pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] How is watchmaker extreme death/grind? Note to self, never trust Dwyer. |
___________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:07pm - Kalopsia ""] thanks guys |
_______________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:09pm - Blue ""] Joe/NotCommon said:How is watchmaker extreme death/grind? Note to self, never trust Dwyer. i consider them to be thrash/grind. |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:09pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Me too |
__________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:47pm - tbone_r ""] daughters and umbrella |
_________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:48pm - assuck ""] nick said:i cant wait until some kid inevitably mentions some band that the majority of the 'extreme' music population doesnt considder to be grind and everyone tells him how gay he is. always happens. see above post |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:48pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] If we are gonna go local; Kevorkian's Angels, Abhorred, Raising Kubrick all have grind influences, one way or another |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:49pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] tbone_r said:daughters and umbrella what? |
_________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:49pm - assuck ""] my ball sweat is more grind than daughters. i havent heard umbrella. |
_________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:50pm - Josh_hates_you ""] 90% of the bands that have been listed i would just call metal. SPAZZ is the best grind band. you all bitch moan and complain when a hardcore band calls themselves metal. well fuck all these metal bands that you call grind. |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:50pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Just because Dwyer calls them grind doesn't mean we all agree with him. |
____________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:55pm - bvllsvck ""] helllo, phobia? also... i know its the 'cool thing to say'. but as the sun sets is shit. seriously. |
________________________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:57pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] as the sun sets is so horrible, it actually makes me mad. |
_______________________________ [Aug 22,2004 11:59pm - Blue ""] Joe/NotCommon said:If we are gonna go local; Kevorkian's Angels, Abhorred, Raising Kubrick all have grind influences, one way or another we have more bump than grind. |
_________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:00am - Josh_hates_you ""] fuck on the beach |
_________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:00am - Josh_hates_you ""] charles bronson |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:01am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Josh_hates_you said:charles bronson YES! I have been looking for their discography everywhere for years now and cannot find it. If anyone has it, please make me a copy. |
_________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:04am - Josh_hates_you ""] my buddy bill has a copy. i saw one at newbury comics in shrewsbury like a week ago. |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:05am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Joe: will trade CB for DRI & Siege deal? It's a double disc. |
_______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:45am - nick ""] spazz is good if you can handle awful vocals. i knew tom was going to be the one to say daughters and get made fun of. umbrella was awesome. napalm death sucks. |
____________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:51am - bvllsvck ""] new napalm death sucks. old napalm death fucking rules. spazz is kinda gay but their awesome live. for some reason i fucking love charles bronson ever since i got that first 12". not the usual shit i listen to but its actually really fucking awesome. not grind though.... |
____________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:56am - bvllsvck ""] yeah by the way. daughters is pretty much the worst shit in the world. x34535 worse than as the sun sucks. PUN! |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:58am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] UH BVILSVCK it's not GRIND??!?! I know you're kidding. 30 second songs with blastbeats. If that's not grind, you're joking. |
___________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 1:37am - bvllsvck ""] its hardcore. |
___________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 7:51am - Korpse-l- ""] YOU'RE FIRED! |
_______________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 9:46am - armageddonday ""] Napalm Death (Scum only), Agathocles, Malignant Tumor, Squash Bowels, Suppository, Carcass Grinder, Violent Headache, Rot, Unholy Grave, Last Days Of HUmanity, Inhume, Cripple Bastards (old please), Patareni, Buka, Fear Of God...and I miss some But please, Daughters, As The Sun Sets and the like ARE NOT FUCKING GRINDCORE get them out of here. |
______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 9:49am - vivi ""] i agree that charles bronson is hardcore. and yeah daughters is awful it doesnt have the dirtiness or abrasiveness that makes good grind. does nasum count? |
