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Needs moar NFL draft talk

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[Apr 7,2010 8:21pm - Dankill  ""]
Still waiting for Mike and Rusty's latest updates. I saw this draft board today on FOX Sports and I don't hate the Pats projected picks.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-mock-draft-version-5?Gt1=39002

#22 Sergio Kindle, DE/LB, Texas
#44. Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
#47. Dexter McCluster, RB, Ole Miss
#53. Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU

I just question if Hughes would fall that far and I'd rather they go after either Arrelious Benn or Damian Williams at WR then a running back.
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[Apr 7,2010 9:55pm - xmikex ""]
The Pats will not take Sergio Kindle. I'm putting that out there right now. He's Vernon Gholston part 2: big on athletics small on football skills. I think word is finally out on the dude, and a lot of the mocks I've seen lately have him going in the 2nd. There are just way too many players with more polished skill sets available at 22 for the Pats to take him there.

Gronkowski with the 44th overall? When the hell did tight end become this must have position for everyone? I realize the Pats really need a tight end, and I realize they drafted high on Ben Watson. But for Christs sake, neither Gronkowski or Gresham played a single down in 2009 and neither one of them could block to save their life when they were playing. WR is a bigger need at 44, IMO.

I like McCluster as a 3rd down Kevin Faulk type of player, but I think there are too many needs to address in the first 4 picks to take a running back. If they took him at 47 or 53 I wouldn't complain, but I think he's going off the board early in the 2nd because of the great pro day he had. Then whoever drafts him can remember that he's the size of Martin Gramatica.

Jerry Hughes available at 53? Only Fox Sports would come up with that projection.
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[Apr 7,2010 10:04pm - xmikex ""]
But for the sake of saying something productive instead of proving Fox Sports wrong (like THAT's ever been a challenge) I'll list a tentative top 4

22. Jared Odrick DT Penn State
44. Damian Williams WR USC
47. Jason Worilds OLB Virginia Tech / or Kareem Jackson CB Alabama or if you really want a running back take Javid Best who may still be on the board.
53. TYSON ALUALU DT/DE Cal (I'm huge on this guy) or Alex Carrington DE (could be a true 3-4 DE) Arizona State

Alualu or Carrington is a win win either way. They're both great candidates to put some mean back in the D-Line. I'm perfectly fine with sitting until the 4th to take a TE and getting a guy like Tony Moeaki from Iowa, and not another 1 dimensional Ben Watson clone.
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[Apr 7,2010 10:08pm - xmikex ""]
The stupidest mock I've seen yet had the Patriots trading up to the #8 spot to take Rolondo McClain. Actually that's tied with every mock that has the Pats taking Tim Tebow.
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[Apr 7,2010 10:33pm - Murph ""]
ITT: mike jerks himself off with...himself.

AMERICAN SPORTZ LETS HUDDLE 4TH DOWN GOAL LINE TOUCHDOWN MILLER TIME FOAM FINGER JESUS COIN TOSS SHOULDER PADS MEN.

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[Apr 7,2010 10:50pm - RustyPS ""]

xmikex said:The Pats will not take Sergio Kindle. I'm putting that out there right now. He's Vernon Gholston part 2: big on athletics small on football skills. I think word is finally out on the dude, and a lot of the mocks I've seen lately have him going in the 2nd. There are just way too many players with more polished skill sets available at 22 for the Pats to take him there.


THANK YOU! dude's soft as shit...once he's blocked, he's out of the play...has fantastic speed, but once someone puts a hand on him, he disappears


bennyhillifier

Brandon Graham has grown on me by leaps and bounds, but he's grown on the analysts too, meaning he probably won't be at #22

Damian Williams is the guy I want the most...I'll be disappointed if the Pats pass on him

other guys I'm big on: Ryan Mathews (although I doubt they take him), Jared Odrick, Golden Tate, Alex Carrington, Tyson Alualu, Sean Weatherspoon (other guy that's probably gone by #22, and he's more of an ILB in a 3-4), Thaddeus Gibson, Jerry Hughes, Demaryius Thomas (who will fall because Georgia Tech had an option offense meaning he is not a polished guy at all), Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (projected 3rd round guy, and at the moment, they don't have a 3rd round pick)

other guys I would avoid like the plague like Kindle: Carlos Dunlap, Jason Pierre-Paul, Everson Griffen, TIM TEBOW, Anthony Davis, Arrelious Benn (the next coming of Braylon Edwards)
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[Apr 7,2010 10:52pm - RustyPS ""]
plus, I've been hearing rumblings that Dan Williams could fall, which is intriguing
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[Apr 7,2010 11:30pm - xmikex ""]

Murph said:ITT: mike jerks himself off with...himself.

