The future of fucking metal[views:2463][posts:34]________________________________________ [Mar 4,2009 5:00pm - Conservationist ""] This is the kind of future of metal I can really dig -- guitar-intensive songs using the classical style of narrative composition, but with the pure balls of metal: * Metallica - Orion * Burzum - My Journey to the Stars * Metallica - Call of Ktulu * Asphyx - Depths of Eternity * Dismember - Override of the Overtures * Atheist - An Incarnation's Dream * Therion - The Way * Hellhammer - Triumph of Death * Enslaved - Norvegr * Rigor Mortis - Six Feet Under http://www.anus.com/metal/about/metal/assimilation/ I wish more bands made material like this. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 4,2009 5:06pm - narkybark ""] Isn't this more the past of fucking metal? |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 4,2009 5:10pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I just want to hear more about this "fucking" you speak of. (Orion is probably the single most perfect song ever written, performed, or heard by humans, ever, BTW.) |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 4,2009 5:14pm - goatcatalyst ""] Shemhemforash, nigger! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 4,2009 5:17pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Meshuggah or GTFO |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 4,2009 5:25pm - Bob Barker ""] he must have meant the past of metals |
| ________________________________ [Mar 4,2009 6:23pm - reimroc ""] Atheist - An Incarnation's Dream gives me boners all the time |
| _____________________________ [Mar 5,2009 7:24am - Yeti ""] Conservationist said:* Burzum - My Journey to the Stars this is one of the greatest songs ever recorded. there aren't many songs that make me want to snap my neck as hard as this one. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 10:51am - Beorht-Dana ""] Conservationist said: * Enslaved - Norvegr A great song, but they've produced a lot of music that is a lot better than this since then. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 10:53am - darkwor ""] i've been listening to vertebre like it's my job lately |
| _______________________________ [Mar 5,2009 11:29am - sever ""] FuckIsMySignature said:Meshuggah or GTFO QFT. Western music has been explored melodically to every end. Rhythm and metrics are the new territories to explore. The "future" of music exists where we chose to innovate - not where we draw on classical influences. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:05pm - Conservationist ""] sever said:Western music has been explored melodically to every end. I think that the type of thinking you propose is backward. Music is not discoveries of certain musical properties. That's like saying that language is discovering a unique way to use a verb. Music is a language, used to express ideas, like a kind of poetry. There are more melodies to be written, and they should use technique as appropriate for that expression, not the other way around. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:05pm - arilliusbm ""] I agree with the classical style of narrative composition comment. Moar please. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:08pm - Martins ""] Conservationist said: sever said:Western music has been explored melodically to every end. I think that the type of thinking you propose is backward. Music is not discoveries of certain musical properties. That's like saying that language is discovering a unique way to use a verb. Music is a language, used to express ideas, like a kind of poetry. There are more melodies to be written, and they should use technique as appropriate for that expression, not the other way around. Quoted for truth and beauty. <3 |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:10pm - arilliusbm ""] Moar bands need to emphasize emotion in their composition as well. I view/hear music as colors and emotions, and sometimes I don't get anything but grey and emotionless shit. Hearing music as color ftw. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:12pm - sacreligion ""] I heard a rumor that Limp Bizkit is getting back together. Future of metal right there. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:21pm - goatcatalyst ""] I'd quote what Aril said but I'm on RTTP text and, well... I can't. Colors. FTW indeed. And not just black. Textures, too. Scott Walker's "The Drift" should be mandatory listening. But alas, my despotic kingdom is yet to arise. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:27pm - brian_dc ""] goatcatalyst said:I'd quote what Aril said but I'm on RTTP text and, well... I can't. Colors. FTW indeed. And not just black. Textures, too. Scott Walker's "The Drift" should be mandatory listening. But alas, my despotic kingdom is yet to arise. I'm doing what you can't because I fellate wevwund. I can't believe someone just mentioned that Scott Walker album on here. That guy is amazing. I can't tell if he's mocking everyone who might listen or not. But either way he's a genius. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:33pm - goatcatalyst ""] Scott Walker is like a secret handshake. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:44pm - Yeti ""] arilliusbm said:I view/hear music as colors and emotions, and sometimes I don't get anything but grey and emotionless shit. Hearing music as color ftw. i 10000000% agree. that's why i love music while tripping, you can see the sound. the artist Kristian Wåhlin is really good at capturing an audio emotion through painting. the In the Nightside Eclipse and Storm of the Light's Bane album covers depict the music so well. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:55pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Classical, backed, etc. Meshuggah is interesting as a math problem, but I don't get a charge from it. "Cold and emotionless" is a totally valid style of expression, they just haven't managed to pull it off, per se. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 5,2009 12:58pm - Yeti ""] i fucking love Meshuggah, but they are one of those bands that has fans who think they somehow understand music better than anyone else because they like them. i just love listening to them and hearing the rhythms. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 1:15pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I'd probably get a stiffy from it if I was a drummer. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 1:16pm - reimroc ""] DestroyYouAlot said:I'd probably get a stiffy from it if I was a drummer. gives me a stiffy |
| ______________________________ [Mar 5,2009 1:25pm - sever ""] I never claimed to understand anything better than anyone else. Music is a language only on the surface. One does not learn to "speak" music casually to communicate ideas. Music is an artform that extends beyond the boundaries language, just as poetry does. It's not so much that one is trying to find new and unique ways of creating music, but rather trying to find more efficient and effective ways of communicating musically. The future of an art is in its ability to adapt to an ever-changing social climate to suit the needs and expressions of the artists. All I'm saying is that, in my opinion, focusing simply on classical western music theory as inspiration for the "future" of metal will yield limited, boring, results. The same techniques and theories can only be used so many times before its application to a specific idea is worn out. What Meshuggah is doing is something fresh, that few other bands have bothered to try. Why not use the distorted, twangy properties of heavy metal guitars to suit a rhythmic purpose? When everyone else focuses on melodic progressions, why not focus more on rhythmic progression as a means of propelling a song forward? |
| _____________________________ [Mar 5,2009 1:28pm - Yeti ""] sever said:I never claimed to understand anything better than anyone else. that wasn't directed at you, i was just stating it. not everyone is like that, kind of like Tool fans. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 5,2009 1:30pm - sever ""] yeah, I hear you. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 1:31pm - sacreligion ""] Oh but I woo... |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 3:28pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] For exploring rhythmic weirdness, I'd take Botch or even old Dillinger over 'Shuggah, any day. |
| _____________________________ [Mar 5,2009 3:35pm - Yeti ""] i shudder at the thought of Dillinger. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 3:36pm - reimroc ""] Yeti said:i shudder at the thought of Dillinger. Who wouldn't? Hes a wanted criminal. [img] |
| _____________________________ [Mar 5,2009 3:38pm - Yeti ""] i guess the Dillinger Escape Plan didn't work out so well. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2009 3:41pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] If you'd read the Illuminatus trilogy you wouldn't fnord think so. |
| _____________________________ [Mar 6,2009 7:25am - Yeti ""] DestroyYouAlot said:you wouldn't fnord think so. i cannot figure out what this was supposed to say. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 6,2009 9:16am - DestroyYouAlot ""] O RLY? |