_______________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 9:53am - armageddonday ""] I guess Nasum would count cause they've been around for so freaking long, even though I believe they ruined US grind....which never had a hope in hell anyway (beside Hiddeous Mangleus and Repulsion) |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:00am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Nasum sucks, they might be grind, but they still aren't good. Can you burn me or tape Charles Bronson? I will get you some DRI for sure, I lost my Siege tape though, in fact I lost my whole tape collection somewhere along the line. I have been asking Mark Kevorkian to make me copies of all his old demos for years now, cuz I lost those too. Charles Bronson is crust-hardcore, but fucking awesome. PS Anne: Inhume sucks. |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:03am - Joe/NotCommon ""] NotCommonRecords: Inhume sucks PentaAnn: fuck you NotCommonRecords: lets fight |
_______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:04am - vivi ""] why do you say that? (nasum ruined us grind) |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:05am - Joe/NotCommon ""] because they suck, but now tons of bands copy them, so now there are tons of bands who suck |
_______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:10am - vivi ""] i think that the worst thing that has ever happened to american music is not so much the locust (although top 5) as the bands that tried to rip off the locust. like the ironic dancy 'grind' with crazy outfits and 30 word song titles where the dudes make out on stage and then post pictures in their livejournals and everyone does that fucking gaytarded clapping and then they call their album 'milkshakes and bullets'. or something gay. awful. |
_______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:14am - vivi ""] also yeah i agree charles bronson is fucking awesome. im usually not into that kinda stuff but i love that shit. i got the full discography (2 discs) i can burn for you if you want. |
_______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:29am - nick ""] vivi said:i think that the worst thing that has ever happened to american music is not so much the locust (although top 5) as the bands that tried to rip off the locust. who said that the locust was the worst thing to happen to american music? is this universally known? if so im sure they love that title. |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:32am - MarkKevorkian ""] Nasum Pig Destroyer Flesh Parade Blood Duster Assuck Rotten Sound |
____________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:35am - Korpse-l- ""] how ya feelin today mark? work f'n sucks. I got the biggest hangover. bash my f'n head in. Kill Whitey!!! |
____________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:37am - Korpse-l- ""] Hawk-Mo:krusty: |
__________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:47am - tbone_r ""] i love daughters...daughters, daughters, daughters. if you haven't heard umbrella, you're missing out. |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:54am - Joe/NotCommon ""] vivi said:also yeah i agree charles bronson is fucking awesome. im usually not into that kinda stuff but i love that shit. i got the full discography (2 discs) i can burn for you if you want. please do. if there is something you want that I may have, let me know and Ill burn it for you in return |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 11:10am - armageddonday ""] vivi, I think Nasum ruined US grind cause all the bands who called themselved grindcore are somewhat influenced by Nasum and most of these bands don't know shit or never listened to grindcore as we called it in Europe. I think I'm a purist in that sense..but whatever. Nobody knows who the hell is Agathocles here, and they are freaking huge in Europe... |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 11:12am - armageddonday ""] Joe/NotCommon said:NotCommonRecords: Inhume sucks PentaAnn: fuck you NotCommonRecords: lets fight He forgot to mention that I take him up on this fight tonight at 9pm at the Middle East but the bastard brought up the excuse that no one wants to give him a ride to the show. Flaky. |
_____________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 11:21am - JoeDavolla ""] Napalm Death Terrorizer Repulsion Hateplow(Deathgrind) Lock Up Brutal Truth Extreme Noise Terror |
_____________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:03pm - anonymous ""] hateplow is far from deathgrind. |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:07pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] wait...Charles Bronson is grind if hardcore sounded more like CB, I would devote my life to it. just cause the singer was a mod and the bass player wore hats does not make the music hardcore. Anyone can play grind...it's just an amalgamate of punk, hardcore, and metal...in short song format. That's the originaly grind formula, hence the sound of early grind that goes "BLAST BEAT BLAST BEAT BREAKDOWN THRASH/CIRCLE PIT BLAST BEAT END" and the name "grind-CORE" and to all you burners, step off! Joe, if you are at the show tonight, I will have CB with me and you can bring DRI. I will fight all y'alls peoples!!!! |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:08pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] (reposted