AMERICAN SPORTZ LETS HUDDLE 4TH DOWN GOAL LINE TOUCHDOWN MILLER TIME FOAM FINGER JESUS COIN TOSS SHOULDER PADS MEN.




We go live to the floor of the MLS draft

With the 14th overall pick Stagnone Dry Cleaning selects... oh shit is that a black guy? Shit, yeah we'll take the black guy!
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[Apr 7,2010 11:45pm - Dankill  ""]

xmikex said:The stupidest mock I've seen yet had the Patriots trading up to the #8 spot to take Rolondo McClain. Actually that's tied with every mock that has the Pats taking Tim Tebow.

THANK YOU! I blame sports talk radio for putting that friggin idea in people's heads. All the time Tebow has spend out here with the Pats is nothing but a smokescreen for Bill's homie Urban Mayers.

I like Hughes but yeah, the dude ain't gonna drop THAT far down. Jared Odrick is the one I think they'll take first if he falls to #22 A lot of drafts have them taking Jermain Gresham but I don't think they'll go that high for a TE again. To me, that's why a guy like Gronkwski or Arron Hernendez late in the second wouldn't be the craziest idea. Although if the Pats think they can find a fitting sleeper TE in the later rounds, Mike, I'd agree and say focus on LB, DE and WR and that's it!
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[Apr 8,2010 12:06am - Murph ""]

xmikex said:
Murph said:ITT: mike jerks himself off with...himself.

AMERICAN SPORTZ LETS HUDDLE 4TH DOWN GOAL LINE TOUCHDOWN MILLER TIME FOAM FINGER JESUS COIN TOSS SHOULDER PADS MEN.




We go live to the floor of the MLS draft

With the 14th overall pick Stagnone Dry Cleaning selects... oh shit is that a black guy? Shit, yeah we'll take the black guy!



MLS isn't soccer. It's what happens when failed college athletes and the unemployed line cooks at Taco Bell decide to party.

Si.
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[Apr 8,2010 10:56am - xmikex ""]
The more I watch footage of Brandon Graham, and the more I watch footage of the other pass rush specialists at the top of the draft the more I get nervous that the Pats will miss out on Graham and end up with Ricky Sapp.

Graham is head and shoulders above just about every pass rush prospect in the draft, and the guy tackles like a freight train. I'd take him over Odrick even if he falls that far in the 1st. My only concern is that he played more of a 5 technique end at Michigan and everyone seems convinced he can just make the move to OLB in a 3-4... when no one has ever seen him cover anybody.
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[Apr 8,2010 10:57am - xmikex ""]
oh and just an interesting chart of Patriot mock draft predictions:

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=generalnewsdetail&pid=41762
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[Apr 8,2010 10:58am - reimroc ""]
Rusty on CCSN? More likely than you think.
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[Apr 8,2010 11:02am - xmikex ""]
If Rusty and I had our own show on NESN I think half the sports journalism community in New England would pack it up and find careers in real estate.
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[Apr 8,2010 11:04am - reimroc ""]
would be awesome
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[Apr 8,2010 11:07am - martins nli  ""]
moar faggoty football riffs please?
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[Apr 8,2010 11:16am - RustyPS ""]

xmikex said:If Rusty and I had our own show on NESN I think half the sports journalism community in New England would pack it up and find careers in real estate.
Shaughnessy, Borges, Felger, Mazz, Butchy, Buckley, LJ, and Mustard, plz?
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[Apr 8,2010 11:22am - xmikex ""]
Sterns can stay. The rest can get me fries with my bacon classic.
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[Apr 8,2010 11:24am - DreadKill ""]
this just in: 98.5 the sports hub fires felger and maz and replaces them with "Football Riffs," hosted by xmikex and rustyPS.
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[Apr 8,2010 11:25am - DreadKill ""]

