[Book] Eating Animals[views:11524][posts:137]_____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:12am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Correct. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:21am - martins ""] Awesome. Making Lamb Heart later this week and having an antelope shoulder roast this weekend. If only Hoser could see me now. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:29am - the_reverend ""] is there a cure for dick curve? |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:32am - martins ""] Yes. Barefoot condoms. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:41am - Conservationist ""] the_reverend said:bzzzt. That doesn't matter since you can feed 15 people off the land to feed one on chicken. And if we expand population fifteenfold, and reduce animal habitats that much more, how long before all the animals are extinct? |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 1:31pm - martins ""] Yeah, it's almost as if Rev doesn't realize what natural fertilizers are made of LOL Read "The Vegetarian Myth" by Lierre Keith, ya'll Breatharians |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 1:37pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] martins said: the_reverend said:bzzzt. That doesn't matter since you can feed 15 people off the land to feed one on chicken. Hahaha If you want to feed 15 people carbohydrates, incomplete proteins, egregious levels of omega 6, phylates, and lectins. I prefer to keep my macro- and micro-nutrient levels in balance. Hey, what do you think those animals WE eat are eating? We are tertiary eaters: Everything we eat has eaten something else. If a cattle eats pesticide cud, and you eat a steak, then you just ate a whole bucket full of creature that's brimming with poison. Do some reading. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 1:41pm - arilliusbm ""] Who cares? Tastes good. I eat insects. They are high in protein. I don't care if they thrive around shit. I'll eat that too. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 1:49pm - Archaeon ""] I'm shooting on becoming a vegetarian this summer. I would start now but I'm trying to gain weight and that's probably the worst idea. I don't want to eat meat because I'm fagcore and suck. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 1:58pm - reimroc ""] I really don't care about what some vegan thinks about me or any other human being that does what humans as animals do, EAT MEAT. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 2:07pm - arilliusbm ""] Martins needs to post a before and after pic. Somethings I expect to see in the after pic: -arched foot -smaller gut -haircut -an snes in the background instead of emulating -a girl somewhere in the photo -a muscle slam band shirt -the original Sydofex lineup in the background |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 2:17pm - TheRidersofDoom ""] I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain so I could eat at the bottom!!! |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 2:25pm - Doomkid ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said: Hey, what do you think those animals WE eat are eating? We are tertiary eaters: Everything we eat has eaten something else. If a cattle eats pesticide cud, and you eat a steak, then you just ate a whole bucket full of creature that's brimming with poison. Do some reading. I agree that eating meat from unknown sources is a relatively roulette-esque activity. However feeding animals that normally would eat grasses and grains in the wild more refined versions of those (ie: domesticated crops) does not pose a problem. Concentration of biomass can and does lead to problems with pesticides, mercury and other fun things but that doesn't make it inherently bad. Nothing inherently bad with vegetarianism/veganism either. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:03pm - martins ""] Archaeon said:I'm shooting on becoming a vegetarian this summer. I would start now but I'm trying to gain weight and that's probably the worst idea. I don't want to eat meat because I'm fagcore and suck. Talk to me before you do that please. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:03pm - arilliusbm ""] before and after pics plz |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:07pm - martins ""] Doomkid said: the_taste_of_cigarettes said: Hey, what do you think those animals WE eat are eating? We are tertiary eaters: Everything we eat has eaten something else. If a cattle eats pesticide cud, and you eat a steak, then you just ate a whole bucket full of creature that's brimming with poison. Do some reading. I agree that eating meat from unknown sources is a relatively roulette-esque activity. However feeding animals that normally would eat grasses and grains in the wild more refined versions of those (ie: domesticated crops) does not pose a problem. Concentration of biomass can and does lead to problems with pesticides, mercury and other fun things but that doesn't make it inherently bad. Nothing inherently bad with vegetarianism/veganism either. @ToC I have done the reading and the watching. Take a gander at Food Inc. Great documentary. I told you that I eat grass fed as often as possible. Grass fed is, by nature, organic and antibiotic free and usually processed at small family run processing plants (Caledoina farms, the place where I bought my grass-fed steak, processes their steaks at a very small family-run processor). I'm quite aware that the food industry is a disgusting mess but that doesn't mean you don't have a choice in how healthy you want to be. It just has to be a priority... or not. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:10pm - martins ""] arilliusbm said:before and after pics plz Don't have a very accurate before picture. Worst one is ten pounds lighter than I was at my heaviest. But I've lost 40 pounds since starting in late September 2009. I'm in the best shape of my life so far (which isn't saying much really) and I haven't been sick since starting (despite people around me having been sick multiple times). I can post an after pic but there isn't really an after. I plan to eat like this for the rest of my life. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:14pm - arilliusbm ""] You almost sound like a born again Christian except food is your new religion. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:17pm - martins ""] Maybe except that I don't really care how you eat. I just like to educate. Except that I made everything up. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:20pm - arilliusbm ""] What about when you're raising a family? Are you going to stay away from processed baby food, etc? My problem with eating healthy is that it's so fucking expensive. I don't like spending more than 70 bucks at a food store. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 3:25pm - martins ""] I don't spend more than about 70 dollars a week on food. Usually closer to 50. I also only eat once a day so that cuts on costs too. Eggs + meat + broccoli + brussel sprouts is my favorite dinner. And yes, I plan to raise a healthy family. If I ever meet a dude who would want to adopt a Filipino boy with me. I mean uh... |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 4:03pm - the_reverend ""] TheRidersofDoom said:I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain so I could eat at the bottom!!!you didn't claw anything. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 4:28pm - largefreakatzero ""] martins said:I don't spend more than about 70 dollars a week on food. Usually closer to 50. I also only eat once a day so that cuts on costs too. Eggs + meat + broccoli + brussel sprouts is my favorite dinner. And yes, I plan to raise a healthy family. If I ever meet a dude who would want to adopt a Filipino boy with me. I mean uh... Not to fuck up your program, but you would do better eating smaller meals more often. Easier for the body to digest than just 1 giant meal. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 5:09pm - Archaeon ""] Martins has grass fed man boobs. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 6:26pm - martins ""] largefreakatzero said: martins said:I don't spend more than about 70 dollars a week on food. Usually closer to 50. I also only eat once a day so that cuts on costs too. Eggs + meat + broccoli + brussel sprouts is my favorite dinner. And yes, I plan to raise a healthy family. If I ever meet a dude who would want to adopt a Filipino boy with me. I mean uh... Not to fuck up your program, but you would do better eating smaller meals more often. Easier for the body to digest than just 1 giant meal. Yeah, that's a common misconception. You're talking about the thermogenic effect of food which says that a certain amount of calories gets converted to a certain amount of energy. If a person were to consume 3000 calories over the course of 6 meals they would create the same amount of energy as a person who consumed 3000 calories at one meal. The problem becomes that 6-mealer is not letting the energy from the previous meal be depleted and is actually losing energy. This is aside from the fact that fasting puts your body in a more alert state. I almost never feel tired during the day anymore because of it. Nevermind that by the end of the day, I'm deep into ketosis, burning purely stored fat for fuel. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 6:26pm - martins ""] Archaeon said:Martins has grass fed man boobs. Says the man whose dick I've touched and who hasn't seen me since the summer. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 6:35pm - arilliusbm ""] This thread just keeps getting more gay by the post. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 6:40pm - martins ""] True that. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 6:52pm - xanonymousx ""] i ran into grant on chatroulette it was hot. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 7:20pm - Archaeon ""] Martins how gay was that picture carlos tagged us in? |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 7:30pm - martins ""] So gay. That girl looks like Lydia. Did you meet/meat Lydia? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 7:59pm - ArilliusBM ""] A girl named Lydia? I'm assuming she in 90 years old. If she's not 90, then she should be. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 8:05pm - martins ""] she's like 18 or 19 or something. Deal with it. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 8:07pm - Archaeon ""] Nope, but I know someone who is going to school with her from AHS. weird story. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 8:07pm - martins ""] get smushed |
| ______________________________ [Feb 8,2010 8:24pm - Hoser ""] the_reverend said:bzzzt. That doesn't matter since you can feed 15 people off the land to feed one on chicken. What about all of the animals that your harvests kill? Moles, voles, rabbits, bird species...all collateral damage to your gay diet. AND, vital to our eco-system, I might add. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 8:30pm - martins ""] Don't forget the complete razing of the land where wildlife would have thrived. I'm sure even Hoser would get some enjoyment out of reading The Vegetarian Myth. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 8:48pm - Doomkid ""] To be fair, the feed required to raise livestock needs to come from those same grain farms that killed all the moles and associated wildlife. Unfortunately, usually more humans = bad for biodiversity no matter how you cut it. We need less of us or somewhere else to put us. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:05pm - the_reverend ""] so.... killing 15x more of those voles is better? I want to read a book call the vagina myth. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:08pm - martins ""] Doomkid said:To be fair, the feed required to raise livestock needs to come from those same grain farms that killed all the moles and associated wildlife. Unfortunately, usually more humans = bad for biodiversity no matter how you cut it. We need less of us or somewhere else to put us. Oh of course. In general, our food industry is royally fucked up. Like I said a few times already today. Grass fed wins. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:25pm - the_reverend ""] so martins then eat grass. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:27pm - arilliusbm ""] There are more things than our food industry that is fucked up. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:31pm - martins ""] I never said it was the only thing that's fucked up but it's definitely the one that hits closest to home. Anyone who buys mass produced food and eats it is directly affected - first person involvement. Unless of course you feel your every day civil liberties being suppressed. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:39pm - Archaeon ""] Read Animal Liberation. Or you're not a pussy. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:45pm - martins ""] Vegetarian agendas are fucked up. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:57pm - Archaeon ""] Peter Singer's agenda makes perfect sense to me and is the opposite of fuck up. NIGGER. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 9:59pm - arilliusbm ""] I'm currently eating microwavable meat from walmart and I can still have boners. Oh no, that makes me evil. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 10:00pm - martins ""] Archaeon said:Peter Singer's agenda makes perfect sense to me and is the opposite of fuck up. NIGGER. Oh well, I only care because it's you and we used to suck Composted's dick together. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 8,2010 11:29pm - Conservationist ""] I can walk to a place that'll sell me grain-fed, 100% organic local beef at $5-7 a pound. And it is worth. Tastes at least twice as good as the $4/lb supermarket beef. Eating meat isn't the problem. TOO MANY PEOPLE is. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 9,2010 8:13am - the_reverend ""] soylent green |