from above accidentally) |
_______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:10pm - vivi ""] hardcore should sound more like CB |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:12pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] agreed! |
_________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:16pm - Josh_hates_you ""] i agree with taste if ciggarettes. i would not call inhume or last days or any of that shit grind. its all fucking metal. since when was napalm death anything but death metal? the whole brutal domination tour was metal yet all the bands that played someone listed.....................ascendency and FOD might as well be grind too. retards. break out the gauntlets. |
________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:34pm - armageddonday ""] Inhume is pure fucking grindcore...and I'm only talking about Napalm Death "scum" not the other album. |
_________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 12:37pm - Josh_hates_you ""] labels are gay anyways. support brutal music. fuck your scene. snoopy on ice was the best grind show i have ever seen. |
______________________________ [Aug 23,2004 2:35pm - vivi ""] dude snoopy on ice is not fucking grindcore. i was into that shit before any of you assholes fucked it up with your gay labels. fuck you. |
____________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 3:01pm - JoeDavolla ""] If Hateplow aint Deathgrind then what are they? |
________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 4:46pm - xmikex ""] Did anyone mention DISRUPT? if not, fucking shame on you all. creation is crucifixion, phobia, 1 and 1/3 dead babies in 666 trash cans, the failsafe device does anyone remember Tomorrow's Will? |
________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 4:47pm - xmikex ""] and the network is good too. |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 5:00pm - the taste of cigarettes ""] I think no one mentioned Disrupt cause they aren't a grind band. that's the best reason I can think of. it's crust punk if I ever heard it. Brilliant Crust, but Crust just the same. |
______________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 5:08pm - diamond_dave ""] oh wow tomorrow's will, haha...from that to a trillion barnacle lapse. go figure. agothacles > everything. |
___________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 5:11pm - Dissector ""] Agothacles has great music. I just hate bands that preach their political and moral views on you though. |
__________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 5:17pm - the taste of cigarettes ""] you mean like Skrewdriver? |
__________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 5:59pm - Kalopsia ""] Dissector said:Agothacles has great music. I just hate bands that preach their political and moral views on you though. bands have a right to say whatever the hell they want in their lyrics. i like it when bands write about their views on topics. it keeps the lyrical aspect of metal interesting and constantly changing. while granted i'm in a gore based death metal band, how many songs can you really listen to that's all about drinking someone's blood? |
___________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 6:18pm - Dissector ""] how many songs can you really listen to that's all about drinking someone's blood? Countless amounts of songs. Yeah they do have a right to express their opinions through music, and all the power to them. It just doesn't tickle my fancy though. I listen to metal for entertainment and fun, not to get a lecture. If I wanted to know whats going on with the politricks of society I'd read the newspaper. |
_________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 7:01pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Dissector said: how many songs can you really listen to that's all about drinking someone's blood? Countless amounts of songs. Yeah they do have a right to express their opinions through music, and all the power to them. It just doesn't tickle my fancy though. I listen to metal for entertainment and fun, not to get a lecture. If I wanted to know whats going on with the politricks of society I'd read the newspaper. I agree that politics in music can not only be quickly outdated, but often come across as preachy and defy the mood I'm in. however, I think what you said actually proves WHY there IS politics in music. These people think what they are writing about is so important that it can't wait till you read the paper. They want you thinking about it and acting now, because it's something that might have an immediacy to it. Granted, not every song about every political topic is really that urgent, but that's the mentality behind it -- hear a good song, and learn something while you're at it. This is why The Smiths released "Meat Is Murder". |
___________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 7:17pm - Dissector ""] Unless they do it in a fun way like SOD does it just annoys me. I do read the paper and watch the news every day, plus theres the internet now, so I don't need a metal band telling me a 3rd or 4th time whats going on. Everyone has their own opinion though. |
_________________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 7:23pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] true. and I think it's actually