RustyPS said:
xmikex said:If Rusty and I had our own show on NESN I think half the sports journalism community in New England would pack it up and find careers in real estate.
Shaughnessy, Borges, Felger, Mazz, Butchy, Buckley, LJ, and Mustard, plz?

i'd love to never have to see curly-haired boyfriend's ugly mug again.
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[Apr 8,2010 11:34am - RustyPS ""]

DreadKill said:this just in: 98.5 the sports hub fires felger and maz and replaces them with "Football Riffs," hosted by xmikex and rustyPS.
LOVE IT
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[Apr 8,2010 5:47pm - xmikex ""]
Corny radio promo voice: "You're tuned in to 98.5 with Mike and Rusty R-R-R-R-RUSSSSTYYY and M-M-M-MIIIIKE on the one and only Sports Hub 98.5 FM BOSSSTOOONNNN"
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[Apr 8,2010 5:59pm - RustyPS ""]
you mean like Dingo and the Baby?

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[Apr 8,2010 6:12pm - GUY ""]
Draft tebow or your a pussy

DO IT, YOU WONT
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[Apr 8,2010 7:08pm - RustyPS ""]
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england...4677032/patriots-host-wr-dez-bryant


I highly doubt Dez Bryant falls beyond the Seahawks' second 1st rounder @ #14....but I'm not gonna lie, I would be very happy being able to take him at #22, even if he is a "diva"
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[Apr 8,2010 7:20pm - Dankill  ""]

RustyPS said:
DreadKill said:this just in: 98.5 the sports hub fires felger and maz and replaces them with "Football Riffs," hosted by xmikex and rustyPS.
LOVE IT

The music clips won't suck, that's for sure. More worthwhile information, more lulz, mores riffs and less asskissery/total lack of pop culture references.
"What is that? I don't get it! B-Real! What's going on?!"
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[Apr 8,2010 9:50pm - xmikex ""]
I haven't been following Bryant a ton only because I didn't really think the Pats would be looking at him. But the guy is the real deal, and from what I understand a lot of his "character concerns" have been really vague. And nothing he's done thus far has been on par with the Crabtree spectacle from last year.
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[Apr 8,2010 11:04pm - RustyPS ""]
well the reason he got suspended by the NCAA was because he lied to them about his relationship with Deion Sanders, even though the reality of it was it was nothing more than Sanders mentoring the guy...NCAA was investigating Sanders being his agent while still being in college

NCAA: Fuck the Russians, We're The Real Commies
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[Apr 12,2010 1:28pm - DreadKill ""]
i'd like to see the pats get arrelious benn so he can catch TDs and instead of doing a dance, he can do a ritual about it, faggot.
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[Apr 13,2010 10:29am - RustyPS ""]
NFL.com is doing their Predict the Pick again: http://challengegames.nfl.com/predictpick

AND draftdebacled.com is doing a pick contest too....free to enter, $350 grand prize: http://draftdebacled.com/MockContest.aspx
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[Apr 13,2010 12:39pm - xmikex ""]
Patriots scouts will be visiting with Dexter McCluster on Wednesday and... "The versatile running back said the Patriots talked to him about a slot receiver-like role at the combine."



Woooah.
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[Apr 13,2010 12:42pm - RustyPS ""]
awesome.....I really like McCluster
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[Apr 13,2010 12:43pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
I am now officially scared of the NY Jets
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[Apr 13,2010 12:48pm - RustyPS ""]
considering the Jets draft history, coupled with Holmes being out for the first month of the season, LT being a glorified goal line back, and Cromartie's lack of being able to spell his own name.....I'm not

they may have made all these moves, but look at the Redskins, they make crazy moves almost every offseason and where does that get them?
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[Apr 13,2010 12:59pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
just saying the east isn't really a crazy overpowering division like it's made out to be. the jets are the only team that scares me in there. dolphins and bills are a joke, pats havent made any big moves yet so yuh jets look scary so far khed.
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[Apr 13,2010 1:04pm - RustyPS ""]
I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves
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[Apr 13,2010 1:37pm - xmikex ""]

