[Book] Eating Animals[views:11525][posts:137]_____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:25am - the_reverend ""] http://www.eatinganimals.com/ |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:35am - martins ""] Buy meat from local farmers who feed their animals what they were meant to eat if it's such a problem |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:44am - the_reverend ""] bzzzt. That doesn't matter since you can feed 15 people off the land to feed one on chicken. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:46am - arilliusbm ""] I had incredible steak tips last night. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:52am - the_reverend ""] but could you meet the meat before hand? |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:53am - martins ""] the_reverend said:bzzzt. That doesn't matter since you can feed 15 people off the land to feed one on chicken. Hahaha If you want to feed 15 people carbohydrates, incomplete proteins, egregious levels of omega 6, phylates, and lectins. I prefer to keep my macro- and micro-nutrient levels in balance. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:54am - arilliusbm ""] It's the circle of life. Humans are on the top of the food chain. You're just in denial. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:54am - martins ""] the_reverend said:but could you meet the meat before hand? I went out to Barre, MA a few weeks ago to buy some grassfed meat from this one-man farm. We saw his lands, saw some of his cows and equipment, and bought some fucking tasty meat for a reasonable price. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:55am - the_reverend ""] arilliusbm said:It's the circle of life. Humans are on the top of the food chain. You're just in denial. I would like a tasty meatball like you to go to africa and think that. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:56am - martins ""] You can't compare socio-economic standing to special standing. Poverty almost always leads to malnutrition and, in the US, obesity. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:57am - arktouros ""] Driving 10 minutes from Worcester to Barre is like crossing 8 state lines. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:58am - the_reverend ""] I was talking about lions martins. Lions would have a big problem with us thinking we were #1. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:59am - martins ""] arktouros said:Driving 10 minutes from Worcester to Barre is like crossing 8 state lines. Yeah, place ruled though and the farmer we met was the fucking man. He would break into a Scottish accent in the middle of sentences. Plus, he fucking raises cattle TO EAT THEM. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:00am - martins ""] the_reverend said:I was talking about lions martins. Lions would have a big problem with us thinking we were #1. Lions can suck my dick. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:00am - arilliusbm ""] lol, perhaps you should read more about poaching. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:05am - largefreakatzero ""] Regardless of the fact that they are an impressive predator, lions die when you shoot them. To each his own, but I really don't believe that a vegan diet is nutritious - especially from a protein standpoint. Some of my most enjoyable meals were from birds that I shot and wrang their necks, and filleted the meat off their breast. Compassion is for pussies, smart conservation is where it's at. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:05am - Doomkid ""] the_reverend said:I was talking about lions martins. Lions would have a big problem with us thinking we were #1. Except that we have the special evolutionary advantage of symbolic language and thus technology. So lions go RAWR and we go bang. Everyone go check out these guys and gals. Aside from their caveman diet, I really like the ideas about exercise being modeled of the way kids play. I want a giant adult playground that I can scramble and jump around on. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:07am - arilliusbm ""] There is no question that grassfed animals and other naturally raised animals are better tasting and "morally" better. But I don't care about that shit when I'm hungry and the supermarket is closer than my local butcher. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:08am - martins ""] Oh ya, I forgot about John Durant and that recent NYTimes article and Colbert Report interview. That's basically what I do but I'm not as strict with the dairy. It's just eating real food and working out to create a balanced body structure. Been doing it for almost 6 months now. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:09am - martins ""] arilliusbm said:There is no question that grassfed animals and other naturally raised animals are better tasting and "morally" better. But I don't care about that shit when I'm hungry and the supermarket is closer than my local butcher. For me the moral part is kind of a bonus. I eat grassfed because the animals have a proper ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 (about 1:1) and because they are more nutritious over all. More Vitamin D etc etc. When I do buy storebought meat, I take an omega-3 supp to make up for the omega-6s. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:17am - Doomkid ""] I don't know what your area is like martins, but if you live in an urban area and want to run around but feel like you're in bare feet I suggest Vibram 5 Fingers. They look kinda hokey but I got a pair last fall and they're great for running on everything up to hard gravel and asphalt. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:19am - martins ""] I don't like Vibrams. Tried a pair on a few weeks ago and it's too weird. I've been wearing Feelmax Pankas for over a month now though. They're another company that makes barefoot shoes but they look more like shoes. Really cool stuff and I notice a huge difference in my gait, foot, and leg strength. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:21am - Doomkid ""] They have barefoot boots too? No way. I need to see if they retail anywhere around here. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:22am - martins ""] You can order from Amazon too though the sizes differ slightly from Vibram. I'm a 43 for Feelmax but somewhere between a 42 and a 43 for Vibram. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:24am - slarmageddon ""] martins said: the_reverend said:I was talking about lions martins. Lions would have a big problem with us thinking we were #1. Lions Lions can suck my dick. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:26am - martins ""] 200% agree |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:30am - arilliusbm ""] lol you buy organic shoes too? |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:31am - Doomkid ""] They're not organic, they just feel like you're not wearing anything on your feet. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:32am - martins ""] I don't think they're organic. The soles are still rubber just really thin and really flexible. I can feel the ground underfoot and shit, it just doesn't hurt me if I step on glass or something. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:33am - the_reverend ""] largefreakatzero said:Regardless of the fact that they are an impressive predator, lions die when you shoot them.The same can be said about people... and a paradox. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:36am - the_reverend ""] I like that the born to run and eating animals threads have crossed streams. I wanted to get a set of vibrams since I started running barefoot in the fall, but they look QUEER ARE FUCK and are $80. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:40am - martins ""] Feelmax. You can find them for about 60-70. Still don't condone long-distance running. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:42am - the_reverend ""] I started running down railroad tracks and downtown barefoot, but i find you have to avoid too many things since you are barefoot, but it just feels better. I'm only looking to run 2-3 miles. |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:43am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Doomkid said:They're not organic, they just feel like you're not wearing anything on your feet. That sounds fucking horrible...then again I have flat feet, so I'm always feeling horrible. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:44am - martins ""] You have flat feet because of shoes. It's a shitty cycle. I never had flat feet but since wearing barefoot shoes, my arch is even higher and stronger. |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:46am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I have flat feet because I was born with shitty feet and shoes made them shittier. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:46am - arilliusbm ""] LOL Does it matter? |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:46am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Nothing matters. Only pain. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:47am - martins ""] I don't know. I had pretty persistent lower back pain before and since going barefoot, it's all gone. |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:49am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Yeah but you never had flat feet, so fuck you. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:50am - the_reverend ""] weird, too bad there isn't a book about that martins. I should write it and call it born to um.. soemthing. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:51am - arilliusbm ""] Well there ya go. Everyone's physique is different. I've had flat feet since I was born but they never bothered me when I played sports. You're not supposed to run flat-footed anyway. It ain't the shoes. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:52am - martins ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:Yeah but you never had flat feet, so fuck you. Doesn't change the fact that it's fixable. |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:58am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I'm too lazy to read all of that. I'd rather sit on my ass all day and complain. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:00am - martins ""] You're still a vegetarian right? What made you do that? More curious than anything else. I make fun of my other vegetarian friend but that's because he's a douchebag. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:01am - arilliusbm ""] Lies. Cloud eats meat. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:01am - martins ""] arilliusbm said:Lies. Cloud eats meat. ? Oh... Your jokes just get funnier with time. Like a fine wine. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:02am - arilliusbm ""] ¿ |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:07am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] I went vegetarian for a few reasons: first I stopped liking the taste of most meat, followed by the way it made me feel, and of course leading to the lack of desire to eat meat, all accompanying my disgust towards factory farms. I personally couldn't bring myself to kill an animal either, unless it was for the sole reason of survival so I decided it was best for me to pursue a vegetarian lifestyle. For the record, I will never go vegan. I like dairy and eggs waaaay too much. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:10am - martins ""] Oh well, more meat for me! |