due to music and musicians being so preachy that I'm burnt out on politics at 23. I think a lot of people sing these songs without thinking about what they're saying, and then I gotta listen to it. If I hear one more sXe song by somebody who later drinks a 40 I am going to pee my pants. |
____________________________________________ [Aug 23,2004 10:32pm - Brian Griffin Jr ""] Autopsy 666 just gave me a crash course in Grind. Some of those bands are death metal in my opinion, but........cool list anyway. |
_____________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 12:14am - Todd(bombshelter) ""] Plutocracy Pigsty Morticite Abstain |
_____________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 12:18am - todd(bombshelter) ""] Josh_hates_you said: since when was napalm death anything but death metal? Umm...does the "scum" album ring any bells for ya? |
_____________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 3:51am - AUTOPSY_666 ""] or "From Enslavement To Obliteration". |
______________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:13am - Josh_Martin ""] My top ten grind records: 1. Repulsion - Horrified 2. Napalm Death - From Enslavement to Obliteration 3. Brutal Truth - Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses 4. 324 - Customized Circle 5. Soilent Green - Sewn Mouth Secrets 6. Fear of God - As Statues Fell 7. Terrorizer - World Downfall 8. S.O.B. - What's the Truth 9. Anal Blast - Puss Blood Pentagram demo 10. Discordance Axis - Jouhou |
________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:15am - armageddonday ""] First off start learning how to spell "Agathocles" I can see the point of the preaching thing but Agathocles arent really preaching, they're just socially conscious people. Plus the fact that they have been around since 85 without selling out, and man they had the opportunity to, this makes them the best grind band ever. When I discover them when I was 15, that was a relief, I was into deah metal at the time and was going at shows a lot, and had to deal with a lot of bullshit from guys so after a while I got sick of it, then I listen to Agathocles, saw them live and I can thank them cause without them I wouldn't have discover grindcore/crust. They played on the same bill with Entombed and Napalm Death in Eindhoven (Holland) in 89... They deserve respect really, never fucking sell out! This is fucking metal for you. |
________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:20am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Anne is politically correct, she flies off the handle at the slightest hint of a joke. |
______________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:22am - Josh_Martin ""] What do you call that useless flesh that surrounds a vagina? Oh yeah, its called a woman. |
___________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:25am - MikeFOD ""] DAxis, Mule Skinner's Abuse, Terrorizer, Napalm Death's FETO, Nyctophobic's War Criminal Views, 324's Customized Circle, Righteous Pigs, Squash Bowels, etc... and Dahmer / Disrupt are crust/grind kings |
____________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:34am - Dissector ""] I still like Agathocles. |
___________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:36am - MikeFOD ""] Mincecore = nazi's |
________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:53am - armageddonday ""] Josh_Martin said:What do you call that useless flesh that surrounds a vagina? QUOTE] I guess it's a good thing you have your two hands. |
________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 11:54am - armageddonday ""] MikeFOD said:Mincecore = nazi's What the fuck is mincecore anyway? |
____________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 12:01pm - Dissector ""] Agathocles calls themselves Mincecore. I'm pretty sure they made it up but I dunno. I'm also pretty sure they're the only band in that genre. |
________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 12:09pm - armageddonday ""] Yeah, I know, I was just trying to get a more detailed explanation from MikeFOD, he seems to know a lot about it. |
____________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 12:14pm - Dissector ""] Oooops, my bad haha. |
______________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 12:23pm - Josh_Martin ""] armageddonday said:Josh_Martin said:What do you call that useless flesh that surrounds a vagina? QUOTE] I guess it's a good thing you have your two hands. Two hands plus a wife. Try again, Kermit. |
_______________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:11pm - armageddonday ""] lol, that's a good one, it took me a while to figure out who the fuck was Kermit... Joe, don't call me PC again, I might the more PC person you know but if you keep calling me like that I'm going to show you I'm not and YOU WILL REMEMBER IT. |
_________________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:23pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] hey why do french people hate being called frogs? I never understood that. |
_______________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:34pm - armageddonday ""] well, I don't really give a shit how people call me, people can go fuck themselves really. The frog thing for French, the Roastbeef for Brits...I dont really know why, the frog thing is probably because they