RustyPS said:I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves



NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! BRADY IS DONE!! SIGN JEFF GEORGE NAO!!!!!!! DARIUS BUTLER DIDN'T MAKE THE PRO BOWL IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!! HE'S A BUSST!!! TRADE HIM FOR A 7TH ROUND PICK AND SIGN TYRONE POOLE!!!!
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[Apr 13,2010 1:42pm - DreadKill ""]

RustyPS said:awesome.....I really like McCluster
i want them to get him and sign dexter mccleon so fans will be confused and brady can pick on mccleon every day in practice and make him relive the rams' super bowl loss over and over again.
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[Apr 13,2010 1:46pm - DreadKill ""]

xmikex said:
RustyPS said:I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves



NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! BRADY IS DONE!! SIGN JEFF GEORGE NAO!!!!!!! DARIUS BUTLER DIDN'T MAKE THE PRO BOWL IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!! HE'S A BUSST!!! TRADE HIM FOR A 7TH ROUND PICK AND SIGN TYRONE POOLE!!!!

that's a spot-on impersonation of all the dumb sports fans in the northeast. it could pretty much be any sports fan in boston, ny, or philly (if you switch out the players for ny or philly players).
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[Apr 13,2010 3:44pm - SkinSandwich ""]
This just in!! tom brady rapes college douche, says she doesn't mind! More at 11.
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[Apr 13,2010 5:51pm - RustyPS ""]
this guy?
[img]

what a pussy
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[Apr 13,2010 8:55pm - Dankill  ""]

DreadKill said:
xmikex said:
RustyPS said:I will agree that the Jets are the only other East team that's formidable....but people need to relax

this is a different offseason than we're all used to seeing....after the draft, teams are gonna start cleaning house to make sure that they comply with whatever is decided on under the new CBA...when that happens, I expect the Pats to make some major moves



NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! BRADY IS DONE!! SIGN JEFF GEORGE NAO!!!!!!! DARIUS BUTLER DIDN'T MAKE THE PRO BOWL IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!! HE'S A BUSST!!! TRADE HIM FOR A 7TH ROUND PICK AND SIGN TYRONE POOLE!!!!

that's a spot-on impersonation of all the dumb sports fans in the northeast. it could pretty much be any sports fan in boston, ny, or philly (if you switch out the players for ny or philly players).

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[Apr 13,2010 9:45pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
whatever Jets still scare me.
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[Apr 13,2010 9:48pm - xmikex ""]
They would. Nancy boy.
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[Apr 13,2010 9:53pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
you're just plain awful.
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[Apr 13,2010 10:45pm - xmikex ""]

RustyPS said:this guy?
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what a pussy



Kraft probably thought he was an alcoholic and insisted Belichick take him.
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[Apr 14,2010 8:35am - RustyPS ""]
ok Brandon Marshall to the Phins for this year's and next year's 2nd rounders


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[Apr 14,2010 8:43am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
yuh whatevers they still aren't a threat to me.
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[Apr 14,2010 9:47am - xmikex ""]
Chad Henne still sucks, but here's what should worry the rest of the AFC East...

Johnathan Wilhite, Cromartie, Revis, Shaun Springs, Most of the Bills secondary... none of those guys can tackle worth shiiiiiiiiiiiit. If Henne can get the ball to Marshall even on a check route matched up against the right guys that's an extra 20 in YAC right there.

Look at the top 10 guys in yards after the catch in 2009 and notice how many of them are WR's. There are only 2 WR's in the top 5 and Marshall is one of them. The guy has the ability to turn into Jim Brown in the open field when dudes start trying to shoulder check him.

I'd like to say he's a crappy fit for the run-first homo wildcat offense the Dolphins use, but it's tough to say. They haven't had a real receiver in forever. They could be really dangerous... for about 4 weeks and then Ronnie Brown will be hurt, Ricky Williams will be hurt, Pat White will still manage 8 snaps for the whole season, and whatever team picks up Joey Porter will have to deal with him giving Chad Henne a concussion.
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[Apr 14,2010 9:59am - RustyPS ""]
don't the Cards have Porter now?

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