eat frog legs in France (it's a seasonal event) and I think that gross a lot of people out. In Europe they're always calling each other weird names so I'm kinda used to...there's a decent amount of names for Americans too. Most of these come from past tension between countries (when I say past, it's far far away).. Personally I call human garbage. |
__________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:38pm - MikeFOD ""] Mincecore was started by Agathocles as someone said above. These guys actually had a list online of bands they hated, giving stupid reasons like... for the fact some bands aren't vegan, their songtitles degrade women, they sing about violence, blah blah blah, they're PC dickheads. The music they play is basically grind, mincecore is just what they dubbed themselves, but it's like hxc... more of a gay lifestyle than about the music. |
_______________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:42pm - armageddonday ""] Yeah now that you mentioned it, I remember hearing about this list, that was ages ago right? I just ignored it, I really like Agathocles too much. |
___________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:42pm - korpse-l- ""] i just picked up the Gadget/Remote album. i like it alot. it's relentless. anyone else hear them yet? |
__________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:47pm - MikeFOD ""] Yeah, last time I saw the list was at least a few years ago. |
_____________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 1:58pm - boobtoucher ""] MarkKevorkian said:Nasum Pig Destroyer Flesh Parade Blood Duster Assuck Rotten Sound See? Mark knows. All you REALLY need is FLESH PARADE. Thats just "grind" at its best. The rest he wrote are good too. Also, Acrid is one of the sickest bands ever...they're kinda grindy. Reversal of Man is good too...they're kinda like that grind cross over before it started getting really gay. But, yea, just listen to Mark. |
_________________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 2:01pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] whoa I have Reversal of Man tattoos. I think it's safe to say I like that band. and i am getting Acrid artwork on my knee caps, though I'm not a really big acrid fan, I just love that skull artwork. |
_____________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 2:03pm - boobtoucher ""] Oh yea, and i got arrested the other night cuz I flooded the jail cell I was being held in for "protective custody." I didn't get charged with anything until i took the blanket they gave me and stuffed it down the toilet and kept flushing until the fucking scumbag cops gave me my phone call. |
________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 2:09pm - assuck ""] thats fuckin funny |
_______________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 2:12pm - armageddonday ""] that's fucking hilarious, first time I hear that, good one! |
_____________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 3:35pm - the_rooster ""] pig destroyer commit suicide hemdale nasum gadget last days of humanity napalm death misery index zukuss benumb abuse blood duster regurgitate leng tch'e adnauseum cephalic carnage kalibas malignancy watchmaker so many to name, too many wrecked braincells to remember. |
______________________________ [Aug 24,2004 5:53pm - Blue ""] the_rooster said:kalibas may they rest in peace. |
_________________________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 8:37pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] circle of dead children pantalones abajo marinero |
________________________________ [Aug 24,2004 9:55pm - Hooker ""] goregrind brutal death grind death grind grindcore are you serious? |
___________________________________________________ [Aug 25,2004 1:30am - attendmyrequiem in maine ""] daughters as the sun set converge (someone please tell me you can take a joke) |
______________________________ [Aug 25,2004 1:31am - nick ""] i have the reversal of man / cwv split 'ELECTRIC YOUTHCREW' and it sounds alot like old zao to me haha. awful quality. |
_________________________________________________ [Aug 25,2004 1:45am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Bob Dylan Ani Difranco Cameron Diaz Global Warming Rituals in Nigeria My Balls |
______________________________ [Aug 25,2004 1:48am - nick ""] attendmyrequiem in maine said:daughters as the sun set converge (someone please tell me you can take a joke) CONVERGE DAUGHTS>.....>SINT GRIND..... GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH FUUUUUUUCKK FAG AHHHHHHHHH NOT GRIND IDIOT. FUCK FUUUCK. FUCK. |
_____________________________________ [Aug 25,2004 1:10pm - the_rooster ""] how could i forget circle of dead children. their new cd owns. |
____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 9:28am - anonymous ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:!T.O.O.H.! - Bizarre Progressive Death / Grind Ab:Norm - Grind / Death Metal Abortion - Death / Crust / Grind Abuse (Can) - Brutal Death / Grind Adnauseam - Death Metal / Grind Agathocles - Mincecore / Grindcore Alienation Mental - Death Metal / Grind All Is Suffering - Death Metal / Grindcore Amoebic Dysentery - Sick Goregrind Anal Blast - Grindcore / Death Metal Anal Bleeding - Grind / Brutal Death Metal Anoxia - Death Metal / Grind Antigama - Death Metal / Grind Assück - Death Grind / Grindcore Autophagia - Goregrind Bile (Holland) - Brutal Deathgrind Biolich - Brutal Deathgrind Birdflesh - Death / Grindcore Bodies Lay Broken - Death / Grindcore Bowel Stew - Gore / Death / Grind Bowels Out - Death / Grind C.V.I. - Grindcore / Death Metal Captain Cleanoff - Grindcore Carnal Diafragma - Goregrind Catasexual Urge Motivation Death / Grind Cattle Decapitation - Death Metal / Goregrind Cephalectomy - Death Metal / Grind Cephalic Carnage - Technical Grind / Death Metal Cerebral Turbulency - Death Metal / Grindcore Christ Denied - Death Metal / Grind Cliteater - Brutal Death / Grind Clitorture - Grind / Sludge / Death / Black Metal Clotted Symmetric Sexual Organ - Grindcore Cock And Ball Torture - Pornogrind Commit Suicide - Brutal Deathgrind Consolation - Death Metal / Grind Contrastic - Death Metal / Grind Dahmer - Grind / Death Metal Damnable (Pol) - Brutal Death / Grind Dead Infection - Goregrind Death Reality - Brutal Death / Grind Debodified - Brutal Death / Grind Decomposing Serenity - Grindcore Deflorace - Grinding Death Metal Depression (Ger) - Death Metal / Grind Despised Icon - Grind / Death Metal Disassociate - Grindcore Disgorged Foetus - Goregrind Disharmonic Orchestra - Death / Grind Disordered - Death / Grindcore Dripping - Experimental Brutal Death / Grind Ectopia - Gore / Death / Grind Embalming Theatre - Death / Grind Excruciating Terror - Grind Metal Exit-13 - Grind Exposed Guts - Grind / Death Fermento - Death / Grind Fistfuck - Grindcore / Brutal Death Flesh Grinder - Pathologic Grindcore Fleshgore - Brutal Death / Grind Fornicator - Brutal Death / Grind Frightmare - Death / Grind Fuck... I'm Dead - Grindcore General Surgery - Death / Grind Genital Grinder - Death / Grind Greenfly - Death Metal / Grind Gruesome Stuff Relish - Death / Grind Haemorrhage - Death / Grindcore Hemdale - Grinding Death Hidden Pride - Death / Grind Hideous Mangleus - Death / Grindcore Holocausto Canibal - Death / Grind Horde of Worms - Black / Grind / Death Metal Human Remains - Death / Grind Hybrid Viscery - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Images of Violence - Brutal Death / Grind Impetigo - Death Metal / Gore Grind Inhume - Brutal Grind / Death Metal Intense Hammer Rage - Death / Goregrind Into The Gore - Brutal Death / Grind Isacaarum - Black / Death / Grind JonBenet Ramsey - Brutal Death / Grindcore Kadath - Brutal Death / Grind Kalibas - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Kutabare - Death / Grind Lust of Decay - Brutal Death / Grind Lymphatic Phlegm - Death / Goregrind Machetazo - Harsh Grind / Death Malignant Tumour - Death / Grindcore Manias - Brutal Death / Grind Mastic Scum - Brutal Death / Grindcore Maximum Perversion - Death / Grind Mesrine - Death / Grindcore Mincing Fury And Guttural Clamour of Queer Decay - Goregrind / Brutal Death Mindflair - Death / Grindcore Morbid Savouring - Brutal Death / Goregrind Myopia - Deathgrind Naked Whipper - Black / Grind Negligent Collateral Collapse - Death / Grindcore Neuraxis - Tech / Death / Grind Neuro-Visceral Exhumation - Death / Goregrind Nuclear Death - Grindcore / Death Metal Nyctophobic - Death / Grind Obliterate - Death Metal / Grindcore Organ Harvest - Brutal Death Grind Oxidised Razor - Death / Grindgore Pakeni - Grind / Death Metal Papercut Homicide - Technical Death / Grind Pathologist - Grind / Death / Gore Patologicum - Brutal Death Metal / Goregrind Psyopus - Death / Grind Reinfection - Brutal Deathgrind Repulsion - Grindcore / Death Righteous Pigs - Death / Thrash / Grind Rotten Minds - Brutal Death / Grind Sanitys Dawn - Death / Goregrind Screaming Afterbirth - Brutal Death / Grindcore Skeleton of God - Death / Grind Splatterhouse - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Squash Bowels - Death / Goregrind Stabwound - Brutal Goregrind Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition - Brutal Hyperspeed Death / Goregrind Sulaco - Death Metal/ Grindcore Suppository - Death Metal / Grind Terminally, Your Aborted Ghost - Brutal Death / Grindcore The County Medical Examiners - Death / Goregrind The Day Everything Became Nothing - Death / Grind Thorazine - Thrash / Death / Grind Torsofuck - Brutal Death / Grind Traumatism - Brutal Death/Grind Tu Carne - Extreme Grindgore Uphill Battle - Grinding Death Metal Utopie - Brutal Goregrind Vaginal Carnage - Goregrind Watchmaker - Extreme Death / Grind Whore - Death / Grind WTN - Death / Grind Xysma - Death / Grind Zombified Preachers Of Gore - Death Metal / Grindcore Zubrowska - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Zuckuss - Death / Grindcore |
_____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 10:08am - babyshaker ""] Hooker said:goregrind brutal death grind death grind grindcore are you serious? lol thats what i said lol im sick of all this tech grind.brutal deathgrind,death grind,core grind,goregrind,dog grind,mcdonalds grind well im starting my own clown grind thats right 30 secodns songs about shoving into small cars and hitting people with pie's.......idk ive never really got into grind i think tyag is the closest i get to grind |
___________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 10:13am - brian_dc ""] nice, random bump...I'm gonna use this thread...just started getting into discordance axis now (I'm still a grind noob, but I know that most shit isn't actually grind that call themself grind)...for example, apparently some people in my band say that we're kinda grind...I would have to say that would offend a lot of people and isn't really even accurate, we maybe have a part or two that has any similarity to real grind...why am I talking? |
_______________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 12:24pm - the rooster ""] total fucking destruction rotten sound agoraphobic nosebleed nasum commit suicide zuckuss misery index cephalic carnage uphill battle napalm death contrastic i'm sure all the rest have been covered by now |
___________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 1:10pm - Todd NLI ""] Dissector NLI said:What website did you get that off of? He got that off of Metal Archives I bet...He always uses that :NEWHORNS: |
______________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 4:53pm - Patnomalous ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:dude you've come to the right place. if there's one thing I love, it's good old-school grind. I'm gonna be psyched if I find some new bands to rock from this thread. my picks are: Brutal Truth Benumb - old school style, great! Dystopia Siege Anal Cunt Assuck Pig Destroyer Agoraphobic Nosebleed Cattle Decapitation Divorce (from GA) Man I wish I could remember more...I went through this phase where like my best friend was a crusty grind kid and he'd always introduce all this new, great stuff to me... also: The Locust (fuck all you guys, the drumming and bass work are incredibley insane live) As The Sun Sets (say what you will...like grind and some other stuff mixed) I need to know of more good grind. And with Napalm Death...I just can't seem to get into them... Robotic Empire (aka Robodog) used to put out some decent stuff. And so did Deep Six and Slap-A-Ham. I hear old Kevorkian's Angels was like really grindy. Dude, Napalm Death invented the term and music, Grindcore. Try Napalm's 1987's "Scum" or 1988's "From Enslavement to Obliteration". Now that's grind. It has a completly different line up then there is today and a different sound. It was way more brutal back then. How about Sore Throat, or early Old Lady Drivers |
_____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:00pm - KeithMutiny ""] Throwing Shrapnel is the only one that really matters, to be honest. |
___________________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:13pm - Notorious D.U.G. ""] Relevant Few Morser Genghis Tron Captain Cleanoff The Kill Cretin Revok Abstain Phobia GBN Fuck . . . I'm Dead CSSO Groinchurn Galvin Wilhelm Miller Quartet That's all I can think of off the top of my head. |
_____________________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:18pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Repulsion, Gigantic Brain, that's all I can really think of. Oh, Pig Destroyer, Nasum, and Rotten Sound. Those are my personal faves, and you might also want early Napalm Death and Carcass. |
_____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:26pm - KeithMutiny ""] deep six, slap a ham, 625 thrash, and no idea records... you can pretty much start and end with those labels. |
_________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:29pm - McGore ""] PUS BAAAAAAAAGS |
____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:31pm - BornSoVile ""] Hideous Mangelious = severly underrated |
________________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:31pm - KillerKadoogan ""] Notorious D.U.G. said: The Kill YES!!! also, ID from New Hampshire are great. I think pretty much everything else has been said... |
____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:34pm - anonymous ""] benumb blows. |
____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:34pm - BornSoVile ""] World Downfall |
_____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:46pm - KeithMutiny ""] i see a lot of bands on this that are definatly not grind. |
________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:48pm - xericx ""] tomorrow's will was fucking sick! too bad they turned into a crappy band, now A trillian Barnicle lapse. |
_____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:53pm - KeithMutiny ""] [img] |
______________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:55pm - blue ""] who? |
_____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 5:59pm - KeithMutiny ""] it says raising kubrick, cant you read it? |
______________________________ [Sep 14,2005 6:24pm - blue ""] theyre not grind, der |
____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 6:39pm - BornSoVile ""] remember the time Dwyer called Watchmaker Death Metal! |
____________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 6:49pm - RichHorror ""] Watchmaker is all things to all people. |
________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 7:43pm - xmikex ""] Anal Sex Conga Line With RoboCop in the Back |
______________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 7:45pm - hunterhunter ""] its all country to me in the end |
__________________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 9:20pm - dwellingsickness ""] BornSoVile said:Hideous Mangelious = severly underrated Great band,Yes they are really underratted:NEWHORNS: |
__________________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 9:30pm - dwellingsickness ""] as far as grind goes..I been listening to lately....Fist Fuck,Cretin,He Who Corrupts, Herman Rarebell,Neuropathia,Obligatorisk Tortyr,Stump,Warscars,(new)Flesh Parade,Mesrine,Undinism |
_______________________________________ [Sep 14,2005 11:52pm - the rooster ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:!T.O.O.H.! - Bizarre Progressive Death / Grind Ab:Norm - Grind / Death Metal Abortion - Death / Crust / Grind Abuse (Can) - Brutal Death / Grind Adnauseam - Death Metal / Grind Agathocles - Mincecore / Grindcore Alienation Mental - Death Metal / Grind All Is Suffering - Death Metal / Grindcore Amoebic Dysentery - Sick Goregrind Anal Blast - Grindcore / Death Metal Anal Bleeding - Grind / Brutal Death Metal Anoxia - Death Metal / Grind Antigama - Death Metal / Grind Assück - Death Grind / Grindcore Autophagia - Goregrind Bile (Holland) - Brutal Deathgrind Biolich - Brutal Deathgrind Birdflesh - Death / Grindcore Bodies Lay Broken - Death / Grindcore Bowel Stew - Gore / Death / Grind Bowels Out - Death / Grind C.V.I. - Grindcore / Death Metal Captain Cleanoff - Grindcore Carnal Diafragma - Goregrind Catasexual Urge Motivation Death / Grind Cattle Decapitation - Death Metal / Goregrind Cephalectomy - Death Metal / Grind Cephalic Carnage - Technical Grind / Death Metal Cerebral Turbulency - Death Metal / Grindcore Christ Denied - Death Metal / Grind Cliteater - Brutal Death / Grind Clitorture - Grind / Sludge / Death / Black Metal Clotted Symmetric Sexual Organ - Grindcore Cock And Ball Torture - Pornogrind Commit Suicide - Brutal Deathgrind Consolation - Death Metal / Grind Contrastic - Death Metal / Grind Dahmer - Grind / Death Metal Damnable (Pol) - Brutal Death / Grind Dead Infection - Goregrind Death Reality - Brutal Death / Grind Debodified - Brutal Death / Grind Decomposing Serenity - Grindcore Deflorace - Grinding Death Metal Depression (Ger) - Death Metal / Grind Despised Icon - Grind / Death Metal Disassociate - Grindcore Disgorged Foetus - Goregrind Disharmonic Orchestra - Death / Grind Disordered - Death / Grindcore Dripping - Experimental Brutal Death / Grind Ectopia - Gore / Death / Grind Embalming Theatre - Death / Grind Excruciating Terror - Grind Metal Exit-13 - Grind Exposed Guts - Grind / Death Fermento - Death / Grind Fistfuck - Grindcore / Brutal Death Flesh Grinder - Pathologic Grindcore Fleshgore - Brutal Death / Grind Fornicator - Brutal Death / Grind Frightmare - Death / Grind Fuck... I'm Dead - Grindcore General Surgery - Death / Grind Genital Grinder - Death / Grind Greenfly - Death Metal / Grind Gruesome Stuff Relish - Death / Grind Haemorrhage - Death / Grindcore Hemdale - Grinding Death Hidden Pride - Death / Grind Hideous Mangleus - Death / Grindcore Holocausto Canibal - Death / Grind Horde of Worms - Black / Grind / Death Metal Human Remains - Death / Grind Hybrid Viscery - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Images of Violence - Brutal Death / Grind Impetigo - Death Metal / Gore Grind Inhume - Brutal Grind / Death Metal Intense Hammer Rage - Death / Goregrind Into The Gore - Brutal Death / Grind Isacaarum - Black / Death / Grind JonBenet Ramsey - Brutal Death / Grindcore Kadath - Brutal Death / Grind Kalibas - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Kutabare - Death / Grind Lust of Decay - Brutal Death / Grind Lymphatic Phlegm - Death / Goregrind Machetazo - Harsh Grind / Death Malignant Tumour - Death / Grindcore Manias - Brutal Death / Grind Mastic Scum - Brutal Death / Grindcore Maximum Perversion - Death / Grind Mesrine - Death / Grindcore Mincing Fury And Guttural Clamour of Queer Decay - Goregrind / Brutal Death Mindflair - Death / Grindcore Morbid Savouring - Brutal Death / Goregrind Myopia - Deathgrind Naked Whipper - Black / Grind Negligent Collateral Collapse - Death / Grindcore Neuraxis - Tech / Death / Grind Neuro-Visceral Exhumation - Death / Goregrind Nuclear Death - Grindcore / Death Metal Nyctophobic - Death / Grind Obliterate - Death Metal / Grindcore Organ Harvest - Brutal Death Grind Oxidised Razor - Death / Grindgore Pakeni - Grind / Death Metal Papercut Homicide - Technical Death / Grind Pathologist - Grind / Death / Gore Patologicum - Brutal Death Metal / Goregrind Psyopus - Death / Grind Reinfection - Brutal Deathgrind Repulsion - Grindcore / Death Righteous Pigs - Death / Thrash / Grind Rotten Minds - Brutal Death / Grind Sanitys Dawn - Death / Goregrind Screaming Afterbirth - Brutal Death / Grindcore Skeleton of God - Death / Grind Splatterhouse - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Squash Bowels - Death / Goregrind Stabwound - Brutal Goregrind Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition - Brutal Hyperspeed Death / Goregrind Sulaco - Death Metal/ Grindcore Suppository - Death Metal / Grind Terminally, Your Aborted Ghost - Brutal Death / Grindcore The County Medical Examiners - Death / Goregrind The Day Everything Became Nothing - Death / Grind Thorazine - Thrash / Death / Grind Torsofuck - Brutal Death / Grind Traumatism - Brutal Death/Grind Tu Carne - Extreme Grindgore Uphill Battle - Grinding Death Metal Utopie - Brutal Goregrind Vaginal Carnage - Goregrind Watchmaker - Extreme Death / Grind Whore - Death / Grind WTN - Death / Grind Xysma - Death / Grind Zombified Preachers Of Gore - Death Metal / Grindcore Zubrowska - Brutal Death Metal / Grindcore Zuckuss - Death / Grindcore dude, way to just list your whole distro. haha. |